Fire Comity and vls

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

Oh another thing, like @Comity; just said he hosted it for 4 hours, that wouldn't even be allowed at Habbox as we have to 'vary our events' and we'd probably be pushing it at hosting it for 2 hours.

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Wouldn't be an issue if multiple events at one time were allowed. Still not seen an argument against that other than "BUT SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE A CRAP EVENT" in which case they shouldn't be staff :P

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Originally Posted by Kardan

I'm going to go ahead and disagree here. When I mean a Guest Manager, I don't mean someone to review stuff and write feedback reports, I mean someone to come in and change the way the department runs. So not offering changes, but doing changes. Then after a week, everyone reviews the changes and they see if anything should be kept to improve how the department runs in the future. When the AGM stands in, I'm pretty sure the majority of the time no rule changes are made.

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Not sure how this arose butttt if people have ideas that they'd like to implement if they were a manager then surely they can make feedback threads and gain managerial support through the normal routes rather than having constant disruption to departments and making manager roles pointless. Ideas can be tested without allowing unproven randoms take charge and change the entire structure of a department :P

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Originally Posted by Kardan

But the wasted time is moot when it is literally 10 seconds of time.

And we have suggest ideas thread all the time in the feedback forum :P

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Takes more than 10 seconds to remove the rule from the handbook and any other threads, PM all staff and or create a thread informing of rule changes, get that approved by GMs which I assume is still the rule when you want to change major things in a department and maybe inform the community.

And constantly changing rules/regulations is the most popular reason I heard why people resign from Habbox to start with...

Not to mention the fact it takes more than a week for someone to adjust to being manager and noone ever goes into management and starts changing things up before they understand what the role truly entails (which I guarantee is more than most people here would think)

No, in a lot of staff forums we have specific threads, where people who directly see what's going on and are involved in it can comment on how the department is run, rather than some outsiders who, quite frankly, don't understand.

I think there is merit to your idea though, although I would say it wouldn't be official, more... hypothetical: IF you were manager what rule would you change, what would you add to the dept etc (I know I had this question in my RV app and I really liked it!!)

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

Wouldn't be an issue if multiple events at one time were allowed. Still not seen an argument against that other than "BUT SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE A CRAP EVENT" in which case they shouldn't be staff :P



Not sure how this arose butttt if people have ideas that they'd like to implement if they were a manager then surely they can make feedback threads and gain managerial support through the normal routes rather than having constant disruption to departments and making manager roles pointless. Ideas can be tested without allowing unproven randoms take charge and change the entire structure of a department :P

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You are right, it just seems that the large majority of suggestions are never even considered let alone tested. It was aimed more at when the manager them-self wanted to implement it (For example they wanted a one week break) to try and not undermine the whole point of the manager in the first place :P

I definitely get the impression a lot of managers are in the state of I'LL RUN MY DEPARTMENT HOW I WANT AND I DON'T WANT ANY FEEDBACK OR ANYTHING

whether that's because they think they're amazing/perfect/betterthanu or because some suggestions are actually crap i have no idea

but when you hear stories that one particular manager shot down a suggestion some people don't even bother suggesting things cos they think their suggestion will be shot down too

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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

Takes more than 10 seconds to remove the rule from the handbook and any other threads, PM all staff and or create a thread informing of rule changes, get that approved by GMs which I assume is still the rule when you want to change major things in a department and maybe inform the community.

And constantly changing rules/regulations is the most popular reason I heard why people resign from Habbox to start with...

Not to mention the fact it takes more than a week for someone to adjust to being manager and noone ever goes into management and starts changing things up before they understand what the role truly entails (which I guarantee is more than most people here would think)

No, in a lot of staff forums we have specific threads, where people who directly see what's going on and are involved in it can comment on how the department is run, rather than some outsiders who, quite frankly, don't understand.

I think there is merit to your idea though, although I would say it wouldn't be official, more... hypothetical: IF you were manager what rule would you change, what would you add to the dept etc (I know I had this question in my RV app and I really liked it!!)

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It of course would take more than 10 seconds to make the changes, but I was referring to reverting the changes back to how they were before, which is what you said :P

And all the points you make are really the whole points of the idea. Sometimes it takes an outsider to see what is going wrong, rather than people that have been used to the same way of life for a while.

Whilst I see the merits in it being hypothetical, that's really the whole point of it not being hypothetical. People can easily ask 'What would you change?', but the reality in seeing the changes made is that people can actually see how things are under the changes.

It's all good to say 'Well, I'd get rid of the boring games'... But what would actually happen if we did get rid of the boring games for a week? At least we'd know once and for all whether it's a good idea or not based on player numbers/staff hosting numbers.

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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

I definitely get the impression a lot of managers are in the state of I'LL RUN MY DEPARTMENT HOW I WANT AND I DON'T WANT ANY FEEDBACK OR ANYTHING

whether that's because they think they're amazing/perfect/betterthanu or because some suggestions are actually crap i have no idea

but when you hear stories that one particular manager shot down a suggestion some people don't even bother suggesting things cos they think their suggestion will be shot down too

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This is my point of it all really. If you had a guest manager for a week that had opposite views/ideas, you'd at least get a chance to see the other side of things :P

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Originally Posted by Kardan

It of course would take more than 10 seconds to make the changes, but I was referring to reverting the changes back to how they were before, which is what you said :P

And all the points you make are really the whole points of the idea. Sometimes it takes an outsider to see what is going wrong, rather than people that have been used to the same way of life for a while.

Whilst I see the merits in it being hypothetical, that's really the whole point of it not being hypothetical. People can easily ask 'What would you change?', but the reality in seeing the changes made is that people can actually see how things are under the changes.

It's all good to say 'Well, I'd get rid of the boring games'... But what would actually happen if we did get rid of the boring games for a week? At least we'd know once and for all whether it's a good idea or not based on player numbers/staff hosting numbers.

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This is my point of it all really. If you had a guest manager for a week that had opposite views/ideas, you'd at least get a chance to see the other side of things :P

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I'm about to sleep and fed up of this never ending cyclical argument so all I'm gonna say is

It is not possible to be a proper manager for a week, hypotheticals is the only way to go

Outsiders may not understand what happen in the department (eg people saying content or graphics should be shut)

Implementing then almost immediately reverting them is a waste of everyone's time, ideas should be put to managers and staff before being implemented


And finally;

ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO DO GOOD THINGS DONT MAKE THEIR LIVES HARDER


on phone xx

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*do good things or offer advice, good or bad


on phone xx

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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

I'm about to sleep and fed up of this never ending cyclical argument so all I'm gonna say is

It is not possible to be a proper manager for a week, hypotheticals is the only way to go

Outsiders may not understand what happen in the department (eg people saying content or graphics should be shut)

Implementing then almost immediately reverting them is a waste of everyone's time, ideas should be put to managers and staff before being implemented


And finally;

ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO DO GOOD THINGS DONT MAKE THEIR LIVES HARDER


on phone xx

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*do good things or offer advice, good or bad


on phone xx

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Whilst I agree with you that it won't ever get implemented, I think hypotheticals are extremely ineffective. The majority of people will just not change anything and carry on with the way things are...

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Originally Posted by Kardan

Whilst I agree with you that it won't ever get implemented, I think hypotheticals are extremely ineffective. The majority of people will just not change anything and carry on with the way things are...

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The way a lot of it is at the moment management don't change anything because they're not given suggestions. Had the same thing as News manager (well, asst mainly) - people moaned it wasn't good but didn't give us feedback, when we HAD a suggestion we implemented it and it was good! There just needs to be an official method of suggesting management changes people aren't afraid to use - i'd suggest anonymity - which managers could bounce ideas off

ok really that was my final post now niiiight

swear I haven't seen anything except dont roll a 6/bingo/(insert dice/mocha/fridge game here)

SO THESE EVENTS ARE FRESH AND NICE

I didn't know that they were told to remove the Habbox tag, well that's just stupid. Would you tell trade city or whatever room sponsors Habbox to remove the tag because its getting more visitors than hxhd?

Also I think 650c (sorry I can't work out how to tag on tapatalk) should get credit for his different events with the cannons, they're good fun too but just need to be more popular, check them out!!!!