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Okay so thats true light speed and all that jive...So why do we only have theories? Why hasn't someone just gone.. Ooo look I can see how the universe was created by looking through my telescope... and then show it to everyone???? Answer me that then?Quote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
Becuse im perfectly capable of looking at a car, or even driveing one without knowing how it works, how all the componets fit together, the mechanics of stearing, gears, the engine etc "/Quote:
Originally Posted by Punky
We form a theary based on the evidance, we test it, if its right we test it more, if its wrong, we adapt it and test it again, so we always slowly get towards the truth.
A scientific theary is not the same as a normal theary "/
I'll seriously gunna leave this now lol, i cant be bothered with this ne more.
Technicaly speaking? would god actaly have eyes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Punky
They may not be real to you, but to whoever sees them they are very real. Who's to say that "tricks of the mind" are not actually alterations to reality? Belief is a big thing that can alter perception of reality - any hypnotist can tell you that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
Congratulations on completely missing my point. Omnipotency means that you can do anything, no matter how many paradoxes it crosses, no matter how much logic it craps on. There's no way to imagine a 3-sided square, like you said, because we'd know it to be a triangle, but omnipotency would allow such a thing to still be a square. It's beyond understanding, beyond anything that you or I could possibly be taught. Omnipotency therefore is an argument which cannot be overcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
The Bible is supposedly the word of God, written by prophets who scribed God's message. Whether you believe that or not is irrelevent, the point is that the Bible clearly states that a man "laying" with another man is a sin. I really couldn't care less who agrees with that or not, I personally don't care who you do or where you stick it, but trying to argue that the Bible doesn't say something when it does is really quite pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
Yes it does, as I stated above. Also, you keep referring to this point about selling your daughter into slavery, just because something isn't socially acceptable now doesn't mean that it doesn't count as religious text any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
I know but someones perseption of reality is based on relaity, not the other way around, reality is unchanged.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Becuse you belive somthing doesnt mean that thing is real, only your quite deluded...
No it doesnt, it means all powerful...Quote:
Congratulations on completely missing my point. Omnipotency means that you can do anything, no matter how many paradoxes it crosses, no matter how much logic it craps on.
Square is a consept, The name square can be altered, the consept cant. its a priori. You can clame its so, but it can never be so, since the consept is relative to us, and hence are own understandings of the consept are what assign it the word by which it is refered, so god could make it so we call 3 sided shapes sqaures, but he could never make a 3 sided shape meet the consept of a square, he could make people belive it did, but it still would not.Quote:
There's no way to imagine a 3-sided square, like you said, because we'd know it to be a triangle, but omnipotency would allow such a thing to still be a square.
Actaly thats free choise, and its quite easy overcome, as ive shown 3 times now...Quote:
It's beyond understanding, beyond anything that you or I could possibly be taught. Omnipotency therefore is an argument which cannot be overcome.
God wrote 10 commandments, not the bible.Quote:
The Bible is supposedly the word of God, written by prophets who scribed God's message. Whether you believe that or not is irrelevent, the point is that the Bible clearly states that a man "laying" with another man is a sin. I really couldn't care less who agrees with that or not, I personally don't care who you do or where you stick it, but trying to argue that the Bible doesn't say something when it does is really quite pointless.
And it doesnt cleary state that? ainchent hebrew is highly context sencetive most words can be read in many many diffent ways. makeing the entire text highly ambuguios. And that still has nothing to do with homosexualty, thats about haveing sex.. or at least thats how its commonly interpited.
The same part also cleary says your going to hell if you miss your weekly animal sacrivise, or if you fail to stone crimals to death, as well as alot of helpful advice on selling slaves, or your daughter for that matter...
So you support selling children as slaves? o.0 Even though the new testiment contrasdictis this compleaty...Quote:
Yes it does, as I stated above. Also, you keep referring to this point about selling your daughter into slavery, just because something isn't socially acceptable now doesn't mean that it doesn't count as religious text any more.
If you think slavery is accepatble behavior i worry for you...
why have there been loads of posts about god and sins recntly and yes i think it is seen as a sin
God is more or less something that cannot be overcome. Because God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent he can basically defy anything. He created logic (or more so that logic is a result of his creation) therefore he can defy logic.
Sin is somthing objectionable by a deity, if god dont exist, Sins dont ether "/Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightrose
plus most the anti gay stuff in the bible is umbiguos, out of context and crap "/
Could god make it so you had never existed. Since your existing now thats immposible, since althogh he can make you stop existing, you have existed for this time, so dispite any power its compleaty immposible for it to be so that you had never existed "/ it may be as if you had never existed, but god would know you had by his action meaning the fact could not be changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgin Mary
Thats rather an irrelevant question,you could equally say 'Why have their been so many Music posts'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightrose