vegetarian?

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Originally Posted by -=Jack.B=-

meats the nicest type of food in the world

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I'd have to disagree= pizza= heaven :D

Ive been vegetarian for over 10 years, I cant even remember what meat tastes like. There is a hell of alot less fat genrally in vegetables than meat so we are genrally lighter. If your really like the taste of meat that much you could eat quorn I hate the stuff but it tastes like meat but its much healthier.

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Originally Posted by Ozzie

Ive been vegetarian for over 10 years, I cant even remember what meat tastes like. There is a hell of alot less fat genrally in vegetables than meat so we are genrally lighter. If your really like the taste of meat that much you could eat quorn I hate the stuff but it tastes like meat but its much healthier.

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Yeah- quorn has the texture of meat, I had it once and thought i was eating real chicken but *shrugs*

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Originally Posted by glitterbomb

simple thread [: are you a vegetarian & how long have you been one?
i've been a vegetarian since birth, ahar. so nearly 17 years. [:

how about you?

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Since Birth =) so 18


Tis great being veggie. get great college nicknames like veg.

Evil Mars stealing my choclate!

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Originally Posted by Lycan

Since Birth =) so 18


Tis great being veggie. get great college nicknames like veg.

Evil Mars stealing my choclate!

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No stealing MY chocolate! :P

R.I.P Maltesers and Galaxy :|

wait wait wait, YOUR? choclate.


PFft

I get to loose Marsbars, Twix, Revels, Planets (which i just started to love)

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

Ah man.. *recovers from rolling on the floor laughing* Thanks for giving me a laugh gomme. Too tired to give a quote to quote answer but I'll give you some "facts" about me eating vegetables: I have chronic fatigue syndrome/m.e= ate meat for 2 years of it and felt very bad, although cfs/m.e goes up and down once I started eating vegetables my m.e improved (I've gone back to guitar lessons/can concentrate better doing work etc) and i've been healthier immunity wise- only had one flu in a year.

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And you decide to tell me now about your illness after our argument? I think you're the fool who should be considered the laughing stock. My argument is against vegetarians who do not have any problems with them other than the delusion of thinking meat is bad for them and it is very VERY unhealthy. Also, loads of people don't catch flu for your information, it is why getting the fly vaccination is very pointless among the majority of people. The only people who need it are people with low immune e.g. me and the elderly "/ Another fact, you over-read. This maybe mean, but I think you using your illness in an argument is just an attempt for a sympathy and has made you deluded.

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

Can I ask what you think of the enviromental aspects of eating meat also?

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That is barely touches the environment? Eating beef = less cows = less CO2. Eating vegetables = more CO2 = environment issues are the only factors I can think of. Also, the argument is about vegetarianism, not with environmentalism.

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

Oh and here you take my words out of context:
I don't believe meat is bad except if taking in excess which is what alot of the western countries are doing- something like 2/3x the amount recommended=thus obescity/heart problems etc.

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You do the same for my words too "/ Besides, 2/3x the recommended amount must be over-exaggerated, as that would be about 90z of beef in comparison, which is a hell of alot "/ The argument you are having is again, which I keep blooming mentioning and you keep over-looking, is what you cook the meat in. Jesus.

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

Plus the whole factory farming: where pigs are sometimes fed their own species either through canabilism or it being mixed with-in their foods which can spread disease such as mad cow/bird flu/e-coli etc.

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They haven't done this in years, it got banned I think 3 years ago and is illegal I believe. Besides, if this is true, there would only be a very small amount of it in meat products, because of this ruling.

EDIT: Why are you pointing out American facts when you and I are British? Keep to your own nation, because I could argue about vegetables and fruit made in other countries which could be worse "/

Like insects traveling in bananas from Africa wiping out other insects like bees etc.

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

I respect your opinions to eat meat (obviously you have no respect for others):

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I don't have respect for people who think eating meast is bad/unhealthy like you. Because you are the minority with your illness meaning the remainder of vegetarians are either deluded or simply don't like meat.

My cousin is a vegetarian, and I respect her because she has admitted she doesn't like meat and it makers her ill. Granted vegetables are making her look a bit chubby, but I think she has always been like that.

Here is a phrase for you to learn for homework:

"Don't make up crap."

Because you seem to do this alot, and when I prove you wrong (which I have), you later note that you have a reason to eat more (a good one, which I might add).

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

I just think the world would be alot better if we didn't eat meat OR didn't eat it at the amount we do now- it'd reduce water pollution from the livestock/global warming from the pollution from mainly sheep/cows, obescity, e-coli, clogged colon, etc etc.

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Why would it be a better place? You do realise cows pump out alot of CO2? Again, you make up rubbish "/ And you clogged colon rubbish, is rubbish yet again as I proved with my beef example (which is/was the "unhealthy" meat) that it has very little fat in which can do the body harm and again, I repeat, your argument revolves around what the meat is cooked in, not what the meat has in.

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

Also you keep contradicting yourself: you keep saying that vegetarians are sickly and weak, then you go on to say that they get fat easier... ^_^

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Pick out the contradiction please? You can be:

Fat and weak. Weak and sickly. Fat and healthy (as in, don't get ill). Healthy and weak etc etc.

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

Anyway, I was going to reply but your replies were so funny I thought I shoud commend you on giving me a laugh.

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Laughing, the first sign of someone losing an argument. I bet you weren't actually laughing, being on this forum for this amount of time, I have come to know that loads of people use the excuse of laughing, to cover up posting replies to arguments, because they simply cannot find a problem with them and therefore over look them, like you have done so much in this argument, and I don't find it funny "/ I find it quite sad "/

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

You do know you can just get as many proteins from vegetables right? Also vegetables are lower in saturated fats (way lower) and high in fiber aswell as vitamins, hmmm ..

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Urrrgh, you are very annoying to argue with, because you don't listen/read or remember anything in the argument.

Actually, you can't unless you eat a specific type of vegetable which has high protein. Other vegetables/fruit you have to guzzle down to get the same amounts.

Also, saturated fats aren't a problem in meat, as I used in the example, the recommended amount of saturated fats is about 20g, and in meat, you get about 1 or 2g maximum, in about 2ozs. "Don't make up crap."

Also, as I was going to state, but got lost in your stupid saturated fat argument, you seem to think if you eat meat, you only eat meat. Loads of people eat a variety of meat, vegetables and fruit. Does bread ring a bell? How about wholemeal? That has alot of fibre in and loads of people eat it, strangely enough people who eat meat too. "/

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

Oh and one last note:
This woman must be very ill and sickly being a vegetarian... right?

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/-china...26/1610597.htm

(also in the guinness world records)

You see that's not hear say/not opinion it's fact.

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Wow, you actually post something which is actually worth something!

But alas, you post information which is outside of this country, again "/ In china, they have different eating habits and way of life than here in Britain. So your "proof" isn't exactly a solid ground to claim knowledge on, because you are discussing around the grounds of another culture different to our own "/

Here are 2 ladies, Charlotte Hughes and Jessie Nicholls, they lived over 100 in the UK, and they apparently had a varied diet, of which included meat "/

At least my knowledge, facts and proof revolve around our culture :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Ozzie

Ive been vegetarian for over 10 years, I cant even remember what meat tastes like. There is a hell of alot less fat genrally in vegetables than meat so we are genrally lighter. If your really like the taste of meat that much you could eat quorn I hate the stuff but it tastes like meat but its much healthier.

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Re-read what you wrote. You can't remember what meat tastes like yet you suggest quorn because it tastes like meat?

Also, it doesn't. It is tasteless, crunchy and gave me violent stomach pains. Why eat genetically modified fungus?

na am not a vegetarian

Gomme , I really can't be bothered to waste energy on you for a long reply, because you'll say the same thing over again just arranged differently >_>

But anyway:

I didn't see the need to mention I was ill before? But you was insinuating that a vegetarian diet was unhealthy- it's proved the complete opposite for me thankyou very much.

"Urrrgh, you are very annoying to argue with, because you don't listen/read or remember anything in the argument."

Actually I read your views and some I have agreed with, I think the above could be said for you- I give you sufficicient evidence but you've given pathetic arguments such as "well they're from another country LOL so this is invalid", you seem to be showing slight racism..

You do know that the actual meat can harm you right? You keep revolving around what the meat is cooked in- yes that does have negatives, but it was the actual MEAT i was talking about.

You also keep saying that because cows are polluting that's why we eat them, exscuse me.. are you that thick? Factory farms keep processing animals every year for food- thus they give out tons of c02/methane/waste, if we had an average cow population that wasn't being overprocessed then they'd be giving off a hell of alot less..

You do know that the pollution caused by cows and sheep are greater than car/lorry pollution combined? It was in a report by the UN.


Here is a phrase for you to learn for homework:

"Don't make up crap."

"Because you seem to do this alot, and when I prove you wrong (which I have), you later note that you have a reason to eat more (a good one, which I might add)."

I don't think you've proven me wrong yet.. it's just self opinionated, none is actual facts, I've given you a few links, shown you reports to disprove that vegetarianism is unhealthy, given you a link to a 120 year old woman who lived on a vegetarian diet (yes she comes from another country- but still lives a vegetarian lifestyle- FROM BIRTH which I may add)

I also as I've said above, saw no reason to say about my illness, I don't exactly like spouting off, in itself is considerable evidence that eating vegetables has made me feel healthier- which it has.

I see you've missed my part when I said I didn't want to have a pointless conversation anymore?

You're basing most of your argument on self-made "facts" *cough* and self-opinions, a vegetarian lifestyle IS healthy, and CAN give health benefits.

End of.

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

Gomme , I really can't be bothered to waste energy on you for a long reply, because you'll say the same thing over again just arranged differently >_>

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Because you fail to get it into your skull :rolleyes:

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I didn't see the need to mention I was ill before? But you was insinuating that a vegetarian diet was unhealthy- it's proved the complete opposite for me thankyou very much.

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Maybe because your illness requires you to not eat meat and that you have probably adapted to eat non-meat products. Besides, we could get into the stats with your body weight, age etc.

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"Urrrgh, you are very annoying to argue with, because you don't listen/read or remember anything in the argument."

Actually I read your views and some I have agreed with, I think the above could be said for you- I give you sufficicient evidence but you've given pathetic arguments such as "well they're from another country LOL so this is invalid", you seem to be showing slight racism..

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Your "sufficient evidence" is from another country. IF it was in this country, maybe I would bother reading it. Different countries report different statistics.

Also, race isn't vegetarianism. Stay with the argument.

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You do know that the actual meat can harm you right? You keep revolving around what the meat is cooked in- yes that does have negatives, but it was the actual MEAT i was talking about.

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It can't be, because you are saying it is full of fat, when in reality it isn't. And how can it harm you? Again, you never mention with fact or anything in this case "/

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You also keep saying that because cows are polluting that's why we eat them, exscuse me.. are you that thick? Factory farms keep processing animals every year for food- thus they give out tons of c02/methane/waste, if we had an average cow population that wasn't being overprocessed then they'd be giving off a hell of alot less..

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How do you know it is over processed? The meat that isn't eaten by humans is donated to Zoos and Bird/Owl Sanctuaries FACT, because my brother has worked for the nearby Zoo and Owl Sanctuary which gets meat:

Stanway Sainsbury's.
Marks Tey The Food Company.
Colchester Sainbury's.
Tiptree Co op

And hundreds of shops in Colchester.

Stonham Owl Sanctuary gets meat from local farms who give them chicks, mice, rats pheasant etc etc. And guess what, I am getting these facts from the UNITED KINGDOM, not from CHINA or the US.

You are probably revolving your argument around the US again for your idea of over-processed meat. Let them deal with their problems, while we deal with ours and our over-processed meat is alot less than over their in the US, and we deal with over-processed meat alot easier.

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You do know that the pollution caused by cows and sheep are greater than car/lorry pollution combined? It was in a report by the UN.

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Way to point out the obvious. And again, you are getting stats that do not 100% revolve around the UK.

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Here is a phrase for you to learn for homework:

"Don't make up crap."

"Because you seem to do this alot, and when I prove you wrong (which I have), you later note that you have a reason to eat more (a good one, which I might add)."

I don't think you've proven me wrong yet.. it's just self opinionated, none is actual facts, I've given you a few links, shown you reports to disprove that vegetarianism is unhealthy, given you a link to a 120 year old woman who lived on a vegetarian diet (yes she comes from another country- but still lives a vegetarian lifestyle- FROM BIRTH which I may add)

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I have proved you wrong with:

Meat being unhealthy - Your argument is with the eating habits of people, not the meat itself. You seem to hink large amounts of cooking oil is found in meat, when it is actually found in bottles for around a pound in Tescos.

My arguments are not self-opinionated, fool. I get my facts from websites and books that are UK based. Your evidence comes from other countries, where eating habits are different and in some way people way of digesting food and habits around and out of eating are different in other countries.

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I also as I've said above, saw no reason to say about my illness, I don't exactly like spouting off, in itself is considerable evidence that eating vegetables has made me feel healthier- which it has.

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So? You are a bit different to any other vegetarian. You can't eat meat, which I understand and it has made you healthy. BUT that doesn't mean the same for other vegetarians.

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You're basing most of your argument on self-made "facts" *cough* and self-opinions, a vegetarian lifestyle IS healthy, and CAN give health benefits.

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Most of my argument is on real facts and only a minor part of it is opinion. Stop trying to think you are winning by mentally deluding yourself into actually believing I am making it up.

And what I find extremely annoying is that you miss out most of my points because you are too "chicken" to even bother finding answer, because you simply can't. You have not once posted proper facts that are linked to the UK. Your proof comes from other countries which are different and VERY different in most cases, but because it is the only way you can fight back, you actually think it reflects the lifestyles of the UK.

Arguing with you is pointless, because you're too stubborn to believe the proper facts. Beef has little fats in, but you think it doesn't. You think vegetables digest quicker than meat, but it doesn't. We're more meant to eat meat, because our digestive tracks and even our teeth suggest that we do. It takes longer for celery to get digest and you can even look for further proof with something like eating grass, which can kill you, because it is extremely hard to digest.