REPUTATION OR LIKE SYSTEM

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Originally Posted by wixard

you kardan and fj are the only ones actually posting, i don't think others would mind if it got converted to a like system which would benefit EVERYONE.

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3 people with thought-out arguments is always better than 50 spouting nonsense. Every single point that claims to be a benefit of the like system has been shot down. Regardless, the people who want things to change all want different changes so 3 people with the same idea is probably a majority tbh

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Originally Posted by buttons

and my last point was that, right now say i gave someone 2 rep a month so 100 rep a month, I could get them up 500 points in 5 month. But if my rep was then scaled down to 20, 2 reps a month would be 60 so they'd get 320 despite the fact before that they'd get 500. A new member would only get my 320 whereas those before the rep scaled down would have a higher advantage because they were getting 50 points at a time from me... SO therefore it'd be unfair on new members. I don't like points and rep power tbh, I think we should be equal and have an indicator as to how often our posts are liked but that's just me. Obviously it's not gonna change but I'm giving my opinion,

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What you're saying is totally contradictory, you start by saying how scaling down rep would be unfair (which is true and one of the main reasons a like system would be a joke) but then you say everyone should have equal powers which means a mass scaling down of everyone. Which do you actually want :P

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Originally Posted by sex

You don't even need to show how many likes each person has? Its just for the postbit to show who liked each post etc.

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If that's all you're after then all that needs to be done is change the way that rep is displayed on posts rather than scrap the entire thing and bring in a whole new system. Got no problem with that being done, but other people are looking for bigger changes which make no sense at all

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Originally Posted by sex

Yes tom isn't like by many but he is still liked by a lot of people here regardless of what he says.

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What really lol who



Also what's this about Scott -repping me for Jen? Just looked through all my rep and he has never in the history of Habbox -repped me even though we're obv not exactly bum chums so...

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

What you're saying is totally contradictory, you start by saying how scaling down rep would be unfair (which is true and one of the main reasons a like system would be a joke) but then you say everyone should have equal powers which means a mass scaling down of everyone. Which do you actually want :P






Also what's this about Scott -repping me for Jen? Just looked through all my rep and he has never in the history of Habbox -repped me even though we're obv not exactly bum chums so...

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i only point out about scaling because it was one of options in poll? (By that I thought it meant make it harder to go up rep power) I want like system with no rep points or power, just individual likes, including the rep you already got shown. does that make sense? only the number of reps uve been given would be shown rather than the amount of points but tbh we aren't going to get it, just nice to hear two sides of story espec for people who don't know about like system, I'm not forcing anyone to say they want a like system or w.e just saying why I think itd be be nice

And THANK U only time ive asked scott to rep someone was crazylemurs coz everyone was -repping him n I felt bad for him so either mistaking me for someone else or something completely diff

is it poss to show individual rep under rep power at least seein as nt gna get like system

poops all over thread

Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

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Originally Posted by buttons

i only point out about scaling because it was one of options in poll? (By that I thought it meant make it harder to go up rep power) I want like system with no rep points or power, just individual likes, including the rep you already got shown. does that make sense? only the number of reps uve been given would be shown rather than the amount of points but tbh we aren't going to get it, just nice to hear two sides of story espec for people who don't know about like system, I'm not forcing anyone to say they want a like system or w.e just saying why I think itd be be nice

And THANK U only time ive asked scott to rep someone was crazylemurs coz everyone was -repping him n I felt bad for him so either mistaking me for someone else or something completely diff

is it poss to show individual rep under rep power at least seein as nt gna get like system

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Oh I seeeeeee and yeah if that could be done it might be a nice compromise, be like Rep Power: 34 (812) or something idk how many reps 34 power would be really but yeah. The system must know the numbers already somewhere since we have the whole rep history on our userCP

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Originally Posted by thms

poops all over thread

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Bit like pooing on a mountain of poo at this point tbh

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Originally Posted by wixard

either way it's being used as an example of why the rep system is outdated and can be abused

i don't really care that much the only reason I posted again was because you were being a completely moronic **** in your posts Scott, with no respect for anyone else so I decided to step in. FYI, there are more of us actively posting in the thread for the like system than against

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oh my god are you blind or just plain ignorant? we've listed multiple reasons for it to be beneficial yet you keep focusing on one and pretending we've mentioned nothing else. also warping it into some bizarre reason we never said like 'less hassle for moderators' no... we never said that.

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Agreed.. the same people keep asking to see benefits which I've already listed twice and I'm sure pthers have too!

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Originally Posted by buttons

I want like system with the amount of reps u have converted into likes, surely the amount of your posts that have been liked is more important than the amount of points you've been given seeing as power is unequal. just seems like people want rep because they get lots of power n points even if they haven't actually had that much individual likes so rep system isn't really fair. yes with likes u can just like all ur friends posts but u can do that with rep already, at least with like it'll be more obvious if they're doing it to get their friends likes up (which would be pointless as it goes up 1 point at a time) soz if this doesn't make sense im still drunk, I think both system have their flaws but likes is obviously fairer as not one person has more power over another

but appaz only 13 of us or so want that so doubt it'll happen, just think like system is more modern and fair

o n another point about rep being unfair is fact it's changed so much times that someone could get 50 points from me then if my rep gets lowered to 20 or so then they only get 20 next time, makes it unfair for new members because some people here have been getting 50 in the past but they can only get 20.. So would be harder for them TO CAtch up..

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In reply to the bold; it definitely is.
As for being unfair for new members, it'd actually be fairer because rep power would be capped making it possible for new users to actually reach the highest status. The same way new users can reach the highest level of the user ranks (Habbox God) even if it would take a while.

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Originally Posted by scottish

Power isn't meant to be equal, someone who's been here for 8 years and posted constructively/positively for those years should have more power/points to give than someone who's been here 2 months with 100 posts..

You can't infinitely rep with the current system as you have a wait period and a rep other user period (unless that's changed), you have to wait a week and rep 10-20 other people before you can rep the same person again. So at very least you're waiting the cooldown period (1 week?) so you can give what 51 rep in a week, with the like system you can give that in a day..

With rep no one person has 'power' over another, they have different rep power yes but not one person has the max power and no-one else near..



I don't get your last point, if someones rep is 50 then the system changes to reduce it to 20 they now get 20? Well obviously it's not going to go through every rep given and reduce the points.. but yeah the rep power isn't an issue, it's easier for people to gain rep points now than it was before due to rep inflation if you wish to name it that, before we were getting what 5-15 points per rep, now you're getting 20-70? It's a lot easier to get points now than it was previously, so stating that as a flaw with the current system as users have a hard time catching up is just utter crap.

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People are capable of reading the forums without being instructed to, I've never mentioned the forum to her, as you can see from her post she noticed it and told me lol only reason I came on the forum to reply..

Okay then why am I wasting my time if it's definitely not changing then, back to TTT.

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So are you claiming it's fair that some users might have 75x the rep power of some other users? If a user -reps a user with their 1 rep power and the person they -repped had a 75 rep power and -reps them back.. is that fair because 'Power isn't meant to be equal' and they should have more power?

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Originally Posted by buttons

but your rep points and power isn't an indication of how constructively you've posted because you can give your friends rep for no reason, not for constructive posts. people say they've earned rep when i know ive given them like 400 or so of their points just because i wanted to comment something to them which may not even be relevant to that post or even the forum... i rep people to comment on a post they've written instead of posting because id be off topic so rly im giving them rep for nothing.

I don't believe people should have power to show they're well liked or whatever because it's not always the case, plus your like meter will show how popular your posts are? n let's be honest, the amount of power you get for your time here and posts you've made isn't that much. rep power isn't fair, just coz ive got lots of rep points doesn't mean ive got more likeable posts than a person with smaller rep points, they might have more individual reps than i do, it's just that they've been given rep by people with less power than me. plus the fact u have to spread means they might miss out getting rep because someone needs to spread n thus they get less rep than they deserve.

also funny how ppl are constantly complaining about the rep system, how -reps get removed, the system gets abused, u can't -rep ur full points etc but once your rep power and points are in jeopardy everyone is keen to save the rep system lol.

And ur point with the spreading to rep, isn't that a negative? shouldn't u be allowed to like any post u want rather than wait a week to rep pne post even tho u want to rep many posts? ive tried to rep graham twice because I liked two posts but I can't cause I already repped him last week n then ill only be able to rep one post so with like system ud get all the posts u want liked and would be better for everyone because it'd be better indication of how much people like your posts.

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Agreed with this.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

But that doesn't take away from the fact that at the moment, more people want rep to stay. And you say the like system is more modernised and user friendly. So literally because we'd have a thumbs up and down, rather than a 2 click +rep and a 3 click -rep, it's better?

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We've already listed the benefits of reforming the rep system to resemble a like system and you already know there's more benefits than less clicks :P.

Gonna go ahead and close this now, its all going in circles now anyway. Thanks for the discussion everyone (A) (A) (A)

But there is 1 thing why I like the Like system is that people doesn't give you rude - reps and pointless - reps

Many fansites I have seen has the " Like System" and everyone likes it :)

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Originally Posted by XxZammyXx

But there is 1 thing why I like the Like system is that people doesn't give you rude - reps and pointless - reps

Many fansites I have seen has the " Like System" and everyone likes it :)

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You're right, you can't give rude pointless -reps with a like system, you give rude/pointless dislikes :)

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Originally Posted by Kardan

You're right, you can't give rude pointless -reps with a like system, you give rude/pointless dislikes :)

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Having a like & dislike hmmmm

I don't know...I wouldn't mind either way to be honest.