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17-02-2008, 01:29 PM
Sharpsterz

Blame Kors For The Drop :)
18-02-2008, 12:24 AM
Okeanos

earlier a girl told me that she sold hers for 5 thrones, not sure if that is true but i decided to test it out so i put it in my shop name and what do you know? 10 minutes after im offered 150HC which is 40 hc above the habbox value

i didn't accept it, im sticking to my principles and holding out for abit more

proof though that the value is wrong

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Originally Posted by Flamedragon3

As someone has already posted, they were recently given out as a prize, and if more come out and more are in circulation, then they are most likely going to drop more in value...

When the Venomus Habbolus was 3T 25CS (around that value), Papermoon bought a second one for only 3T. It was still the same value of 3T 25CS (around that value) and someone I saw was asking for 3T 10CS, just like you are now, and they suddenly asked for 3T... and eventually wanted even less than that as it was such a struggle for them to sell.

It is not us that are the cause of the Venomus Habbolus to decrease in value, but it is the habbo public themselves, as they are willing to sell their Venomus Habbolus under the Habbox value so we correct our value to what we have seen others trade for. If you haven't seen it sell for 2T 10CS then don't expect that it hasn't.

but this is exactly my point, you are basing the value on one or two trades! the fact is theres always going to be habbos who just want a quick sale or dont care that much what they get for it but that should alter the value?

you base your values on what you see, and what you see is trades that go on in the forums, and what iv noticed from using this forum is that everyone seems to go as low as possible! if a rare is valued at 5 thrones you'd offer 3 etc.. this just forces the price down more!

ridiculous

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Originally Posted by e5

If it was only traded once where else would it be valued on? You moan about the values yet you don't need to use them? OK most people do so it's a little hard but you can push the price, habbox is only a guide which alot of people fail to see :).

habbos are led in to the belief that habbox is law, i know the site doesn't purposely give out this impression but because of she sheer numbers of users its near impossible to go against it

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Originally Posted by Jake

At the end of they day I have been offered these for lower on habbo UK. I think the habbox value is pretty accurate at the moment. You say about the birdbaths and nellies I think you're forgetting how the rare values system works. People pay what they want to regardless of the amount on the hotel. The older classic rares like dinos and bbs I don't think will ever be released but more modern rares have a higher chance of being released. The rare values system should work on demand and what people are paying for the item which is what habbox has done, end of.

nonsense!

the dj decks and gold amber are just as old as bird baths and dinos and they were released
18-02-2008, 12:32 AM
e5

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Originally Posted by @xP

I agree.

If Habbox put the Dino to 1t the whole hotel would sell them for 1t.
It's the way people work, people follow Habbox.

I've always agreed that supers should be based on a number of trades, not just one. I can gurantee some rare value reporters do make values up.
However the management will catch them out eventually.

I don't think they would, they'd just say how "corrupt" habbox is again, lol :P. I think if Habbox put it at 1t people would buy/sell for about 1t 15, so you're kinda right, Corey. The thing with supers people like to pay less for them and people like the sell them for higher amounts :D.
18-02-2008, 01:02 PM
GoldenMerc

Habbox Value:2T 10 hcs
HHGS Value:2T or 102 hcs
So overall its what values you choose but Habbox's oviously is pretty close to the correct value :]
18-02-2008, 05:23 PM
Flamedragon3

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Originally Posted by Okeanos

earlier a girl told me that she sold hers for 5 thrones, not sure if that is true but i decided to test it out so i put it in my shop name and what do you know? 10 minutes after im offered 150HC which is 40 hc above the habbox value

If she print screened the trade, or gave us enough evidence that she sold it for 5T, then it would go up in value on Habbox. But for all you know, she could be making that up, so that it goes up in value. (We get people making up trades a lot to make us change the value!)

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but this is exactly my point, you are basing the value on one or two trades! the fact is theres always going to be habbos who just want a quick sale or dont care that much what they get for it but that should alter the value?

Three actually. Also, Supers are different than Normal Rares, as there is less of them in the hotel, and maybe two or three trades (even one) of a Super rare, is enough to change the value, depending on how many are in the hotel. And there is probably about 5-15 Venomus Habbolus in the hotel?

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you base your values on what you see, and what you see is trades that go on in the forums, and what iv noticed from using this forum is that everyone seems to go as low as possible! if a rare is valued at 5 thrones you'd offer 3 etc.. this just forces the price down more!

Who said I report the trades I see in forums? I don't ever use trades that I see on the forums? I see them purely on Habbo. I saw someone buy/sell a Venomus Habbolus for under 3T in Vintus old casino (it just had Thrones on one side and a booth)
19-02-2008, 02:43 AM
Okeanos

why should 3 affect the value? logic dictates that there needs to be a majority so why are you going along with a minority?

if 10 people had sold them for that price then fair enough, but 3?!

im now refusing to take less than 280HC, its not like its a horrible rare and it isnt desired much because it is!

surely the sellers opinion on the value must be taken in to consideration?
19-02-2008, 02:53 AM
GhostFace-

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Originally Posted by @xP

I agree.

If Habbox put the Dino to 1t the whole hotel would sell them for 1t.
It's the way people work, people follow Habbox.

I've always agreed that supers should be based on a number of trades, not just one. I can gurantee some rare value reporters do make values up.
However the management will catch them out eventually.

i really want that to happen then people will find out that habbox is a guide not a law
19-02-2008, 09:58 AM
Immenseman

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Originally Posted by Okeanos

why should 3 affect the value? logic dictates that there needs to be a majority so why are you going along with a minority?

if 10 people had sold them for that price then fair enough, but 3?!

im now refusing to take less than 280HC, its not like its a horrible rare and it isnt desired much because it is!

surely the sellers opinion on the value must be taken in to consideration?

Of course three people selling will affect the value. Not many of these are sold right so when three people decide to sell up for lower than the Habbox value then of course it needs updating. We like to base our values on the most recent trade that went through on these super rares because there's so little of them and sometimes it can be weeks even months before myself or one of my team witness a trade.

If we considered what the sellers were asking for then the values would be crazy. For example someone could ask 15T for their Sky dragon but the highest bidder doesn't go past 7T. We only base our values on actual trades that have gone through. If we did it any other way there would be major loopholes which people would abuse to higher the value of rares they owned.

If more of these begin to sell at higher values then the value on Habbox will increase. Did you just expect us to ignore the trades that were happening? I don't think so. I understand it must be very annoying when you own a rare and people begin to sell for less because they're impatient and foolish but it happens and it always will.
19-02-2008, 10:00 AM
execution

Its because the plants crap my penpal.
19-02-2008, 03:11 PM
Okeanos

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Originally Posted by Immenseman

Of course three people selling will affect the value. Not many of these are sold right so when three people decide to sell up for lower than the Habbox value then of course it needs updating. We like to base our values on the most recent trade that went through on these super rares because there's so little of them and sometimes it can be weeks even months before myself or one of my team witness a trade.

If we considered what the sellers were asking for then the values would be crazy. For example someone could ask 15T for their Sky dragon but the highest bidder doesn't go past 7T. We only base our values on actual trades that have gone through. If we did it any other way there would be major loopholes which people would abuse to higher the value of rares they owned.

If more of these begin to sell at higher values then the value on Habbox will increase. Did you just expect us to ignore the trades that were happening? I don't think so. I understand it must be very annoying when you own a rare and people begin to sell for less because they're impatient and foolish but it happens and it always will.

the exact same can be said for buyers! they can and do offer ridiculously low prices

the system is floored imo

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