Should benefits be scrapped ?

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Originally Posted by jrh2002

I am all for benefits for the people who deserve them :) But instead of it being a stop gap when you are down on your luck or have health problems there are so manyyyyyyyyyy people who use benefits as their income and expect to recieve them forever. I was listening to the radio the other month and some guy said he wont come off benefits unless he gets a job on 25k a year :s because with all his benefits and housing thats what he would need to survive :s he should get any job and work his way up. A person who has worked for 6 months on the minimum wage or some guy who has been on benefits for ages. who would you employ?

I understand the EMA but it should be for ALL or nobody. How is it right that the people with jobs or higher paid jobs who pay the most in to the system have to support others and their own? We could mention free uni in scotland and free perscriptions in wales but thats another debate.

An old family friend who lost her husband and after a while couldnt look after herself at home went into a care home :o she was forced to sell the house her and her husband had worked for over the years to pay for her care :@ then there were people there who have never worked hard in their lives and claimed benefit who because they had nothing got their care paid for by the government.

This new help for ppl in trouble with their houses yet again is wrong. if me and my neighbour have identical houses and both a similar salary but i worked hard and saved every penny to keep my bills paid then great :) but if they have pissed or gambled their cash up the wall and find themselves in mortgage trouble the governement scheme will help them :s

Work hard and get penalised

Be a lazy scrounger and get rewarded

When will this country realise that rewarding people for failing in life is the wrong thing to do? And then penalising the hard working people who even though at times struggle and make a success of their lives. It gets me so angry.

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You have hit the nail on the head. I would not mine paying taxes if old people who have worked all there life got them but instead its some chav that gets them.

Its not right that a forigner that has just come to the country gets more rights to benifits then a pentioner does. What annoys me the most is how ungratefull the people who gets the benifits are. Most of them just throw it back in your face by telling you to f off when you ask them something.

EMA I get verry annoyed about i pay for these people to get £30 a week and they gone spend it one a phone. In my opinion they should get free handouts like a bus pass or some pens. This way they cant spend on crap like phones.

I suggest anyone who has ema and has some left over from school expenses what they do is donate the rest to a pentioner chaity.

To be honest I think all hard workers should try and get as much in benefits as possible :o you might as well get back as much as you can instead of everybody else having it :o this once great country is now in debt and borrowing more and more :s Maybe when you get a perscription or go to the dentist tell them your unemployed so its for free :o they dont know how many ppl are in the country lt alone who puts what on a simple form. If you recieve benefits and deserve them i dont care to much what they spend them on just dont come asking for more :P

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Originally Posted by hayd93

You have hit the nail on the head. I would not mine paying taxes if old people who have worked all there life got them but instead its some chav that gets them.
Its not right that a forigner that has just come to the country gets more rights to benifits then a pentioner does. What annoys me the most is how ungratefull the people who gets the benifits are. Most of them just throw it back in your face by telling you to f off when you ask them something.

EMA I get verry annoyed about i pay for these people to get £30 a week and they gone spend it one a phone. In my opinion they should get free handouts like a bus pass or some pens. This way they cant spend on crap like phones.

I suggest anyone who has ema and has some left over from school expenses what they do is donate the rest to a pentioner chaity.

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shut up with your chav ****!! i go to school & i'm gonna get EMA (£30 a week lol) so does that mean i am a chav? just because my dad won't supply mam with his money doesn't mean she's a bad parent or she doesn't do good enough work :S i'm not gonna spend it on a phone, i mean i've got everything i need, grandad & gran paid for college, dads gonna pay for driving lessons & car like he did with my brothers yet i'm still receiving EMA. i'm probably gonna buy some text books or clothes for it and it's not really money wasted.

I think benefits should stay, but maybe make some changes to the system.

And you moan at people getting EMA for staying at school, getting further education and getting a good income in the future, yet you moan at people that aren't doing anything, sitting around at home with no income.

Sounds like you just aren't happy :P

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Originally Posted by buttons

shut up with your chav ****!! i go to school & i'm gonna get EMA (£30 a week lol) so does that mean i am a chav? just because my dad won't supply mam with his money doesn't mean she's a bad parent or she doesn't do good enough work :S i'm not gonna spend it on a phone, i mean i've got everything i need, grandad & gran paid for college, dads gonna pay for driving lessons & car like he did with my brothers yet i'm still receiving EMA. i'm probably gonna buy some text books or clothes for it and it's not really money wasted.

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Ye sorry about the useage of the word chav i just donno what to call people who dont have as mutch. I would use the word "lower class" but then that sounds so mutch worse.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

I think benefits should stay, but maybe make some changes to the system.

And you moan at people getting EMA for staying at school, getting further education and getting a good income in the future, yet you moan at people that aren't doing anything, sitting around at home with no income.

Sounds like you just aren't happy :P

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Both annoy me because when i go to collage i will not be getting no £30 a week even though i pay my tax and accually fund ema.

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Originally Posted by hayd93

Ye sorry about the useage of the word chav i just donno what to call people who dont have as mutch. I would use the word "lower class" but then that sounds so mutch worse.

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labelling people isn't very nice however you would probably fall into the category of chav for using the incorrect spelling of MUCH, bad education? So people, as you like to call them "chavs", who don't have as much as others should actually be entitled to benefits so I don't see your problem :S Generally college/job is the easy way out for "chavs" so going to school is not as bad as you are making out..

I'm getting Income Support at the minute as I'm unable to work and do no receive EMA nor any other income and we're not exactly a rich family.

If you depend on benefits as a main income you're the underclass. I think people should be entitled to benefits, people struggle enough paying off debts these days and that's with all these benefits.

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Originally Posted by Funya Chin

I'm getting Income Support at the minute as I'm unable to work and do no receive EMA nor any other income and we're not exactly a rich family.

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Why the hell do you still have internet access if you need the money so much.


AND of course benefits shouldn't be scrapped.

EMA needs a good looking over, as i said some people need the money like REALLY need the money for paying for bus fare, food and equipment. But the bonuses are stupid. College and 6th form is for people who want to be there, not bribery which is why we need to scrap the bonuses (and give more to those in DIRE help).

I think that general benefits for food and stuff should be done using vouchers and NOT hard cash to try and discourage benefit fraud. People on jobseeker allowances should be required to work for the council litter picking, etc to show to them there is no option but work or re train.

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Originally Posted by buttons

labelling people isn't very nice however you would probably fall into the category of chav for using the incorrect spelling of MUCH, bad education? So people, as you like to call them "chavs", who don't have as much as others should actually be entitled to benefits so I don't see your problem :S Generally college/job is the easy way out for "chavs" so going to school is not as bad as you are making out..

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On this forum my spelling may be bad i agree but when i do you correct grammer ect i can and i know that from a A* for 2 of my courseworks for english.

Please then say what you want me to call people who live off benifits ect. In my book i call them chavs or lower class but round near me we really dont have that chavs only at school we have a few from a local area.