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Sammeth.
The shows that were held by the department up until the end were these type of shows where we did a basic time plan and that was it. We had certain topics up for discussion and the audience would be the main part of it, we did competitions etc to keep them entertained but the numbers drop and drop and drop and when it gets to the point where you're doing everything you can yet only 6 or 7 people turn up (mostly staff) then I think that's more of an insult to peoples hard work and dedication.
I've been looking into this and I've been in several discussion rooms on Habbo and I've found a number of lively discussions.. so clearly it's not down to people not wanting to discuss topics.
You refer to competitions to "keep them entertained" - you basically mean give them free stuff to keep them coming. Now I understand that greed in Habbo has grown tremendously, and people do expect free things. The "competitions" within shows shouldn't be "competitions" as such, we've got the competitions department for that, and lets face it if people just wanted to win stuff they would participate in competitions, or events. Shows were to entertain and for some reason the methods used were not entertaining users. When we used to do 'Games' in our Shows, the audience were more lively than the selected participants who may win prizes! In all honesty I think you tried a bit too hard with your shows, they were very often, and I believe this is what people got bored with. In the 6 months I was Manager, we did about 8-10 shows... all packed, and it's fair enough that was a long time ago, but I've seen similar things to this going on around Habbo today, you just need to go in at the precise angle to capture an audience... which correct me if i'm wrong... is what any bloody organisation does... God for crying out loud I work for the Theatre in Lincoln and some groups struggle to bring more than 20 people in, where others have a full house every night. There is always a way to entertain people, we just have to find what that is at the moment.
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There is a humongous difference between big budget talkshows and entertainment shows that are produced by people who work in television for a living and are 100% professionals in their trade, than a few teenagers holding a show on a teen social site. Comparing the two is a little over the top.
I beg to differ, comparing the two is completely fine... kids (and lets face it, we are dealing with an audience of kids here) aspire to be sat in the audience to these kind of shows... obviously this is a rare opportunity therefore if they find an opportunity to go to a show like this on Habbo, they'll go, and probably come back and try to get involved with the running of it. Habbo is used by so many as a subsitute of Real Life, yes this is a worrying factor however these people are our target audience therefore we must aim to please them.
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There are events every day, HxHD, HxL will have party rooms for its shows. Habbox is very much alive on Habbo Hotel itself. In fact technically Habbox is always present as the main feature of Habbo, trading, goes hand in hand with the rare values which happens to be one of Habbox's best features so there'll always be someone needing or using Habbox alongside Habbo. With the seasons and festivities we always pull out all the stops. In fact in about 4 days you'll notice a huge difference when the details of our Easter Extravaganza will be posted.
Habbox has no presence on Habbo in comparison to a year or two ago. There is no denying that. Yes rare values will always be a major presence, but lets face it I look for a Habbox room everytime I go on Habbo and usually the place with most people in is HxHD, or an event which is full so you can't really go anyway, and there is no alternative - which there always used to be.
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It all sounds so easy on paper to say "We can do such and such like this and it will work" but in actual fact is a lot harder than it looks when you start putting things into practice. Habbo changes a lot, and so do the trends that come with it. I think the majority of Habbos don't go on Habbo and think "Ooh, I could do with a nice debate and a talkshow". It's just not what's current.
You think you are some sort of expert in this? I know it's not easy, I spend my life organising events for children in secondary schools, I know the kind of entertainment they like varies week by week.
And no, people don't think "i could do with a debate & a talkshow" but more than often do people think "oh I'm bored I could do with something to do.." then stumble across the room or an advertisement for the show, think it may sound interesting and come in. So what if it's only people floating to start with, you have to build a fan base somehow.
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Maybe one off shows would be good every now and again as a novelty, but I don't think a whole department needs to be dedicated to it.
A "whole department" was never a lot until it was blown out of proportion by 8Freak8 after my departure in 2006. I had 5 people working on shows :rolleyes: and we were extremely successful.
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Leaahh.
The last set of productions staff were extremely dedicated and hardworking, that comment totally undermines their efforts and suggests that they weren't trying hard enough. People just weren't interested anymore.
Well people have interests, you've got to keep trying until you find them, people haven't just lost all interest in everything all of a sudden!
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I don't see how it is a waste of peoples hard work? The department got closed because it wasn't working, that takes nothing away from how it ran in the past or the staff that put work and effort in?
Several people put a lot of effort into shows, myself and managers after me. The department we dragged up to something successful was just chucked down because people became bored with the type of shows being produced... if you have a show which doesn't attract many people, you give up on that show, learn from your mistakes and build another, and you keep going until you find one that generates a small audience, then you keep going along that line, and the small audience will invite more people, and through word of mouth you become popular again.
Habbox Productions was never turned into what myself & 8Freak8 planned, infact you never changed it from Habbox Shows, so stop calling it Habbox Productions as that was a name I gave to a department which was going to be built, which never got built... it just remained as a small Shows department, and I dont think the majority of people referring to "Habbox Productions" know what Habbox Productions even was - this is the work that was wasted. And in all honesty, Habbox Shows produced the biggest Habbox event ever to be held on Habbo.. yet there is nothing to recall this, or celebrate it apart from a small paragraph on the website.
