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Originally Posted by Starburst..x
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Cristiano Ronaldo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Starburst..x
That may be so, so why are these 'decent' MPs not getting their act together and bringing about change that people are shouting for, but are instead giving empty promises and being overshadowed by those who are acting out of line.
Lol, okay he is another one of the most undeserving people to recieve a payrise.Quote:
Originally Posted by ifuseekamy
i don't see the issue. you're basing this argument around the expenses row, sure it's wrong but they're only human. the system was wrong and has since been amended - any of us in the same situation would have claimed for what we could.
The issue is that millions of hardworking people had a large quantity of their wages taken out in tax which is mean't to pay for things like education, the NHS and other factors which was then instead spent on stupid things like MPs claiming for 2nd mortgages that didnt exist, other members of their families mortgages, duck islands, tampons, jars of marmite, gardens, house renovations - you name it they spent it.
They may only be human, but they are the Government and should know better, because if you were to do the same thing i.e fiddle with your taxes they would come down on you like a ton of bricks.
MPs are hard working people too, end of.
They may be, but in no way does it make what they did and probably still continue to do any less of a crime or in anyway justify it.
They need the pay rise to pay back what they owe lol
Out of the number of around 650 MPs in our House of Commons (far too many anyway) i'd say around 400 of them are worthwhile. Also to someone who said 'run the country' well it would be good if they actually did, you had the former Europe Minister Caroline Flint who when was minister for Europe, didn't even read the Lisbon Treaty yet was happy to sign our country up to it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Immenseman
They may be hard working, but so are people all around the country who aren't having pay rises this year, who are working a month/few days for nothing to keep their company afloat, who are out of work and finally do not rip their company off for all its worth in expenses - because if they were found out to be doing what our MPs have been upto they'd be fired on the spot.
There were rules for MPs in the expenses row, simple rules which they failed and knew they were not following yet they thought they could get away with it. I wouldn't keep the taxpayer paying for a ghost mortage as an MP as that is fraud and many other MPs had the sense not to - because they knew it was wrong.
Below Myke has summed it up, they should be getting a wage cut if anything like people all around the country are, or even better - thrown out of the job when it comes to the elections.
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They need the pay rise to pay back what they owe lol
Most MPs expenses weren't fraudelent, they were just not in the spirit of the system. If they are recieving £10k more and we no longer need to pay for their furniture or taxes or whatever other rules they bring up, I guess it's OK. If the expenses rules are unchanged, it's a bad thing.