Italy's Berlusconi smacked in the face

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Originally Posted by Jordy

I think like most people of his age (73) he's stuck in his old ways. Hence why he doesn't come across as politically correct. However I think he should adapt his ways as Prime Minister of Italy as today, some of the stuff he says is very offence to people.

In terms of racism, he said Obama had a "nice suntan" which I suppose some people could deem racism, however he did say to a German MEP "Mr Schulz, I know a movie producer in Italy who is making a movie about Nazi concentration camps. I will recommend you for the role of a Kapo. You are perfect for the part!" - And he has also upset Muslims with his comments about them.

I don't think he is actually racist, I just think he makes inappropriate jokes and is anything but politically correct.

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I think it's a hilarious sense of humour, but not mature or PC.

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Originally Posted by ifuseekamy

Good, he disrespected the Queen. And is also misogynistic, racist and generally annoying.

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So? She's no better than anyone else..

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Originally Posted by Caution

So? She's no better than anyone else..

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Well she's our head of state so disrespecting her can be seen as quite offensive by many people. I know not everyone is patriotic (Like yourself) but bare in mind a lot of people are.

A Manchester United supporter would be pretty pissed off if Arsene Wenger spat on Alex Ferguson or Ryan Giggs. Yet arguably, Alex Ferguson is no better than anyone else...

If someone shouted abuse at your best mate, you would most probably take offence too and also retaliate.

Although the situations seem quite different, you look up to certain people and would be irritated if someone disrespected them.

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Well she's our head of state so disrespecting her can be seen as quite offensive by many people. I know not everyone is patriotic (Like yourself) but bare in mind a lot of people are.

A Manchester United supporter would be pretty pissed off if Arsene Wenger spat on Alex Ferguson or Ryan Giggs. Yet arguably, Alex Ferguson is no better than anyone else...

If someone shouted abuse at your best mate, you would most probably take offence too and also retaliate.

Although the situations seem quite different, you look up to certain people and would be irritated if someone disrespected them.

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I'm patriotic of Scotland, it's just unfortunate she's our Head of State.

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Originally Posted by Caution

I'm patriotic of Scotland, it's just unfortunate she's our Head of State.

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The Union works out well for Scotland (see the Barnett formula) if you left your only other option to sustain the level of public spending you currently have (free uni and so forth) would be to join the European Union, which would mean you would have a tiny voice in an organisation that pays no attention to members concerns unless you are Germany or France who run the show.

I'd support independance for Scotland on two grounds;

• The United Kingdom is not a member of the European Union so that we will not still be paying for Scotland through the European Union.
• The United Kingdom ceases to fund Scotland in all ways, thus ending grants and the Barnett formula.

Whether you like it or not, the Queen has shown far more dignity than most other heads of state, and is a figure which united not only England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland into a Union, but also a quarter of the world under an Empire which provided so much for the world.

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Originally Posted by Caution

I'm patriotic of Scotland, it's just unfortunate she's our Head of State.

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unlucky.


and yeah saw this the other day, kind of deserved it lol.