UK Airports to introduce new bomb detection equipment

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blah blah blah police state blah blah blah more cctv than china blah blah blah PC gone mad blah blah blah european union blah blah blah LibLabCon Alliance blah blah blah referendum blah blah UKIP blah blah hate muslims blah blah open borders blah blah

i'm glad they are planning to bring these in asap. though it's not really an end-all.

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You are all for open borders, so anything about security coming from you really doesn't make any sense. :S

Allow anyone in, but have tight airport security - makes sense (not).

Can anybody else see the hypocrisy in it? - because the truth is that there is little danger, and the danger posed is only because of our own stupidity to allow islamic preachers of hate into this country.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

You are all for open borders, so anything about security coming from you really doesn't make any sense. :S

Allow anyone in, but have tight airport security - makes sense (not).

Can anybody else see the hypocrisy in it? - because the truth is that there is little danger, and the danger posed is only because of our own stupidity to allow islamic preachers of hate into this country.

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I see nothing wrong with these scanners, anyone can be a terrorist. This is why the USA and UK are doing such procedures, we have needed these scanners in all airports for a long time and now its actually going to happen.

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Originally Posted by MattGarner

I see nothing wrong with these scanners, anyone can be a terrorist. This is why the USA and UK are doing such procedures, we have needed these scanners in all airports for a long time and now its actually going to happen.

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The point I am making, is that how can they say we need these scanners for security (which whether you agree with them or not in general you must agree that they strip away civil liberties) when they have open borders?

You cannot preach security at the expense of liberty but have open borders, its the height of hypocrisy.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

The point I am making, is that how can they say we need these scanners for security (which whether you agree with them or not in general you must agree that they strip away civil liberties) when they have open borders?

You cannot preach security at the expense of liberty but have open borders, its the height of hypocrisy.

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There will always be a threat of terrorists with open/closed borders. You can not stop them fully, they will always be here. Unless we do something kinda crazy but yeah.

Let's put it this way, the open border malarkey is a whole different ball game in terms of how people will react to changing it. Who we let in this country is shocking i agree with you and should be heavily restricted, however changing it will cause certain conflict and an outbreak of protests and riots from the delusional people with an immediate effect. Something the government is so afraid of and to stand up against, which really annoys me.

But back to the point, despite who can get in and out of where there are always going to be those who want to inflict terror and destruction and because of that a step to reducing terrorism (all be it a secondary measure because of the border procedures) is by implementing these machines to airports. It is sad that is has to come to this sort of technology to protect civil life but it's keeping us safe in certain terms.

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Originally Posted by MattGarner

There will always be a threat of terrorists with open/closed borders. You can not stop them fully, they will always be here. Unless we do something kinda crazy but yeah.

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Indeed there will, but islamic extremism (which is the 'threat' we face now) is the one which targets aeroplanes. If you close borders, or don't allow the nutters into the country then you remove the threat. It is so simple, but as usual Labour will make the rest of us suffer for their lack of security and instead find it easier to treat us like criminals in our own airports. It is like installing all anti-burglar alarms, bars and the rest of it on your house, but leaving your back door open.

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Originally Posted by Yoshimitsui

Let's put it this way, the open border malarkey is a whole different ball game in terms of how people will react to changing it. Who we let in this country is shocking i agree with you and should be heavily restricted, however changing it will cause certain conflict and an outbreak of protests and riots from the delusional people with an immediate effect. Something the government is so afraid of and to stand up against, which really annoys me.

But back to the point, despite who can get in and out of where there are always going to be those who want to inflict terror and destruction and because of that a step to reducing terrorism (all be it a secondary measure because of the border procedures) is by implementing these machines to airports. It is sad that is has to come to this sort of technology to protect civil life but it's keeping us safe in certain terms.

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I don't see why our civil liberties should be severed when a government allows any crackpot into this country. It is wrong.

:rolleyes: says it all.


It's all about show, not actual security, it's to tell the public that they're safe, not to make them safe. If a terrorist wanted to blow up a plane then it ain't difficult, just need someone who works in the airport McDonalds and you're sorted, they're so ethnically diverse at airport shops that it's hardly difficult.

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Originally Posted by 00chips

:rolleyes: says it all.


It's all about show, not actual security, it's to tell the public that they're safe, not to make them safe. If a terrorist wanted to blow up a plane then it ain't difficult, just need someone who works in the airport McDonalds and you're sorted, they're so ethnically diverse at airport shops that it's hardly difficult.

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That's such a small minded stupid comment. How the hell do you expect a McDonalds employee to board a plane wearing a uniform (it'd be pretty hard to change clothes whilst your working) and actually get on the plane without a ticket?

Also, I know that a lot of airport staff get checked themselves for banned items (I know that my dad wasn't allowed to take any liquids in to his office), etc so again, this is a stupid comment to make.

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Originally Posted by Invent

That's such a small minded stupid comment. How the hell do you expect a McDonalds employee to board a plane wearing a uniform (it'd be pretty hard to change clothes whilst your working) and actually get on the plane without a ticket?

Also, I know that a lot of airport staff get checked themselves for banned items (I know that my dad wasn't allowed to take any liquids in to his office), etc so again, this is a stupid comment to make.

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He is right, hes saying what I have been saying aswell. The next major and probably successful terrorist attack will come from within an airport.

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Originally Posted by Yoshimitsui

Let's put it this way, the open border malarkey is a whole different ball game in terms of how people will react to changing it. Who we let in this country is shocking i agree with you and should be heavily restricted, however changing it will cause certain conflict and an outbreak of protests and riots from the delusional people with an immediate effect. Something the government is so afraid of and to stand up against, which really annoys me. ...

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Basically, they have done something to piss us off because they know we're not going to get violent about it, rather than upsetting the people who they know would cause trouble over it? Surely that's just giving into terrorism right there? :S

Anyway will this be instead of x-ray scanners or as well as?