106-year-old resident loses battle against carehome closure

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It is all very well saying that, but £2 million isn't a lot of these people especially when they hear of a government on the news everyday giving money to seemingly everyone who wants it across the world.



Mr Brown certainly has the time, but as you seemingly suggested unknowingly;- not the effort. He appears to have time to mourn every celebrity death (Michael Jackson) or even to congratulate talent contest runners-up (Susan Boyle) but has little time for this matter.

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£2 Million is an awful lot of money, especially to a council. Just because the government gives away too much money to other causes doesn't mean they may as well waste it elsewhere.

You were moaning in another thread about Cameron not doing enough to cut our debt (Which is fair enough) yet you're complaining the government aren't splashing out £2 Million on an old woman. This is not a national issue, or an issue for the government at all. I'm not saying he should be congratulating Susan Boyle, but it doesn't mean he should be looking into relatively minor things. Two wrongs don't make a right it goes without saying.

I'm sure you would complain about him interfering with our elected local councils anyway if he did do something, you'd probably accuse him of being power hungry, interested in minor issues and wasting money when we're in debt. I'm getting sick to death of this.

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£2 Million is an awful lot of money, especially to a council. Just because the government gives away too much money to other causes doesn't mean they may as well waste it elsewhere.

You were moaning in another thread about Cameron not doing enough to cut our debt (Which is fair enough) yet you're complaining the government aren't splashing out £2 Million on an old woman. This is not a national issue, or an issue for the government at all. I'm not saying he should be congratulating Susan Boyle, but it doesn't mean he should be looking into relatively minor things. Two wrongs don't make a right it goes without saying.

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No it doesn't, but when a group of old women are being treated awfully by their council and when a government says it has no money to keep this home open, yet has the money to give the rest of the world you can clearly see my point. Think it now; money to China or money to causes like this? - of course we would pick this issue. It isn't a matter of great importance to the nation, but neither is Susan Boyle and we certainly don't need Mr Brown telling us all how great we feel for her.

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I'm sure you would complain about him interfering with our elected local councils anyway if he did do something, you'd probably accuse him of being power hungry, interested in minor issues and wasting money when we're in debt. I'm getting sick to death of this.

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Actually I wouldn't, i'd call him compassionate and caring for once and would certainly respect him a great deal more;- so perhaps maybe stop assuming what I would and would not think because you are totally off mark when it comes to that.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Mr Brown certainly has the time, but as you seemingly suggested unknowingly;- not the effort. He appears to have time to mourn every celebrity death (Michael Jackson) or even to congratulate talent contest runners-up (Susan Boyle) but has little time for this matter.

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My local shop is getting shut down. Someone is going to lose their job.

Mr. Brown, can you fund the taxes and cost of it so I can have my daily freddo?

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Originally Posted by Ardemax

My local shop is getting shut down. Someone is going to lose their job.

Mr. Brown, can you fund the taxes and cost of it so I can have my daily freddo?

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Far different, these people rely on the state because they are incapable of looking after themselves through no fault of their own.

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No it doesn't, but when a group of old women are being treated awfully by their council and when a government says it has no money to keep this home open, yet has the money to give the rest of the world you can clearly see my point. Think it now; money to China or money to causes like this? - of course we would pick this issue. It isn't a matter of great importance to the nation, but neither is Susan Boyle and we certainly don't need Mr Brown telling us all how great we feel for her.



Actually I wouldn't, i'd call him compassionate and caring for once and would certainly respect him a great deal more;- so perhaps maybe stop assuming what I would and would not think because you are totally off mark when it comes to that.

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What do you mean compassionate? They're only moving homes it's not like they're being left out in the cold to die. The council aren't treating them awfully, they're simply doing what's right. If it isn't of great importance to the nation why do you think the PM should intervene?

Money to China or money to causes like this? Neither.

I'm afraid there is no pleasing you what so ever when it comes to mainstream politics, no matter what any of the parties do, they are wrong.

wow thats rlly cruel... but hey its the government there idiots.


oh nd I would ;)

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Far different, these people rely on the state because they are incapable of looking after themselves through no fault of their own.

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I believe I was on about the government funding them and helping them out.

It's not like they can fix everyone's problems, some care homes have to close.

The only reason this has been publiscised is because it houses the oldest woman in GB.

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What do you mean compassionate? They're only moving homes it's not like they're being left out in the cold to die. The council aren't treating them awfully, they're simply doing what's right. If it isn't of great importance to the nation why do you think the PM should intervene?

Money to China or money to causes like this? Neither.

I'm afraid there is no pleasing you what so ever when it comes to mainstream politics, no matter what any of the parties do, they are wrong.

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I think the PM should intervene because he seems to like intervening in everything but issues that effect his own people. On the compassion side, yeah it would of been compassionate;- they are old and frail, are all good friends and wish to remain living where they are until their last days. You are young, you might not find it a great deal but they do. Especially as she is 106 years old.

Oh there is pleasing me, just what the three main parties stand for is all the same and i'm certainly not pleased with that.

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I believe I was on about the government funding them and helping them out.

It's not like they can fix everyone's problems, some care homes have to close.

The only reason this has been publiscised is because it houses the oldest woman in GB.

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No he can't fix everyones problems you are right, so maybe he should stop pretending that he can (by giving billions to China, India and Zimbabwe) when that money could be better spent on a cause here.

so you winge about UK spending 5m on helping to bridge a gap with a big, dangerous superpower, and you think that spending 40% of that money on a single case of an old carehome being shut down is legit? the only reason why this case is worth reading is because it's a 106 year old... besides, what's with you quoting stories from the, uh what was it... 'daily fail'?

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so you winge about UK spending 5m on helping to bridge a gap with a big, dangerous superpower, and you think that spending 40% of that money on a single case of an old carehome being shut down is legit? the only reason why this case is worth reading is because it's a 106 year old... besides, what's with you quoting stories from the, uh what was it... 'daily fail'?

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Yeah I do, especially when China has actually got too much money (yeah thats true, its provinces actually have hundreds of billions in surplus to spend and they don't know how they are going to spend it) and our country is in debt. There was nothing to bridge with China, more to the point China isn't even a superpower yet.

Here we go on the newspaper stories again, if you don't like it post some Guardian stories about how Gordon Brown saved the worlds financial banking system and saved us all at Copenhagen - afterall in his own words he 'saved the world'. Meanwhile, i'd rather stick to the real world and post stories such as this which highlights and prompts debate on how our country spends its money, and even more so prompts debate about care for the elderly.