UKIP to call for a ban on wearing a burka.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Yes a referendum and why? - because it is this country, not the politicians who should have the right to govern. On banning the burka, i'm afraid the majority of people are not racist Tash so do not make out that they are. The majority of people in this country, like myself, want equality for everyone but not over-equality as we have seen. There is nothing to mis-understand on why muslims wear these, they are a sign of the oppression of women/radical islam which is not welcome in Britain so again, do not claim the British public are too stupid to work these things out.

"I can't go into a bank with a motorcycle helmet on. I can't wear a balaclava going round the District and Circle line." - Nigel Farage

This is exactly what it is all about, its one rule for us and one rule for them. It should be one rule for everybody when it comes to an issue such as this. As shown above, this issue can never be debated properly because as soon as it is the words racist are brought into the subject it paints ordinary, none racists such as myself, UKIP and the majority of the public as racist when we are just not.

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Look, you haven't read the Qu'ran and neither have I, so you cannot conclusively say that they do not wear it for relgious purposes. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt if they want to wear it in the streets. I can understand airports, banks not allowing them because they can be a security risk, but they are no harm in the street walking past you. You wouldn't mind a lad with a hoodie walking past you and they're more likely to do you harm than a woman in a burka. If you ban only burkas you aren't being fair at all, if you ban burkas you must ban the wearing of hoodies by younger people and you aren't likely to do that are you?

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Originally Posted by Biohazard

Bit of a difference. :rolleyes:

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How so? They're both worn as a religious rite. Burqas and Hjiabs are worn as it states a woman's sanctity must be protected

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Originally Posted by Technologic

Would you ban a sikh from wearing a turban?

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That does not obsure the face.

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Originally Posted by Tash.

Look, you haven't read the Qu'ran and neither have I, so you cannot conclusively say that they do not wear it for relgious purposes. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt if they want to wear it in the streets. I can understand airports, banks not allowing them because they can be a security risk, but they are no harm in the street walking past you. You wouldn't mind a lad with a hoodie walking past you and they're more likely to do you harm than a woman in a burka. If you ban only burkas you aren't being fair at all, if you ban burkas you must ban the wearing of hoodies by younger people and you aren't likely to do that are you?

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Nigel Farage was just sat in a room with a muslim women, who (after he pressed and pressed her) admitted that burkas are not a mandatory part of the religion of Islam for women. Therefore I can clearly state that burkas are not compulsory for muslim women. On the second point, I agree to an extent we would have to see what policy they come up with at the end of the day when the French have completed their inquiry into the issue. If it bans them on the street, I would disagree however I believe this issue should be put to a referendum that would be worded something like;

Should burkas that hide the face be banned in public buildings?

As Farage said, he cannot wear a helmet in a bank and neither should a burka be allowed either.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Nigel Farage was just sat in a room with a muslim women, who (after he pressed and pressed her) admitted that burkas are not a mandatory part of the religion of Islam for women. Therefore I can clearly state that burkas are not compulsory for muslim women. On the second point, I agree to an extent we would have to see what policy they come up with at the end of the day when the French have completed their inquiry into the issue. If it bans them on the street, I would disagree however I believe this issue should be put to a referendum that would be worded something like;

Should burkas that hide the face be banned in public buildings?

As Farage said, he cannot wear a helmet in a bank and neither should a burka be allowed either.

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As someone earlier said, they are there to protect the modesty of the women. That may not be a value that we have here, but I don't see how it does any harm when warn in day to day life. As i've said previously, yes they should be banned in banks and airports, just the same as a helmet would be. But you wouldn't ban those or hoodies in the street so to me you are taking away a civil liberty if you ban burkas in the streets.

Should be banned in public places. But there should be areas you can wear them.

Like smoking really.

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Originally Posted by Tash.

As someone earlier said, they are there to protect the modesty of the women. That may not be a value that we have here, but I don't see how it does any harm when warn in day to day life. As i've said previously, yes they should be banned in banks and airports, just the same as a helmet would be. But you wouldn't ban those or hoodies in the street so to me you are taking away a civil liberty if you ban burkas in the streets.

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That is an opinion, we are in Britain and not Saudi Arabia and therefore our values must come first and be respected before others. If a man wanted to walk around naked, would that be allowed? - but he could say he wants to because he believes it shows his freedom - but it isn't allowed.

On the second issue, are UKIP proposing a total ban or just a partial ban in public buildings. I support the ban in public buildings fully however as I stated before, I am not fully supportive if a ban everywhere.

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Originally Posted by AlexOC

Should be banned in public places. But there should be areas you can wear them.

Like smoking really.

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Totally agree.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Totally agree.

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What? You expect Muslim women to just nip outside for five minutes to wear a Burqa?

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Originally Posted by Technologic

What? You expect Muslim women to just nip outside for five minutes to wear a Burqa?

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LMAO.

Thats exactly the image i realised people would think when i re-read my post.

No, likes obviously their places of worship, homes, etc.

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Originally Posted by Technologic

What? You expect Muslim women to just nip outside for five minutes to wear a Burqa?

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Good point - they should be banned completely.

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Originally Posted by Technologic

What? You expect Muslim women to just nip outside for five minutes to wear a Burqa?

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What has that got to do with a burka?

I have just said, I would agree with a ban as AlexOC proposed that is similar to the one they have used on smoking, where smoking is banned in public places. Its very clear-cut.