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Groups will always exist, that's my point. You went on some boring un-needed rant about how they run the country, when that's not necessarily a bad thing anyway :/
Of course they will always exist, and my point has never been and is still not (although you seem determined to make it out) that groups should not exist. I am simply saying that these groups have far too much influence on government and have militant traits to them. As a muslim woman on the news once said, who are the Muslim Council of Great Britain? - she never elected them, she never appointed them to advise the government on her behalf so why on earth are the government falling head over heels to cater to what the MCOGB wants?
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Infact, groups like this have changed the way we deal with certain events that the government paste over quite alot :/ You say unelected like they directly run the country, when they do not and that every group has an agenda to run the country, when they do not. Intervention from a third party isn't a necessary bad, look at how the media has shown the government up for being money hungry and useless when tackling problems and intervention from the public. Mums (usually) and family members who have made groups in protest of the war show the government up as being unaware with what happens in the war zone is another example of a group which shows no malice towards the country, infact alot of people agree with them saying the lack of supplies and poor treatment is appauling. Again, you narrow-mindedly focus on malicious groups, and assume all intervention groups are malicious, when this. is. not. the. case. and seems to be absent minded Daily Mail babble, where any minority should not exist, and that apparently Stephen Gately died because he was gay (mega lols towards the Mail for that shocker).
Thats all very well, so why is this government so eager to cater for its minority groups but not groups such as the Stop the War coalition who have quite mainstream support. There shouldn't even be a group for something like lack of military equipment because that should be there, no questions asked.
On the Daily Mail, Jan Moir did not say that and as far as I can remember I read it myself. There was nothing remotely homophobic about that article and she clearly stated (from what I remember) that dying in the same hotel room while your boyfriend and another man have sex isn't the greatest way to die. - I totally agree with that, not a nice death is it. She did not say all homosexuals should die or that Steph Gately deserved to die because he was gay, so do not make that up.
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And it's the absent minded, dimwitted Daily Mail and other daft newspapers and small minded people who seem to believe that ALL members of any minority are the same. Just because Gay Pride, one of the countries most random events (not useless, just random) is a bit flamboyant, it's assumed that every homosexual is apparently a floppy handed, pompous person who loves rubbing and slapping their sexuality into the faces of others, when this is not true. It's amazing how many homosexuals are against the commercialisation of homosexuality, though the bigger picture actually shows Gay Pride doing more good than bad in an economic sense, just not very useful in a social sense for any small-minded people who experience it and assume the event has all to do with the way the people act. Another example of prejudice is with Indian nationals all own Indian Take-Aways and Mercedes, and have poor attitudes towards British nationals are other examples of mindless "Daily Mail" babble where the bad immediately over-takes the good, when it's a minority within a minority causing the problems.
I read the Daily Mail and I also read its website comments from its reader. I can tell you right now that the paper and its readers are not against homosexuality and do not think that all gays are into pride marches and so forth. Any genuine homophobic comments on the Daily Mail website always have a few hundred red arrows or so. As usual you have ran (like others) out of anything worthwhile to say to me, but go on to attack the Daily Mail.
On the Indian nationals, what on earth are you on about. The Daily Mail has never attacked Indian Nationals and you know fully well that the assumption that all Indians own a takeaway is a sterotype. Sterotypes will always be around. Do you now see yourself as some left wing student determined to 'break down barriers' aka PC talk.
Sterotypes will always be around, yet again you are trying to link something totally not true to the Daily Mail. The vast majority of the British people do not believe in sterotypes anyway, so again, do not treat the people like they are so stupid they they cannot make up their own minds and follow the Daily Mail for what to do next (especially when the Mail hasn't even done the things you are accusing it of!).
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Again, more mindless babble about something I really do not care about as I do not disagree, when I made it quite clear in my first post that these groups will always exist and are not "always" malicious. Again, you rant about how they are when I don't care, the non-malicious ones are the ones that have the agenda to show the government what is wrong with hope to fix it. It's not constantly rubbed in your face, unless you purposely read the Daily Mail for your daily "hate" fix, that's when it is rubbed in your face because you're purposely looking to have it rubbed into your face.
I have made it clear throughout this discussion that I have never said groups will not exist and I don't believe groups should be banned anyway. I have also made it quite clear that I agree with these groups right to speak, but I do not agree with militant groups advising the government on policy and the government listening to these groups as though they represent the minority, when they do not.
On the Daily Mail, again ran out of things to say so you have a go at the paper. The Daily Mail is the second/third best selling paper in this country and the vast majority of the British people are not stupid, therefore the Mail is not what you are making it out to be and neither is the Daily Express which also follows similar storylines.
Extreme equality creates extreme hatred, and thats what these papers are saying and thats what happens. I agree with them and so do a lot of other people (judging by sales figures when compared to left-wing papers such as the Guardian) so do not try and claim that opinions like mine against militant-in-your-face homosexuality are those of the Mail which I have chosen to believe.
You have twisted nearly everything I have said in this discussion, and as shown by your attack on the Mail (on which the stuff you have said isn't true anyway) you have ran out of things to say.
