Anyway, looks asif we are going towards a Government with David Cameron at the helm...
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Anyway, looks asif we are going towards a Government with David Cameron at the helm...
Democracy?
The system is corrupt, I have heard that Tony Blair only got 22% of the electorates approval in 1997 yet became Prime Minister - and to think we call Zimbabwe and other nations corrupt. FPTP has to go.
We have the Liberal Democrats with 3/4 of Labours vote yet less than 1/4 share of seats in parliament (compared to Labours share).
We have the Conservatives with 36% yet have nearly 50% representation in parliament.
We have the Green Party with a mere 250,000 votes yet have a seat in parliament.
We have the BNP with 560,000 votes yet no representation in parliament.
We have UKIP with one million votes yet no seats in parliament.
I agree, it's wrong, and isn't fair. It needs to change.
I agree and it must be a condition in any agreement and I believe it will be. Nick is a firm advocate of STV although I believe he would accept AV+ also.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
On another point your stats are bias. The Greens got closer to 300,000 votes than 250,000 and UKIP closer to 900,000 than 1 Million, you are just over exaggerating UKIPs vote compared to the Greens who recently won a seat (Quite rightly). I do agree that UKIP should have won some seats but so should the Green party.
If Nick Clegg does not do or push for proportional representation then he has not only lied to yourself and millions who voted for him, but he has also ruined the only chance in a generation for his party to get somewhere and stop this ridiculous voting system continuing - every vote should count. On my stats, they are roughly done and off the top of my head without looking at the exact polls so yeah they will be slightly wrong. The Green Party needs representation, so does UKIP and so does the BNP - any party which gets a amount of votes should be represented whether they are the communist party, monster raving loony party or the ku klux klan.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyDuo
I strongly oppose ANY deal between Cameron and Clegg if Cameron gives way to some Lib Dem policys.
I would hope for a Conservative Minority government and the prospect of an election within the next year or so and then a new Conservative government can be elected with an overall MAJORITY.
I love how you think people are going to vote Conservative in a years time when they see how they govern in the next year with that minority government.Quote:
Originally Posted by jam666
There are various forms of an Minority government. An ideal arrangement would be unoffical suport by the Lib Dems for the Conservatives.
However as unusual as this sounds i would love and HATE lab/lib/snp/pc/green etc coalition... This would be great for the Conservatives as it would fall apart within a year and the labour / lib dems would of self slaughtered themselves. However the biggest problem with this is electoral reform.
I think the Lib Dems should take Camerons offer. We've seen what Labours like and to be honest I presonally can't stand Labour. I can see everyone re-voting though.