EU goes for yet another power grab

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

as much use as a puppet to its masters.

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To be fair a puppet is generally quite useful to its master

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

That is exactly what happened with agriculture, fishing, social policy (immigration, working times) and the courts - now most of the powers lay with the European Union. So the question remains, are you happy with your laws being made by unelected eurocrats in Brussels? In regards to the timeframe, the article gives a timetable of the introduction.

The project is the creation of a European Superstate which is what these people work towards everyday despite never having asked the people of Europe whether or not they want their nation-states abolished and replaced with a federal europe, so yeah its fun to them.

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You babble on about a European Superstate every ******* thread.

Have you not realised that the British citizens have a knack of electing incompetent buffoons to govern us, and that taking power away from them may be EXACTLY what we need?

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Originally Posted by Niall!

You babble on about a European Superstate every ******* thread.

Have you not realised that the British citizens have a knack of electing incompetent buffoons to govern us, and that taking power away from them may be EXACTLY what we need?

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You have no problem with being governed by unelected eurocrats who wish to abolish the United Kingdom?

What a poor attitude to take considering all the lives that were lost in the process of maintaining independence throughout all of history, while I would agree partially with that statement - its not worth sacraficing democracy and our country to spite inept politicians.

As for the European Superstate - well yes I would babble on about it, especially in a EU thread which I created.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

You have no problem with being governed by unelected eurocrats who wish to abolish the United Kingdom?

What a poor attitude to take considering all the lives that were lost in the process of maintaining independence throughout all of history, while I would agree partially with that statement - its not worth sacraficing democracy and our country to spite inept politicians.

As for the European Superstate - well yes I would babble on about it, especially in a EU thread which I created.

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I have a problem with being governed by idiots.

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Originally Posted by Niall!

I have a problem with being governed by idiots.

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Well while our lot are mostly idiots, granted - trust me that the European Union is one hundred times as worse; they have a convicted embezzeler as the Head Commissioner, a woman who was part of CND and most likely took donations during the Cold War from our enemy the Soviet Union, a man whos been convicted of fraud and had to resign twice in this country because of that issue and a lot more - I also recall that the head of the anti-fraud department in the EU is actually a convicted fraudster also. The video below has a quick run through of the criminal convictions within the European Union and its top brass.

Human audit on the Barroso Commission (worth a watch).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPjOoS8AAc

If doing this law module has taught me anything, the EU is a waste of time in terms of how the judiciary system and legal system works. What happens in mainland Europe may not have an relevance in the United Kingdom, but they have the power to change laws because the European Courts are higher up in the hierarchy.

This probably won't happen anyway. We would have to be in the Euro, and even if we were it would just be a waste f time and cause more problems if anything, seeing as that is what the Euro seems to be best at, ruining it for the majority, rather than the minority.