Android V iPhone

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Originally Posted by MrPinkPanther

The Android store is not predicted to overtake the iOS Appstore until 2015. This is because iPhone users are more inclined to download apps and tend to be more "Tech savvy".

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Being able to waste money on a device doesn't make you more tech savvy :S I'd say it's the other way round, Android users are more likely to be tech savvy, seeing as some apps you have to install manually by plugging it into a USB, adding Android app files and installing them that way if they're not available in the App Market. iPhone seems more for the dumb or those wanting a simple device, as Apple and some users market it (with many from here saying it's a simple, easy to use device).

Also, Android is pretty recent. iOS has been around for years and been very popular thanks to Apple, who really only took off with the iPod :/

Adding to that, any major company would develop apps for any major device. It's basic business practice to reach a wider audience.

Android is a good OS and will take over iOS some point in it's time. Yes Apple may have an App Store on their iPod Touch and iPad also but you are forgotten that Android tablets are also being announced and so on. So if people buy them, then they will obviously want to download and install applications. Android is doing very way in terms of people wanting a phone with that OS.

As much as I hate to admit it I do think Android is definitely taking over from iOS and the App Store's place. Android appears on a more broad spectrum of handsets and, like someone else said, Apple only has two iPhones on the market you can buy brand new.

I do agree that most of the apps on the App Store are junk like fart soundboards etc but I reckon, as Android phones' popularity increases, so will the likelihood of the Android Store being full of ****e.

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Originally Posted by Recursion

The Apple app store still has many more apps, most of them fart soundboards and other rubbish though ;)

And yes, Android is/will overtake Apple, but we have to remember, Android is selling on a collection of phones, from a collection of manufacturers, on a collection of carriers, whilst iOS is selling on one phone, from just a few carriers.

Anyone who say it won't overtake iOS is talking rubbish, it's a fact it will, just not necessarily for the reasons people think.

Android FTW!

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Only replying to this one post:

http://mashable.com/2010/05/06/veriz...tomers-iphone/

The American smartphone is probably the biggest in the world. Verizon support Android through & through, but AT&T are the only carrier in the states to have the iPhone. So lets say... Both get the iPhone, how do you think the market share will go?

I think it'll shift, quite big, in iPhone's favour. Just sayin'. When the iPhone's exclusivity deal with O2 ended in the UK, alot of people traded their old phones for iPhones, and they're gonna do that again in the states. Android will lose market share next year, plus the fact the iPhone 4 balled up has worked in their favour, so when a mistake like that isn't made, and a new pro-Android carrier is announced, it seriously wont look as good. Both Google & Apple know it really.

Anyway yeah iOS is obviously exclusive, but thats what makes it so good, its exclusive and expensive and it's a gadget which people like. I've never used Android before so I'm not gonna go on about how its crappy and stuff (like some of you probably mightve already), buuut imo, iPhone > Android for quite a long time.

I mean I don't see most of the worlds press reporting on a new Android phone lol. They'd rather report on the revolutionary iPhone. brap brap LOL.

Though I come across total pro iPhone, I did see a guy with an iPhone 4 and he was holding it wrong, he kept on losing signal it was ******* hilarious LOL they screwed up big time with the iPhone 4 and quite rightly so that Android is claiming some ground due to that. I mean, iPhone releases once a year, Android OS has been released on god knows how many phones.

Right now Android have got the upper hand on quantity and quality due to their massive screwup. K.

(and I've just realised you were talking OS-wise not phone wise my point feels silly now LOL)

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

Only replying to this one post:

http://mashable.com/2010/05/06/veriz...tomers-iphone/

The American smartphone is probably the biggest in the world. Verizon support Android through & through, but AT&T are the only carrier in the states to have the iPhone. So lets say... Both get the iPhone, how do you think the market share will go?

I think it'll shift, quite big, in iPhone's favour. Just sayin'. When the iPhone's exclusivity deal with O2 ended in the UK, alot of people traded their old phones for iPhones, and they're gonna do that again in the states. Android will lose market share next year, plus the fact the iPhone 4 balled up has worked in their favour, so when a mistake like that isn't made, and a new pro-Android carrier is announced, it seriously wont look as good. Both Google & Apple know it really.

Anyway yeah iOS is obviously exclusive, but thats what makes it so good, its exclusive and expensive and it's a gadget which people like. I've never used Android before so I'm not gonna go on about how its crappy and stuff (like some of you probably mightve already), buuut imo, iPhone > Android for quite a long time.

I mean I don't see most of the worlds press reporting on a new Android phone lol. They'd rather report on the revolutionary iPhone. brap brap LOL.

Though I come across total pro iPhone, I did see a guy with an iPhone 4 and he was holding it wrong, he kept on losing signal it was ******* hilarious LOL they screwed up big time with the iPhone 4 and quite rightly so that Android is claiming some ground due to that. I mean, iPhone releases once a year, Android OS has been released on god knows how many phones.

Right now Android have got the upper hand on quantity and quality due to their massive screwup. K.

(and I've just realised you were talking OS-wise not phone wise my point feels silly now LOL)

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The reason why you don't see say the "big news channels" reporting new Android phones is because they would report on a new one X amount of days/weeks/months. There is a ton more Android devices than there is to iPhone models. There is only one a year (in terms of a new model) so yeah....

I use Android and I like Android. I can't do a comparison honestly because I think I'd be quite biased and say Android is better without having of used a new iPhone these days :P

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Android is a good OS and will take over iOS some point in it's time. Yes Apple may have an App Store on their iPod Touch and iPad also but you are forgotten that Android tablets are also being announced and so on. So if people buy them, then they will obviously want to download and install applications. Android is doing very way in terms of people wanting a phone with that OS.

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Oh yeh of course and I'm debating getting the rumoured Archos Tablet if it comes out but I can't really see Android Tablets selling as well as the iPod Touch or iPad. The thing is Apple has many "loyal" fans who will just keep purchasing products, I for example know someone who owns every generation of iPod Touch. I think these fanboys are a lot more common with Apple than Android.

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Being able to waste money on a device doesn't make you more tech savvy :S I'd say it's the other way round, Android users are more likely to be tech savvy, seeing as some apps you have to install manually by plugging it into a USB, adding Android app files and installing them that way if they're not available in the App Market. iPhone seems more for the dumb or those wanting a simple device, as Apple and some users market it (with many from here saying it's a simple, easy to use device).

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Exactly. What I'm saying is that many Android users don't download apps because they aren't "Tech savvy". My point is that the iPhone is a premium product and people who purchase it generally have a fair bit of knowledge about it. Whereas Android devices can often be far far cheaper and so people may use them as normal mobiles rather than smartphones. Take my Grandma for example she owns the T-Mobile Pulse Mini.

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Adding to that, any major company would develop apps for any major device. It's basic business practice to reach a wider audience.

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You develop for where your market is. I mean look at the PSP and DS, the DS owns the vast majority of the games market and hence not only gets many games before the PSP but it gets much more exclusives too. As I say I think this will change with Android as it grows but I don't think the Android Market will reach anywhere near the Appstore in terms of "premium titles" anytime soon.

I'm sure Android's market will overtake Apple's app store and I'm sure that Android being open source is a bonus.

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Originally Posted by MrPinkPanther

Exactly. What I'm saying is that many Android users don't download apps because they aren't "Tech savvy". My point is that the iPhone is a premium product and people who purchase it generally have a fair bit of knowledge about it. Whereas Android devices can often be far far cheaper and so people may use them as normal mobiles rather than smartphones. Take my Grandma for example she owns the T-Mobile Pulse Mini.

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Which makes no sense. You assume everyone who buys an iPhone is tech-savvy (as said in your original post) and assume that everyone who uses an iPhone uses it as a smart phone when you'd be surprised just how many use them as an oridinary phone (if they get by the basic signal issues :P). Although Android phones are cheaper, you assume the basic Android user isn't tech-savvy, when that's the amazing thing about Android, you can make it as simple as you want or as advanced as you want. It covers a wider spectrum than the iPhone - it's for the tech-savvy and the ones who couldn't care less, and you can make that mark on the phone by making it as basic or as funky as you want - so no, not exactly :S

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Originally Posted by MrPinkPanther

You develop for where your market is. I mean look at the PSP and DS, the DS owns the vast majority of the games market and hence not only gets many games before the PSP but it gets much more exclusives too. As I say I think this will change with Android as it grows but I don't think the Android Market will reach anywhere near the Appstore in terms of "premium titles" anytime soon.

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Apple do not own any major game titles or companies. Nintendo own many game companies and titles, or are heavily affiliated, with some companies utilising the features and functions of the DS e.g. Electronic Arts. So there is no comparison between Apple and Nintendo when Apple do not develop games while Nintendo do and own the consoles in which those games are played on. If anything, the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad only really get EA exclusives, which suck immensely anyway. Besides, games do not make the smartphones, Apps do, games just so happen to be sold and/or obtained through the App Store/Marketplace :/ Games make up little of the smartphone experience, and assuming smartphones are game consoles is pretty naive when it's usually suggested they're just a computer away from home - for emails, Facebook, news and stuff on the go. The gaming side is pretty minimal at best.

Major companies like the BBC develop Apps for both Android and iOS, Google develop for both (even though Android is from Google). Business aim for both big market shares, especially when the Android Marketplace is growing. A business would be pretty terrible if they cannot design for a wider market. EA does not develop games for Android because there is no desire at the moment. Games exist on Android, but they're usually mobile games rather than games made by companies that also create PC games.

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What I'm saying is that many Android users don't download apps because they aren't "Tech savvy"

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What? :S So all the people who download applications on the iPhone is tech savvy? That is incorrect. Say If every iPhone user downloads applications, that does not say that are tech savvy. The iPhone is not rocket science and it doesn't take someone to have a not of Tech knowledge to use it. :P