HMP Ford Prison Riot

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Ah, and because this prison is an open air prison they can pretty much do the whole process. It's pretty interesting, and might be of use for some students out there who want to make their own cheap alcohol :P

HMP Ford just need to focus on proper waste management by the looks of things, why the prisoners are anywhere near carrier bags is one question. Another is, maybe they should keep a nose out for any dodgy (er than usual) smells coming from cells, and look out for any prisoners stashing stuff they shouldn't. It does make you wonder how they can hide all these things, when prisons should be pretty basic - rooms lacking any sort of furniture etc. I can't picture the grounds without thinking of American prisons, but I'd assume they should be a bit basic too, afterall teachers at school can point out suspicious behaviour with children in the playground, so you'd think this wouldn't make much difference :P

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I'd much rather they close HMP Ford and build a real prison as opposed to running a holiday camp.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

No no no people you're getting it all wrong, this is an open prison (would you believe they exist, my personal favourite oxymoron) - by being in an open prison which is in other words free housing, we are punishing criminals and ensuring that they will never ever commit crimes again.

So the question 'how did they get alcohol' is rather simple, its an open prison!!

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Yes it's probably easier to get alcohol into the prison but still not that easy? Surely open prisons would still have a pretty strict anti alcohol procedure. Wonder how many inmates are going to be re categorised, a lot of them I hope :)

If its open, they should search Prisoners when they return to the prison. If they are carrying carrier bags around full of booze, surely it wouldn't be that hard?

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Originally Posted by flatface

Yes it's probably easier to get alcohol into the prison but still not that easy? Surely open prisons would still have a pretty strict anti alcohol procedure. Wonder how many inmates are going to be re categorised, a lot of them I hope :)

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Well this is Britain we're talking about, got to be nice to prisoners now to 'rehabilitate' them haven't we? drugs freely circulate in our 'toughest' prisons, with the likes of child-killer Ian Huntley given an Xbox when the very least he deserves is the death penalty or a life setence in an unpleasant prison with no luxaries. But then again, that is against human rights and all the rest of it.

And to top this latest saga of what a joke the British justice system is, guess who will be paying for the damage caused? we all will be. But it doesn't end there oh no, because the majority of these criminal thugs will only reoffend again when let out of HMP 'Holiday Camp' Ford prison causing more misery to the law abiding majority and the process rolls on and on..

And thanks to Europe and our spineless politicians this lot will be getting the vote before long, utterly pathetic.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I'd much rather they close HMP Ford and build a real prison as opposed to running a holiday camp.

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I think (from my understanding) HMP Ford was created to cut costs. My nan coincidently rung me up after I made that post and mentioned it - apparently it was an "aerodrome" where my grandad was based, so I can only really say it was turned into a prison because there was no longer a need for an aerodrome in that area. It must of done a decent job early on in its lifespan, but as society has evolved the prison has kept behind and never developed any further. A problem with whoever manages the prison, rather than prison itself :P It definitely needs redevelopment, or closing altogether but it seems a waste if there are facilities already there, that just need tweaking.

It's a shame the fire didn't produce a few barbecued prisoners.

Only 6 staff members on duty for 500+ inmates? That's over 83 inmates per one prison guard. In my opinion this is were the problem lies, more staff need to be on duty during the night, if that was the case this could of possibly been avoided.

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

I think (from my understanding) HMP Ford was created to cut costs. My nan coincidently rung me up after I made that post and mentioned it - apparently it was an "aerodrome" where my grandad was based, so I can only really say it was turned into a prison because there was no longer a need for an aerodrome in that area. It must of done a decent job early on in its lifespan, but as society has evolved the prison has kept behind and never developed any further. A problem with whoever manages the prison, rather than prison itself :P It definitely needs redevelopment, or closing altogether but it seems a waste if there are facilities already there, that just need tweaking.

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haha I read that wrong and assumed your nan was on habbox forum :P

The whole rehabilitation system needs reform as it's not working. Criminals have already proved on the outside they don't follow rules though so hardly surprising they make their own alcohol!

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Originally Posted by Seriousity,

haha I read that wrong and assumed your nan was on habbox forum :P

The whole rehabilitation system needs reform as it's not working. Criminals have already proved on the outside they don't follow rules though so hardly surprising they make their own alcohol!

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Damn, I tried to avoid that :P Originally it looked like I phoned her up the moment I saw this and got her to comment :P