i thought you'd left...forever?
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i thought you'd left...forever?
I know, my view is quite simple on this: All major parties offered at least a referendum on membership of the EU in their election campaigns or prior to the election in 2010. Therefore there should be a referendum. This country is supposed to be a democracy but how is it democratic if the elected members of parliament can't fulfil promises? I can only credit the 80 or so Conservative rebels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippiewill
Although on the matter of AV, let's remember that was just an easy way to keep the Lib Dems happy, and I ask anybody who plans to continue voting Lib Dem to consider doing so, after all they traded in their Education policies for a voting referendum that got them nowhere.
I don't personally care about the EU issue, I'm neutral on the matter nowadays.
Fine to get rid of dictators in one country but okay to have whips trying to force MPs into voting the way they want rather than what their constituents want! Glad some still have principle although it's nothing new really, there are rebel MPs everywhere (tuition fees increase, for example). We need a new party. Unfortunately I'm not right wing enough to vote UKIP :(
Done and dusted, can we deal with some real issues please?
What are the odds? 1/10000?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathew
It didn't take a genius to see it was never going to be passed, when all three main parties don't want it..
A three-line whip from Labour, the Liberal Democrats and the 'eurosceptic' Tories - if this doesn't tell you something I don't know what will. The three main parties won't give you a vote because they think they know better than you, the silly little people who do not punish them for their continued lies. Not to mention the fact a great deal of them are vouching for EU jobs when they are finished in British politics.
A great well done though to the few Labour and Conservative MPs who did stick up for the electorate tonight.
Like the economy, immigration, the bailouts, taxation, business regulation, general regulation, agriculture, industry, human rights, the courts system, foreign policy and more?......... we can't deal with any of them until we leave the European Union. Now what I want to ask you personally is, since i've shown this time and time again to you and many others with evidence;Quote:
Originally Posted by Technologic
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Great speech by Farage outside parliament to the protest;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEQoo...yer_embedded#!
It was never going to pass, we're not a democracy anymore :P MPs revealed they are forced to share just one view which is why the rebels existed in the first place. All three parties said they would argue over the EU and hold a referendum yet none of them did. It's completely unsurprising.
Good for them though and the ones who resigned their PPS posts to do it. I agree it was never going to pass but the sheer number of them doing it with have some lasting effects I believe on the party itself. They seem to have found some teeth. The weird thing was that Cameron said he agreed with them but it was the wrong time. When is the right time? I do feel that a referendum is something that the people of this country do want and that they should be given that opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Would Direct Democracy REALLY make us that much more democratic?Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
After all, we do vote for the MP's to make the decisions for us..