Boy, 7, branded a racist

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19-02-2012, 01:02 PM
Jordy

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I think you'll find people are more annoyed that schools won't punish those who smash windows and bully other students than forcing a child and his mother to sign a 'racism form' because of an innocent remark. I quite frankly think you've gone completely loopy, here's a child who has made a innocent remark - you know it, I know it - yet we're going to use words like 'racist incident' to describe this? its utterly pathetic.

How about some common sense for a change, an innocent remark from an innocent lad.

Yes the remark didn't intend to offend him but that doesn't make it acceptable, the boy was offended and made a complaint. The lad is then told it is inappropriate as it is racist and his parents informed, he was not punished, or excluded etc. What happened is common sense, just because he didn't intend to be racist doesn't mean he should get away with offending someone. What's utterly pathetic is how twisted this has become and what a normal incident this probably is, yes PC has gone mad but this is not an example of it.

Please don't accuse me of being loopy, I wouldn't usually care about such a petty remark, but that hurts coming from a sad individual who seems completely obsessed with right-wingism and the EU with maddening scepticism and conspiracy theories about pretty much everything with dangerously far right wing views. You're sense of humour is so bad you inadvertently posted a thread quoting the made-up news site The Onion the other day. Am I really the loopy one? ;)
19-02-2012, 01:08 PM
Conspiracy.

It's the Daily Fail, so I'm not going to take it all seriously.

If it is true, then, LOL. He's an innocent seven year old, he didn't mean any harm. When I was a kid I was almost "colour-blind" when it come to race issues. I just seen people as people with darker skin (which is the same as I do now)
19-02-2012, 01:16 PM
dbgtz

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy.

It's the Daily Fail, so I'm not going to take it all seriously.

If it is true, then, LOL. He's an innocent seven year old, he didn't mean any harm. When I was a kid I was almost "colour-blind" when it come to race issues. I just seen people as people with darker skin (which is the same as I do now)

Well even if the article is emphasised heavily in places, it doesn't deny the fact that the smallest things are classed as racism.
19-02-2012, 01:29 PM
kuzkasate

How ironic that his mothers name is Ms White.
19-02-2012, 02:36 PM
GommeInc

I thought it was a good question. It was curiosity, not racism. If someone asked me if I was white because I was American, British or European I woudn't be offended, and do children in Year 5 even pick up on racism if there is no insulting, aggressive tone? I'm not 100% sure if this story is true, it's so obscure and stupid that I'd like to assume it's not true for the sake of the well-being of the education system. If those employed in the educational system do not know what racism is then there is no hope for the new generation of children. Heck, to brand the child racist hints to some sort of racist undertone from the teacher who wields the racist brandishing tool :P

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Originally Posted by Jordy

The lad is then told it is inappropriate as it is racist and his parents informed, he was not punished, or excluded etc.

It isn't. There was no prejudice nor discrimination, and there was no hint that the child asking the question was showing signs that white is right. It was an oddly asked question, not racism. The teacher(s) should have dealt with the situation by informing and reassuring the offended child that it wasn't racist what was asked and try to hold off smacking him for his ignorance and pettiness over the situation, and telling the child who asked the question that he should of worded it better. I don't see how asking someone what their background is can be considered racism, as this is what it boils down to. Multiculturalism only fails because people mistake the meanings of racism and xenophobia, and apply them to situations that are inaccurate of the meanings which only widen the gap between cultures and backgrounds.

The two children could of been sat down together and could of had a good chat about their backgrounds, to learn from the situation and turn what wasn't originally a racist dicussion back on track and have them learn a bit about races and cultures. If the boy who was offended has a strong, British background then perhaps an educational discussion about why that is could of come in. Anything could of been better than wrongly brandishing the racist tool, step toeing around racism doesn't solve it,.
19-02-2012, 05:41 PM
-:Undertaker:-

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Yes the remark didn't intend to offend him but that doesn't make it acceptable, the boy was offended and made a complaint. The lad is then told it is inappropriate as it is racist and his parents informed, he was not punished, or excluded etc. What happened is common sense, just because he didn't intend to be racist doesn't mean he should get away with offending someone. What's utterly pathetic is how twisted this has become and what a normal incident this probably is, yes PC has gone mad but this is not an example of it.

Its not common sense at all, totally overblown for what it is - an innocent mistake.

I asked one of my friends who is black as I was getting to know him, where he or his family came from - he took no offence, I asked out of genuine interest like that lad. If that makes me racist then that makes you bonkers.

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Please don't accuse me of being loopy, I wouldn't usually care about such a petty remark, but that hurts coming from a sad individual who seems completely obsessed with right-wingism and the EU with maddening scepticism and conspiracy theories about pretty much everything with dangerously far right wing views.

I'd ask for examples but I know you're upset because I have a go at the Tory Party nowadays, whereas you just prefered it when I posted about Labour and only Labour.

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Originally Posted by Jordy

You're sense of humour is so bad you inadvertently posted a thread quoting the made-up news site The Onion the other day. Am I really the loopy one? ;)

I knew the Onion article was a joke, but I also know you know that because you've read the thread again - please don't lie.
19-02-2012, 05:56 PM
Catchy

Didn't read it all but didn't really have to. Reallyridiculousand the school is bang out of order for making her sign a form to admit he is a racist? Lmfao, I doubt he even knows the meaning of the word doubt I did age 7.

Maybe the school should take a step back before quickly jumping to conclusions and trying to make the parents feel guilty and take a look at how they handle these issues. Doesn't seem like the kids are being educated on issues such as racism etc and what's deemed wrong and right.

If someone was to ask are you white because you're from England I know for a fact that wouldn't be seen as racist (because it's not) but as soon as the word black comes into the equation it's racism...
19-02-2012, 05:57 PM
jasey

This is absolutely outraging. A small child like that has no capacity to be racist and it's clear he was just asking an innocent question. I would understand this course of action if this happened at a school for teenagers but in this case the school deserves to be given trouble for what they've done to this poor child. Even when I was younger I thought that people with brown skin got that way because they stayed in the sun too long. That's not racism - that's just the natural curiosity and logic of a child.
19-02-2012, 06:05 PM
Jordy

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

I thought it was a good question. It was curiosity, not racism. If someone asked me if I was white because I was American, British or European I woudn't be offended, and do children in Year 5 even pick up on racism if there is no insulting, aggressive tone? I'm not 100% sure if this story is true, it's so obscure and stupid that I'd like to assume it's not true for the sake of the well-being of the education system. If those employed in the educational system do not know what racism is then there is no hope for the new generation of children. Heck, to brand the child racist hints to some sort of racist undertone from the teacher who wields the racist brandishing tool :P

It isn't. There was no prejudice nor discrimination, and there was no hint that the child asking the question was showing signs that white is right. It was an oddly asked question, not racism. The teacher(s) should have dealt with the situation by informing and reassuring the offended child that it wasn't racist what was asked and try to hold off smacking him for his ignorance and pettiness over the situation, and telling the child who asked the question that he should of worded it better. I don't see how asking someone what their background is can be considered racism, as this is what it boils down to. Multiculturalism only fails because people mistake the meanings of racism and xenophobia, and apply them to situations that are inaccurate of the meanings which only widen the gap between cultures and backgrounds.

The two children could of been sat down together and could of had a good chat about their backgrounds, to learn from the situation and turn what wasn't originally a racist dicussion back on track and have them learn a bit about races and cultures. If the boy who was offended has a strong, British background then perhaps an educational discussion about why that is could of come in. Anything could of been better than wrongly brandishing the racist tool, step toeing around racism doesn't solve it,.

There was prejudice assuming he came from Africa, it's as simple as that.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Its not common sense at all, totally overblown for what it is - an innocent mistake.

I asked one of my friends who is black as I was getting to know him, where he or his family came from - he took no offence, I asked out of genuine interest like that lad. If that makes me racist then that makes you bonkers.

I'd ask for examples but I know you're upset because I have a go at the Tory Party nowadays, whereas you just prefered it when I posted about Labour and only Labour.

I knew the Onion article was a joke, but I also know you know that because you've read the thread again - please don't lie.

An innocent mistake yes but that doesn't mean it should be overlooked?I'm just repeating myself here and it's ridiculous everyone in this thread has took the article at face value when he has not been punished or brandished a racist, merely accused of a racist comment.

The days I prefer are when you don't post at all as it's just boring and predictable, the whole entourage thing with Chippiewill is embarrassing too, I've never seen such a sheep. And please don't try turn this around on me and accuse me of lying? Yes I've read your response in this thread;http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=736228

I didn't think it warranted another response, the bottom line is you were foolish enough to post a satirical news site as a source for a made up story. There was not a hint of sarcasm or jokingness in your entire post, and plus this is not a joking section and you have never posted "jokes" before so based on that I can safely conclude you genuinely thought The Onion was a real news source which is incredibly cynical.
19-02-2012, 06:12 PM
-:Undertaker:-

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Originally Posted by Jordy

There was prejudice assuming he came from Africa, it's as simple as that.

Because black people do originate from Africa.

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Originally Posted by Jordy

An innocent mistake yes but that doesn't mean it should be overlooked?I'm just repeating myself here and it's ridiculous everyone in this thread has took the article at face value when he has not been punished or brandished a racist, merely accused of a racist comment.

They attempted to punish him but luckily for him his mother stood up to them and didn't take it.

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Originally Posted by Jordy

The days I prefer are when you don't post at all as it's just boring and predictable, the whole entourage thing with Chippiewill is embarrassing too, I've never seen such a sheep. And please don't try turn this around on me and accuse me of lying? Yes I've read your response in this thread;http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=736228

Oh indeed, its only got boring for you since I started having a go at the Conservative Party and you've got a paddy on. As for Chippiewill, er we've disagreed lots in the past? I don't see why your bringing him into it anyway, you seem really really bitter for some reason. If you're going to have a go at me personally, there's no need to bring him into it.

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Originally Posted by Jordy

I didn't think it warranted another response, the bottom line is you were foolish enough to post a satirical news site as a source for a made up story. There was not a hint of sarcasm or jokingness in your entire post, and plus this is not a joking section and you have never posted "jokes" before so based on that I can safely conclude you genuinely thought The Onion was a real news source which is incredibly cynical.

Because you are telling a lie, for example i've posted the cabbage directive before thinking it was real - that was pointed out to be, I laughed and I admitted I got it wrong in the thread. The Onion though, I know its a joke article because I often read links to it from Ron Paul groups on FB and the internet. So instead of backing down (like I did when I genuinely have had it wrong before), you refuse to.

Hurt pride? its HabboxForum.

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