that's the easy way out.Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyShore
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that's the easy way out.Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyShore
Norway doesn't have the death penalty either.
Yeah, there is no way in hell he will ever be released unless he has a complete and utter change of who he is, and they will be so rigorous in making sure he poses no harm that I feel he will never be released.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zak
It's unlikely he will be released in 10 years into the public... For his protection more than anyone elses - his face is too easily recognisable. Norway might have him spend 10 years in whatever prison they have chosen, then transfer him to a secure location for however many years - either for rehab or for protection. It would be weird if they review him after 10 years and kick him out on the streets. They're likely to have another court hearing for his release to determine what to do (see what the public interests are etc).
Norway hasn't had a case like this before, it's all a guessing game.
It's strange, this has changed the meaning of what is considered criminally insane/sane. Loads of law professors were stating he must be insane because it doesn't conform with what the general public would consider normal, rational behaviour. I suppose the other criteria that he knew exactly what he was doing made him sane in the end. Interesting, but doesn't excuse the fact he's a disgusting human being.
Interesting facts:
- The last person to receive capital punishment in Norway was Kristoffer Nilsen Grindalen in 1875.
- Capital punishment was abolished in 1902 (in force in 1905) in peacetime Norway, and military capital punishment was abolished in 1979.
A disgusting sentence even had he only killed one person, let alone 70 odd. He should have been sentenced to death, as should all those who take the lives of others. You know, often i'm more sickened by the sentences that criminals receive (here as well) rather than the actual crime.
A great deal of talk concerning the Scandinavian tax system, justice system, education system +many more is simply folklore. I haven't looked into the justice part as of yet, but take the high taxation system which is often cited by the left as being a success therefore we should implement it here; yes it's true that Norway/Denmark/Sweden do have high taxation, however they have very low levels of regulation which costs business just as much as tax - however this is never ever stated and we're led to believe that these countries are heaven on earth.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx
If you want to look at a soft justice system and how 'successful' it is, look at our own country where 'rehabilitation' is hailed as a roaring success yet when you look into it, you'll find that the figures are fiddled and shifted about.
Lets hope someone has the decency to dispose of him in prison. Well you can hardly call it prison if he's going to where Matt postedQuote:
Originally Posted by JerseyShore
IM SOOOOOO ANGRY.
"Breivik apologises for not killing more"
SORRY BUT IM FURIOUS HE HASNT BEEN HUNG.
There's no death penalty in Norway. He got the maximum possible sentence, which can, and will, probably be extended.Quote:
Originally Posted by efq
I just worked out via Google, that if you divide 21 by 70 it's 0.3 ... so for each life he took, he's been put away for a mere three months. Absolutely disgusting.
It has been stated time and time again Norway doesn't have the death penalty in this thread, when we say 'he should have been hung' or he deserves death that means we think he ought to be dead regardless of what soft Norwegian judges dish out. I'd also add on the extended bit which you obviously expected to please the likes of myself, that that is also an unacceptable basis for a justice system to work on - scary in fact that a sentence can just be 'extended' at will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
Thank heavens that some of us still believe in common law and reject creepy gimmicks like extended sentences or indefinite detention.
Itīs interesting to read your opinions on this. Iīm from Norway, I was actually in Oslo that day.
As many of you have stated already, Breivik will never be a free man - even after 21 years. Imagine him walking down the streets of Oslo, he probably wouldnīt survive for more than 2 minutes. He is truly one of the most hated persons in Norwegian history..