All 50 States petition to secede

I remember Ron Paul making the statement about two years ago in a video that succession is actually America, it's what helps keep the constitution in check. If you think of federalism (which I don't favour personally, but it works well for America in theory and the past) then the threat of states leaving when the federal government becomes too powerful is exactly what is needed in order to keep the federal government under control.

Judging by the debt and uncontrolled power of the US Federal government, the US needs a lot more talk of succession. I'd also add, that while we may laugh at it not as a not serious idea - when the US Dollar fails (as it will) as the worlds reserve currency then anything is possible, after all, the dissolution of the British Empire happened yet would have been unthinkable to our great grandfathers.

I think Texas alone would be the third strongest economy in the world, something along those lines.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I remember Ron Paul making the statement about two years ago in a video that succession is actually America, it's what helps keep the constitution in check. If you think of federalism (which I don't favour personally, but it works well for America in theory and the past) then the threat of states leaving when the federal government becomes too powerful is exactly what is needed in order to keep the federal government under control.

Judging by the debt and uncontrolled power of the US Federal government, the US needs a lot more talk of succession. I'd also add, that while we may laugh at it not as a not serious idea - when the US Dollar fails (as it will) as the worlds reserve currency then anything is possible, after all, the dissolution of the British Empire happened yet would have been unthinkable to our great grandfathers.

I think Texas alone would be the third strongest economy in the world, something along those lines.

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and Texas is stringently anti-Obama. Interestingly, Obama is against a brick wall as all those who make up the bulk of the US economy did not vote for Obama. He got a large student vote- they don't work, the female vote and a minority vote, which turned up in bulk, yet they only account for a small percentage of people in a country predominantly white and the lower-class vote.

Romney was a bad candidate because he didn't inspire anyone, nor did he deliver anything new, so many actually didn't turn up and vote at all. You have all these powerful people disgruntled by Obama, he's going to be in for a rougher 4 years and potentially end up in the same league as Bush.

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Originally Posted by Grig

and Texas is stringently anti-Obama. Interestingly, Obama is against a brick wall as all those who make up the bulk of the US economy did not vote for Obama. He got a large student vote- they don't work, the female vote and a minority vote, which turned up in bulk, yet they only account for a small percentage of people in a country predominantly white and the lower-class vote.

Romney was a bad candidate because he didn't inspire anyone, nor did he deliver anything new, so many actually didn't turn up and vote at all. You have all these powerful people disgruntled by Obama, he's going to be in for a rougher 4 years and potentially end up in the same league as Bush.

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If you say Obama got the women vote, then Romney got the men vote :P And Obama got 50.6% to Romeny's 47.8% across the country, so obviously more than half of the country does not care about the US economy :P

I hear the Texan petition has reached over 100,000 now.

I wonder whether the senators of those states will comment on the petitions, especially the Texan one. The White House will probably voice one stance for all the petitions, but if they say no then you wonder how much further these petitioners will go.

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Originally Posted by RyRy

I wonder whether the senators of those states will comment on the petitions, especially the Texan one. The White House will probably voice one stance for all the petitions, but if they say no then you wonder how much further these petitioners will go.

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Rick Perry is against seceding, it was brought up several years back and he also made a statement against it the other day.

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

Rick Perry is against seceding, it was brought up several years back and he also made a statement against it the other day.

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Of course he would be, it would be political suicide for any politician to support such a proclamation :P.

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Originally Posted by Grig

Of course he would be, it would be political suicide for any politician to support such a proclamation :P.

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Indeed

Most of the politicians in those states will be against it, since most of the states with big support actually gain a lot off the federal taxation.