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The biggest threat we face right now is the overuse of antibiotics (I believe panorama recently covered this, too). All of these nice little illnesses that we can currently cure so easily could soon end up killing millions...

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And yes, it is sad but the nature of capitalism that a drug will not be released to those who actually need it for a long time given the desire to make a profit out of it.

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And yes, it is sad but the nature of capitalism that a drug will not be released to those who actually need it for a long time given the desire to make a profit out of it.

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Capitalism is what drives healthcare and medicine.

Developed because of capitalism, not despite it.

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Capitalism is what drives healthcare and medicine.

Developed because of capitalism, not despite it.

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Such a shame that it developed because of capitalism and yet millions die because of it, too (and your position on foreign aid would let millions more die, too!).

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Such a shame that it developed because of capitalism and yet millions die because of it, too

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Die because of what?

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and your position on foreign aid would let millions more die, too!.

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Well no, because my position on foreign aid is that foreign aid doesn't work. I believe in trade and not aid, which is another reason why I believe we'd be better outside of the European Union and signing FTAs with former Commonwealth countries which are often the nations which recieve a lot of our foreign aid. I would much rather be seeing cheap African agricultural products in our supermarket than subsidised French goods: something that would hugely benefit African farmers rather than handing over foreign aid packages which usually end up being used as political weapons/lost due to sheer corruption/damaging African farmers.

It's a nonsense to believe that somebody who opposes foreign aid opposes development in the third world. My belief is aid hurts, rather than helps.

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Die because of what?



Well no, because my position on foreign aid is that foreign aid doesn't work. I believe in trade and not aid, which is another reason why I believe we'd be better outside of the European Union and signing FTAs with former Commonwealth countries which are often the nations which recieve a lot of our foreign aid. I would much rather be seeing cheap African agricultural products in our supermarket than subsidised French goods: something that would hugely benefit African farmers rather than handing over foreign aid packages which usually end up being used as political weapons/lost due to sheer corruption/damaging African farmers.

It's a nonsense to believe that somebody who opposes foreign aid opposes development in the third world. My belief is aid hurts, rather than helps.

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My suggestion is without good health nations will not develop. Without money people cannot buy vaccines, only the rich. This means people will continually fall ill. This means more deaths. Incidentally, this also increases the poverty as families will have more children, in case some die.

This could all be stopped if people had access to vital vaccines. Which they don't.

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My suggestion is without good health nations will not develop. Without money people cannot buy vaccines, only the rich. This means people will continually fall ill. This means more deaths. Incidentally, this also increases the poverty as families will have more children, in case some die.

This could all be stopped if people had access to vital vaccines. Which they don't.

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Well that's what economic development is, it doesn't fall out of the sky.

If you want good healthcare to develop in these countries then first you need political stability, you need an economic capitalist policy based on enterprise and no subsidies for special interest groups or failing industries and you need a culture of institutionalism in the country. AKA what we developed during our Industrial Revolution, what the Germans did, the French, the Dutch and later Singapore, Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan and mainland China.

But it doesn't come from handing it out on a plate and encouraging eternal dependence.

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Well that's what economic development is, it doesn't fall out of the sky.

If you want good healthcare to develop in these countries then first you need political stability, you need an economic capitalist policy based on enterprise and no subsidies for special interest groups or failing industries and you need a culture of institutionalism in the country. AKA what we developed during our Industrial Revolution, what the Germans did, the French, the Dutch and later Singapore, Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan and mainland China.

But it doesn't come from handing it out on a plate and encouraging eternal dependence.

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My reference is to vaccines being purchased with foreign aid. This really is important - what is the point in a vaccine where the vast majority of the world who actually need it, can't have it?