Tory Civil War: Suella Braverman sacked & replaced by The Lord Cameron as Foreign Sec

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Originally Posted by Seatherny

OMG 3-4 MPs do not confidence in the MP. MPs... the people with zero morals and the people who only care about their salary. MPs who actually do nothing and get paid. My God they are scared to lose their seats and free money so are trying to seek attention, how could this be possible?!

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It's actually about principles. Millions of voters who had never voted Conservative in their lives turned to the party in 2017 and 2019 to deliver border controls and common sense government. Instead we've had records levels of legal and illegal immigration, with Hamas/Islamist supporters being given free rein over our streets by cowardly Police. The party is heading for under 150 seats with this empty man as the helm, and the failures and weaklings like Hunt and Lord Cameron he's surrounded himself with. He needs to go.

Julia gives her verdict after Rishi Sunak sacked Suella Braverman as Home Secretary.

“She is the person saying ‘the house is on fire’ and you get rid of her, you blame her, you say ‘she is the problem’, but you ignore the arsonists. You’re part of the problem!”@JuliaHB1 pic.twitter.com/QKChoNL4Bq

— Talk (@TalkTV) November 13, 2023

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Originally Posted by Seatherny

Remove Rishi and we continue to be the laughing stock of the world.

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We're already the laughing stock of the world with a PM who can't grapple with major issues like border control, jihadists marching on the streets of the capital and unable to finish a railway line, who instead spends his time passing legislation banning cigarettes and legislating for hypothetical driverless cars in 2030. He's a dud who has never had to fight to get where he is, having been gifted the premiership. He was never wanted nor was Hunt who also lost a leadership election.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

We're already the laughing stock of the world with a PM who can't grapple with major issues like border control, jihadists marching on the streets of the capital and unable to finish a railway line, who instead spends his time passing legislation banning cigarettes and legislating for hypothetical driverless cars in 2030. He's a dud who has never had to fight to get where he is, having been gifted the premiership. He was never wanted nor was Hunt who also lost a leadership election.

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Failure of HS2 is failure of previous governments and red tape. You can't blame Rishi who has been in power for 12 months. HS2 planning started in 2013... 10 years ago.

Legislation banning cigarettes is very good. It will promote a healthier population while saving NHS money in the future. You want to smoke and kill yourself? Go ahead but don't use my tax money to expect free medical care when you knowingly caused yourself cancer. I mean the packets literally have photos!

Problem with people like you, can never be happy, will always want things for yourself and not the country.

Since BREXIT, doing business with NI is a hassle with a load of paperwork. We don't entertain NI customers and NI customers find it a headache to deal with mainland UK companies. You don't own a business, you don't even work in the UK so I wouldn't expect you to understand.

New poll out just now tonight below.

Lord Cameron's return to the wonderful Sunak-Hunt government a stunningly popular move with the public! :'(

19% was what the Tories polled on the day Liz Truss resigned as Prime Minister...

🚨 BREAKING: Labour is ahead of the Tories by 30 POINTS after the Sunak's reshuffle

Labour: 49%
Conservative: 19%
Reform UK: 11%
Lib Dems: 9%
Green: 7%@PeoplePolling, 1,581 people
Surveyed after PM's reshuffle yesterday

— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) November 14, 2023

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Originally Posted by Seatherny

Failure of HS2 is failure of previous governments and red tape. You can't blame Rishi who has been in power for 12 months. HS2 planning started in 2013... 10 years ago.

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Sunak just cancelled a railway line that was half built, now we can argue it was a waste of money from the get go (I did) but the fact remains that all the land was bought up at huge expense and half the line is built already, so for gods sake at least let's get a completed railway line out of it. But what did Sunak do? Cancelled it, not only that he's intent on selling off the land at fire-sale prices so that no future government can resurrect the project.

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Originally Posted by Seatherny

Legislation banning cigarettes is very good. It will promote a healthier population while saving NHS money in the future. You want to smoke and kill yourself? Go ahead but don't use my tax money to expect free medical care when you knowingly caused yourself cancer. I mean the packets literally have photos!

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There are many things that cause health problems but you do not ban everything in a free society.

In any case, this adds to my point. He's keen to have his finger on the ban and draconian button when it comes to trivial issues like smoking, but when it comes to illegal immigrants flooding the country across the channel, or Hamas Islamists marching in London he's nowhere to be found. He's utterly weak and unfit for the job, and his values - whatever they are - don't align at all with what millions of people who voted Tory in 2019 want to see.

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Originally Posted by Seatherny

Problem with people like you, can never be happy, will always want things for yourself and not the country.

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I was against HS2 and I don't smoke.

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Originally Posted by Seatherny

Since BREXIT, doing business with NI is a hassle with a load of paperwork. We don't entertain NI customers and NI customers find it a headache to deal with mainland UK companies. You don't own a business, you don't even work in the UK so I wouldn't expect you to understand.

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I'm sorry the EU has been giving your company problems with it's insane Customs Union and Single Market red tape. I did warn you, and I also warned that any Customs barrier should be on the island of Ireland itself with the Republic, not down the Irish Sea. You didn't listen and insisted on dancing to the EU's tune when it comes to Customs + SM regulations, ie swallowing whatever they demanded.

You accepted partial EU dominion in our internal economic affairs whereas I advocated No Deal, so drink it up.

Another poll has Tories at 19% On these numbers the Tories would be reduced to 62 seats and the PM himself would lose his seat.

Huge fallout today from the Rwanda plan falling apart. Government totally unable to control our borders and we can all see it. Weak.

Second poll in a row showing the Tories on 19%.
This "liberal conservatism" stuff doesn't seem to be landing very well. https://t.co/5Yz2z2pfeE

— Patrick O'Flynn (@oflynnsocial) November 15, 2023

Suella Braverman spot on as always.

Today’s Supreme Court judgment is no surprise. It was predicted by a number of people close to the process. Given the current state of the law, there is no reason to criticise the judges. Instead, the government must introduce emergency legislation. 1/3

— Suella Braverman (@SuellaBraverman) November 15, 2023

The Bill must block off ECHR, HRA, and other routes of legal challenge. This will give Parliament a clear choice: control illegal migration or explain to the British people why they should accept ever greater numbers of illegal arrivals settling here. 2/3

— Suella Braverman (@SuellaBraverman) November 15, 2023

Those who - like me - believe that effective immigration control is vital must understand that they cannot have their cake and eat it: there is no chance of curbing illegal migration within the current legal framework. We must legislate or admit defeat. 3/3

— Suella Braverman (@SuellaBraverman) November 15, 2023

There are now 12,000 foreign criminals walking around freely in Britain, the authorities unable to deport them. This includes many very violent offenders, and some have already gone on to reoffend https://t.co/uPDrkhNyxz

— Ed West (@edwest) November 15, 2023

Tory revolt continues to grow....

BREAKING As many as six Conservative MPs are set to submit letters of no confidence in Rishi Sunak’s leadership of the Conservative Party this week, rebel Tory MP Dame Andrea Jenkyns tells @GBNEWS. Tune in now.

— Christopher Hope📝 (@christopherhope) November 15, 2023

NEW:

*A group of Tory MPs met at the 5 Hertford Street private members club in Mayfair this week where they agreed to send no confidence letters in Rishi Sunak and try to coordinate more from colleagues in a plot to remove the prime minister*https://t.co/EGOoFnTfZG

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) November 15, 2023

🚨 NEW: Suella Braverman's allies are threatening to drop a "grid of sh*t" on Rishi Sunak today and the coming days to bring him down

[@JamesTapsfield]

— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) November 15, 2023

💥👀 So,,,c60 MPs in Commonsense/New Cons group + another 20 MPs would back leaving ECHR

Asked a v senior former cab min if, in the event of the PM deciding not to pursue leaving ECHR (if emergency law fail) whether he’d face a confidence vote, they said: “That’s very plausible”

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) November 15, 2023

Danny Kruger: "This feels absolutely existential for our party." https://t.co/w5yvPunHx3

— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) November 15, 2023

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

There are many things that cause health problems but you do not ban everything in a free society.

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Well, lets legalise guns and carrying knives, because you know, free society.

I won't bother responding to your other nonsense comments. I am sure even you know how ridiculous they are and I would suggest you stop making yourself look like a fool in public.