But, I don't belive in god therefore I don't believe in his sins.Quote:
Originally Posted by asher_
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But, I don't belive in god therefore I don't believe in his sins.Quote:
Originally Posted by asher_
Go to your local zoo and exsplain to me what you see the gorillas doing...Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStratocas
I'd say both of you are right, man used intelligence[what intelligence man had back then compared to now ;p] and from that intelligence it helped us to evolve because of the diet.
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Originally Posted by 01101101entor
Throwing poop at eachother? Other than hitting rocks, I dont see tools.
We came from apes (no arguements from anyone), and they are still eating fruit. Why arent they dead like we would be if we ate fruit?
We didn't come from apes, we're a completely different species. We were similar to apes but we weren't apes.
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Originally Posted by RedStratocas
Well throwing poop is useing tools? there useing it as a projectil, hence a tool from hitting another animal "/
They ask use rocks to smash there food, Thats also a tool..
We didnt come from apes? we were seperated from that gene pool 100s of 1000s of years before apes came around, every veraint of the species that went on to become humans has now died out from ostralapithcus threw the meanderfiles.Quote:
We came from apes (no arguements from anyone), and they are still eating fruit. Why arent they dead like we would be if we ate fruit?
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Originally Posted by Vixen43
I already said no arguements. Sorry, but that case is over, really. It makes perfect sense.
Haha yeah that is a funny thing to think about..Quote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
but adam and eve suposedly had 2 boys, Kane and Able i think and one killed the other...
now I dont know how the one who was still alive reproduced...
can someone who knows the bible explain this??
I am not really into any religion but like to ask some questions.
Leviticus 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
OK, here's the deal.
1) I'm real
2) It's a sin for a man and a man to have seexual intercourse; both of them have committed an abomination
3) It's a sin to masturrbate
4) Humans did not evolve from monkeys
5) Mary was a virgin all her life
No, it is illogical and inconsistent. Why don't species become another species anymore? Evolution exists but not in the species becoming another species way.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStratocas
mankind includes both men and woman, so no sex for anyone if where sticking to that, plus i expsect your animal sacrive is late so your going to hell anyway, also you may be smited a few times "/Quote:
Originally Posted by asher_
Okay. Being gay is not a sin, having gay sex is.
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Originally Posted by BL!NKEY
No one really knows for sure, the only solution is in the fact that Adam and Eve possibly had more than two children. According to the context, they had a 'large' family. In Genesis it says Adam became father to another son named Seth and then, it mentions in the following verse ''He became father to sons and daughters.'' I'm guessing Cain could have married one of his sisters of nieces... which is pretty strange but hey.
Wasn't it Cain that went off anyway and like was a 'bad apple' shall we say?Quote:
Originally Posted by asher_
I love you all; I hate the sins you commit.
I don't know too much about Cain apart from him having a son called Enoch and living in a land of Nod.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig
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Originally Posted by Vixen43
Evolution takes time, and evolution is still happening. We are getting smarter, thats evolution in itself.
It takes thousands of years for a change to occur, and how those changes occur make perfect sense and are proven.
I don't believe in god. I just think its a piece of matter.
I think we should make decisions ourselfs. Not listen to others. In the end its us we're talking about ;D
Homosexuality has a made a big affect on everyone. I think its fine and without it their wouldnt be any diversity. Women and man and thats it. Now theirs homosexuality theirs something to think about if you get me lols x]
Actually its just ****, isn't it? So if hetrosexual couples have **** its a sin still.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vixen43
To be honest I don't see enough proof to show 'God' even exists (Im agnostic). In my opinon there is nothing at all wrong with homosexuality, you don't choose who you fall in love with, it just happens. Beside being involved with the same gender doesn't harm anyone so I don't see why it's a sin, also if 'God' did exist and he thought homosexuality was a sin why did he let humans have the choice? Why didn't he just program there brains not to have such thoughts or feelings..after all he is ment to be omnipotent.
If you love someone should it really matter if the person is the same gender or not? I say no. I don't see why people have to make such a big deal over it.
Look up sex in the dictionary. (Everything I would say would be asteriked out if I just wrote it here.) It's impossible without 2 things. Otherwise, its not sex. So gay people can do whatever they want with eachother.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vixen43
Now i know why its called sodomy
can you imagine if it were called Gommorahy
If he did exist he gave Human's free will that way people can choose the right path and be rewarded or choose the bad path and cause suffering =/Quote:
Originally Posted by Punky
Being omnipotent has nothing to do with not being able to program brains I mean if he could create this whole universe and this race and everything pretty much I'm sure he could handle some brain control.
And people have opinions about homosexuality and I'd rather they had an opinion and said it than not say it but think it. I myself have no problem with Homosexuality.
Yeh but why bother? If killing and stealing and homosexuality etc... is sinful why give people the choice to do it? If you give people the choice how can you say weather its right or wrong? If something is wrong why give the them the choice to do it...If your giving them the choice how can they know if its wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig
I'm not sure if I'm making sence or if what I'm trying to say is actually coming out right.... Meh >.<
Well life is only part of the 'process' and afterlife is a pretty big part of the process. And you can say if it's right or wrong because the right one will be the one that causes the least suffering,is the least selfish and other reasons like that. They are given the choice to do wrong so they know right from wrong and can repent or proceed to do wrong and pay in the afterlife. And they will know it's wrong because of the suffering caused in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punky
Yeh but how will they know what will happen in the future? How can they know that they're actions will cause suffering? If they just get given a choice without knowing the consiquences how can they know if it's right or wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig
Okay I'm going to stop posting on here now else I'll be typing up the essays I did in 'R.S-Philosophy and Ethics'.... Which I don't really want to do lol...
Just to let people know I'm not against religion or anything, I just don't see enough proof so please don't start flaming me :).
Well, maybe it is a sin if you believe in God.
They won't know what exactly will happen in the future but if they think about decisions and which will cause more suffering through their own actions. Like I know that if I had an enemy for example I could talk it out with him or punch him and could hurt him, which is causing suffering where as talking is the correct method that won't cause suffering! I love Philosophy + Ethics,taking it as an A-Level in just about a months time but have already done some previous research;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Punky
And proof isn't always needed but the Evolution theory is rather splendid ;p
It's a very good course!!! I did it at ALevel :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig
I'm really going now lol
Lol have fun!
What sort of topics did you study in the course[For when you get back and all:P]
And urmm I forgot his name but on to what Piro said, one Philosopher thought[his name was french sounding i think] that if you ;
believed in god and god existed you would be rewarded
didnt believe in god and god existed you'd be punished.
believed in god and didnt exist you basically wasted your life
didnt believe in god and didnt exist then nothing really.
God gave humans the gift of free will, with the intentions of each human being unique and special and living their own life. Of course with free will, this lead those to stray from what God believed was right, in this case, sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex being sinful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punky
In regards to love, yeah it's completely unconditional, however alot of people sadly don't see it that way.
Well humans evloved.. They were not created by some big guy in white. The big bang created the universe. So people are free to do what they like.. Also you wouldent obey rules the someone you have never met on the other side of the world of created? So why should you obey rules that are in a book that most likely some guy with a over exsited imagination wrote about God and Jesus.
Also lets say you are a christian, how do you know you are beliving in the right religon, thats if there it any true religions at all..
There is no full sientific evidence that God created the world or even Jesus exsited.. (Same applys to other religions). The only thing be have full proof for is the big bang and that we evlolved. IF a scientist by unquestionable doubt and other people support it proves that one of the religions is a true religion (However unliky it is) then, yes I will support it. Untill then I am with the big bang & the evolution idea.
If God was in control of the world, then why wouldent he make eveyone belive in him...
O.o, Why would god care if you were gay? If he's real
No offence, but I don't like christainit (sp?) for what they did to wiccan's in the burning times. And that most of them try to convert me to christainit (sp?).
Who made us then?Quote:
Originally Posted by 01101101entor
Dong go on about evolution, because then who made the first creature.
There is a lot more to this world than we think
Theres also no evidence to prove that the 'big bang theory' is the reason we're all here :/ heh as if.
0.o evilotion a abiogenisis have nothing to do with each other, theres just far to many idiots who confuse the subjects.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMB-Hosting
Evilotion is a proccess on which life adapts to suite its surroundings. it has ABOSULTY NOTHING to do whith the creation of life, Thats a COMPLEATY diffent topic "/
Thats like asking a lumberjack how to cut down a tree and saying his method is wrong becuse Humans dont reporoduce Asexualy "/ Its stupid...
No one made us? or the first creature? or the Earth, Or the Universe, Its all part of a proccess "/
Plus just give an idea how stupid that comment was? Then who created god..
Backgorund radiation? Redshift?Quote:
Originally Posted by asher_
Heres one you can do at home.
At night look out your window at the stars, since theres inifate stars, if we have been here forever, light from everyone one would have reached us.
Since we can only see a few, that kinda proves we have only been here a finite lengh of time "/ althogh does prove its at least 6 billion of so years "/
We did about Abortion, Euthanasia, Utiliterianism, (the ethics and philosophy behide each one). We did about the philosophy of religion. We did loads about what different philosophers said about Gods exisitance or nonexistance. But to do the course you have to be very open minded and be able to look at the subjects from a believers and non believers point of view. All the essays you do need to have points form both sides, thats why I loved the course. As I'm agnostic and don't truely believe or not believe in God I was able to see points from both perspectives. Anyway you should enjoy it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Craig
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Originally Posted by 01101101entor
God by definition is the uncreated creator of the universe, so asking 'Who created God?' is completely illogical.
Says you God!!!!! oh hahahahaha