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31-07-2006, 03:24 PM
DaveTaylor

shut up! mines never broke mines got dents in it mines even before the mini :@
31-07-2006, 03:26 PM
Kukuthebird

I'd choose the zen.
31-07-2006, 03:26 PM
GommeInc

My friends iPod Nano hs something wrong with the sound, it comes out too loud in the right ear and distorts.

My brothers girlfriends iPod locked and could never be played with again. It just sat there, always on.

The only good iPod is the mini "/ But Apple stopped them and anything after them were crap. Although my brothers girlfriend's iPod was a mini, which was also engraved. Plus, as said, there is a reason to why they give free replacements "/

And the iPod should never of existed but Apple were using power to win the rights to make a music side to the Apple Company, even though they said they would never and now there is a nice argument with 2 Apple companies fighting about it.
31-07-2006, 03:29 PM
DaveTaylor

gommeinc your ****ing me off now :@
31-07-2006, 03:30 PM
GommeInc

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostgreSQL

gommeinc your ****ing me off now :@

And why? I think someones angry... :rolleyes: Is it because I won that argument? The iPod is ok, but not the best. I find the Creative Zen better than the iPod, at least it is ment to exist "/
31-07-2006, 03:33 PM
DaveTaylor

no just because you think you know everything, the fact was the mini wasnt surpose to even come out apple said it was the deisng base for the 3G my ipod they decided to bring it out for reason which i cant remember also the 3 G ipod my one has been used daiuly since i got in 4 years ago it has a dented harddrive aswell i hhave never need to change the battery or anything, the fact is your making up BS saying they break often etc if you look at how the ones that are broken are treated they have been droped etc on numerous ammounts
31-07-2006, 03:35 PM
GommeInc

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostgreSQL

no just because you think you know everything, the fact was the mini wasnt surpose to even come out apple said it was the deisng base for the 3G my ipod they decided to bring it out for reason which i cant remember also the 3 G ipod my one has been used daiuly since i got in 4 years ago it has a dented harddrive aswell i hhave never need to change the battery or anything, the fact is your making up BS saying they break often etc if you look at how the ones that are broken are treated they have been droped etc on numerous ammounts

How can I be making it up when I have seen these broken iPods :rolleyes: My brothers girlfriends iPod was brand new you tardis! It just stopped working! Jeez, and you say I make up things :rolleyes: My friends Nano hasn't even been dropped, he keeps it in the case it comes with "/

Plus how can I be making up aload of BS about the 2 Apple Companies?! Go check BBC.co.uk or any other news website "/ Idiot

Plus, I have 2 Creative MP3 Products and have played with iPods in the past, sound and quality is best with the Creative Zens. Games and strange features is good for the iPod.
31-07-2006, 03:38 PM
DaveTaylor

fact is i aint makin up BS alot of the stuff in my house is from apple as my dad loves the company to much and i mean way to much, he keeps track of all the news from apple etc, so don't even think of trying that wtih me
31-07-2006, 03:42 PM
GommeInc

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostgreSQL

fact is i aint makin up BS alot of the stuff in my house is from apple as my dad loves the company to much and i mean way to much, he keeps track of all the news from apple etc, so don't even think of trying that wtih me

I am confused, so your dad has records of my friends and my brothers girlfriend? You made up BS about their iPods not being broken "/ Plus, it is true that the iPod shouldn't exist. Here is the low down:

There is a music company called Apple, which existed before Apple Mac. This company was a record company for the band called "The Beatles." When Apple Mac came about, they asked for the name "Apple," and they were given it, as long as they don't do ANYTHING with music. But did the big headed Apple Company listen? Not really no. They made the Apple iPod, which is something to do with music. And ever since, there has been legal battles between the 2 companies, and I back up the company that is right and not wrong, one reason why I hate iPods is because the company behind them used their 'power' because they are a huge company to see over run the samller Apple company so they can have music.
31-07-2006, 03:43 PM
Kukuthebird

Quote:

Originally Posted by GommeInc

My friends iPod Nano hs something wrong with the sound, it comes out too loud in the right ear and distorts.

My brothers girlfriends iPod locked and could never be played with again. It just sat there, always on.

The only good iPod is the mini "/ But Apple stopped them and anything after them were crap. Although my brothers girlfriend's iPod was a mini, which was also engraved. Plus, as said, there is a reason to why they give free replacements "/

And the iPod should never of existed but Apple were using power to win the rights to make a music side to the Apple Company, even though they said they would never and now there is a nice argument with 2 Apple companies fighting about it.

i agree. they always usually brake.

it's like they wont it to break so you want to replace it and they get money.
31-07-2006, 03:47 PM
GommeInc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resilience

i agree. they always usually brake.

it's like they wont it to break so you want to replace it and they get money.

The funny thing is though, they don't get money. They replace them for free. Which must mean the iPod is extremely cheap to buiild (which is probably why they break anyway) or Apple are stupid enough to not care or don't mind wasting money.
31-07-2006, 04:03 PM
PWF

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostgreSQL

gommeinc your ****ing me off now :@

YES BECAUSE HES RIGHT!:p

i had my ipod mini for about 6 months then it stopped working rang up apple they sent me a box sent it off came back still broke! i needed to send mine off 9 times! and had loads of phone calls! then they must of used there brains (scarey really) and sent me a new one it took me 4 months to sell my mini and i had loads of adds up for £90 then £50 and no one would buy it (wonder why?) then i sold it to my mum:p

doesnt apple have that logo because the dude poinsed it and ate it cos he realised what he had made? wish all of apple would do it
31-07-2006, 04:05 PM
DMB-Hosting

Get the zend i persioally thi ipods are over rated
31-07-2006, 04:05 PM
Rui

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWF

YES BECAUSE HES RIGHT!:p

i had my ipod mini for about 6 months then it stopped working rang up apple they sent me a box sent it off came back still broke! i needed to send mine off 9 times! and had loads of phone calls! then they must of used there brains (scarey really) and sent me a new one it took me 4 months to sell my mini and i had loads of adds up for £90 then £50 and no one would buy it (wonder why?) then i sold it to my mum:p

doesnt apple have that logo because the dude poinsed it and ate it cos he realised what he had made? wish all of apple would do it

i have a player I bought in HK market for £10 it is good! 512 mebyes and it has my music by jusing timberlake
31-07-2006, 04:45 PM
RedStratocas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troubling

also the ipod looks better and is more world renowned when you wack it out everyones like woooow is that an ipod video

Ipods dont look better:rolleyes: . Ive had people staring at my Zen Micro when I start switching songs. Creative makes some of the slickest looking players

And dont take into account how much space they have, they both fit all the songs you'll ever listen to:rolleyes:

My brother has an ipod video, it has tons of problems. And no one say "then look up directions to fix it"-- the point is that it isnt supposed to be broken in the first place

For the record Gomme is right, the iPod technically never should have existed.
31-07-2006, 04:50 PM
Y!

iPod, my mate's Zen broke he got a replacement and it broke again so he never got it again!
31-07-2006, 04:50 PM
Craig

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedStratocas

Ipods dont look better:rolleyes: . Ive had people staring at my Zen Micro when I start switching songs. Creative makes some of the slickest looking players

And dont take into account how much space they have, they both fit all the songs you'll ever listen to:rolleyes:

My brother has an ipod video, it has tons of problems. And no one say "then look up directions to fix it"-- the point is that it isnt supposed to be broken in the first place

For the record Gomme is right, the iPod technically never should have existed.

So I'm geussing your saying I should get the Creative Zen? Any good things about them seeing as you have a Creative? :]
31-07-2006, 04:53 PM
JonJon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig

So I'm geussing your saying I should get the Creative Zen? Any good things about them seeing as you have a Creative? :]

Craig, just get the Zen. :)
31-07-2006, 04:59 PM
RedStratocas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig

So I'm geussing your saying I should get the Creative Zen? Any good things about them seeing as you have a Creative? :]

It isnt the same type of Zen, but I love it. Im not sure if you can do this with the ipod, but you can make your own playlist right on the player, no need to do it with mediasource. Mine has radio, which you can record. Very scratch-resistant. Ive had it for a year with no case, it still looks brand new.
31-07-2006, 05:18 PM
IDK

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedStratocas

It isnt the same type of Zen, but I love it. Im not sure if you can do this with the ipod, but you can make your own playlist right on the player, no need to do it with mediasource. Mine has radio, which you can record. Very scratch-resistant. Ive had it for a year with no case, it still looks brand new.

You can do that on the iPod too :]
31-07-2006, 05:37 PM
RedStratocas

Quote:

Originally Posted by BARKSEHISFIT

You can do that on the iPod too :]

Wasent aware. Still, Zens are better:P
31-07-2006, 05:54 PM
GommeInc

Indeed. The Creative Zen Vision M which I think Craig was thinking about is good and I had the Zen which looked like the mini, which was called Zen, nothing else.

With my Vision M you can also record TV straight onto it apparently, although I have yet to try doing that...
31-07-2006, 06:07 PM
Kukuthebird

Quote:

Originally Posted by GommeInc

The funny thing is though, they don't get money. They replace them for free. Which must mean the iPod is extremely cheap to buiild (which is probably why they break anyway) or Apple are stupid enough to not care or don't mind wasting money.

lol never knew that x]

thanks.
31-07-2006, 06:46 PM
Menshevik

Get the iPod because they have a steel frame.
They're easy to use, Zens are harder and I don't even know how to work them.
iPod are a more trusted brand, who invented the Zen anyways?!
iPod were around first, so they would be the most developed software.
I have an iPod and I love it.
31-07-2006, 06:54 PM
PWF

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus

Get the iPod because they have a steel frame.
They're easy to use, Zens are harder and I don't even know how to work them.
iPod are a more trusted brand, who invented the Zen anyways?!
iPod were around first, so they would be the most developed software.
I have an iPod and I love it.

a steel frame woo thats good! u get all finger prints over the back then!:P
Zens are more user friendly!
erm no ipods always break everyone i know who owns a ipod has had a problem with it
Zen had the idea of a click wheel or touch pad i think it well the thing u use to pick songs and stuff zen thought of that and apple stole
and zens were around first if u look and has more MP3 players out
31-07-2006, 08:44 PM
GommeInc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus

Get the iPod because they have a steel frame.
They're easy to use, Zens are harder and I don't even know how to work them.
iPod are a more trusted brand, who invented the Zen anyways?!
iPod were around first, so they would be the most developed software.
I have an iPod and I love it.

Steel frame? Wow how great that will be for the player! Imagine the sounds quality because it has a steal frame!
Zens aren't really that hard to use "/ Depends how slow you are to learn things.
They're for more sexier than an iPod.
iPods break easy, and apparently if you sit on a Nano it snaps...
Creative Labs created the Zen ;)
And if Apple stole it, that's two major things I dislike about them "/
31-07-2006, 08:47 PM
Diablo10

i droped my ipod 10 centimetres from the ground it broke! My friende has a zen and it dropped even hiher it dident brake
31-07-2006, 08:51 PM
Callum.

It's not what we like Craig, its what you like ;).
31-07-2006, 08:56 PM
PWF

Quote:

Originally Posted by GommeInc

Steel frame? Wow how great that will be for the player! Imagine the sounds quality because it has a steal frame!
Zens aren't really that hard to use "/ Depends how slow you are to learn things.
They're for more sexier than an iPod.
iPods break easy, and apparently if you sit on a Nano it snaps...
Creative Labs created the Zen ;)
And if Apple stole it, that's two major things I dislike about them "/

ye search it on bbc.co.uk
31-07-2006, 09:01 PM
Craig

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyNameIsCallum!

It's not what we like Craig, its what you like ;).

Calum,had you read my whole first post you would have noticed the;

Quote:

No I am not requesting which one to get based on your opinions but based on the facts that are presented of which would be a better, more suitable and more efficient music player

which I said in the first post,I wanted to know what the players are like from a first hand experience,not from what other people would like;)
31-07-2006, 09:02 PM
IDK

iPod Mini's are pretty good and robust, I dropped it plenty of times out of my pocket and it was fine.. until it went through the washing machine.
31-07-2006, 09:05 PM
GommeInc

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWF

ye search it on bbc.co.uk

Never knew iPod stole Creative patent technology :o More reason to dislike them!
31-07-2006, 09:10 PM
PWF

Quote:

Originally Posted by GommeInc

Never knew iPod stole Creative patent technology :o More reason to dislike them!

lol i saw a book on amazon i think
100 bad things about apple
31-07-2006, 09:21 PM
edible

QUICK GET N0.2
31-07-2006, 09:48 PM
i luv ross

Quote:

Originally Posted by GommeInc

The funny thing is though, they don't get money. They replace them for free. Which must mean the iPod is extremely cheap to buiild (which is probably why they break anyway) or Apple are stupid enough to not care or don't mind wasting money.

I read about that, they cost like £50 ish to make each and they sell them for like £100+. ;| Someone's making easy money.
31-07-2006, 09:51 PM
Billay

Quote:

Originally Posted by GommeInc

Apple store as in the shop? They have internet?! And Apple always give free replacements, iPods are known to break easily...

i can't tell if your serious or sarcastic but yes they have internet in them and if your iPod is under warranty they will replace it.
01-08-2006, 01:40 AM
BL!NKEY

I would go with an iPod.

Ive had an iPod for 4 years and it still works fine.

Never had a problem except some of the metal comming off from the white front but It just pops back into place and is no big deal.

But I wouldnt get the iPod video yet.

If you can waite a little bit, I think soon Apple will come out with a true video iPod which will have a touch screen and a bigger display that takes up the whole front.

My friends have that video iPod that you were looking at and havent had problems.

If you are worried about scratches then get a case and you will be fine.

But if you can waite I would. This model iPod has been out for a long time and most of the rumor sites are hinting at a true video iPod in the near future.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GommeInc

Apple store as in the shop? They have internet?! And Apple always give free replacements, iPods are known to break easily...

Yeah the apple stores are the best. I was at one last week in new york

They have comuters and ipods spread out through the whole store just to try.

They have a help center with like 20 booths and people waite in line to get advice on like tricks to make slide shows or any questions you have.

Here are some pictures of the store its great

http://www.dexigner.com/images/content/news/8288.jpg
http://images.appleinsider.com/retail-fifth-ave-pr2.jpg
01-08-2006, 01:54 AM
RedStratocas

Quote:

Originally Posted by i luv ross

I read about that, they cost like £50 ish to make each and they sell them for like £100+. ;| Someone's making easy money.

I wouldnt be suprised if they cost less than that

Coke actually costs 4 cents in total. The most expencive thing in coke is the ink on the lable. Same with CD's
01-08-2006, 09:32 AM
GommeInc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billay

i can't tell if your serious or sarcastic but yes they have internet in them and if your iPod is under warranty they will replace it.

Serious. Never known them to put internet on Macs/Computers in store. I always thought they were trying to sell the computer, not the internet.

And at BL!NKEY. Some iPods can last ages, but loads don't. You are lucky if you have had it work that long! I think Creatve Labs has a Video Player already out that does all that, called the Creative Zen Vision. It has a huge screen but might be hard to card around. So the Creative Zen Vision: M is probably more pratical.

I think iPods are mainly big lumps of plastic nowadays, the Nano has a lump of plastic on the back that has been sprayed metalic. No wonder why it apparently snaps easily...
01-08-2006, 09:59 AM
dark-as-death

Zen, ipods can cause major problems and can break easily also Zen looks better @D

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