Habbo don't give two craps about values, they only care about making money. More Rares = More Money.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2hd.
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Habbo don't give two craps about values, they only care about making money. More Rares = More Money.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2hd.
All in all, why do people buy rares?
If we're honest, we do it to show off. For instance, if you had a Throne and say a few Mochas and Blue Inflatable Chairs... and your throwing a party, your going to make sure the Throne is there, aren't you?
People want profit to buy more expensive things, expensive things are a sign of wealth. Now, we have an increasingly "poor" Habbo population, who survive on giveaways and donations. They don't tend to show off their wealth.
Overall, less people are trading the expensive rares. If there are no people wanting to buy your throne (and this is obviously a long way off, but it's happening to some rares), your going to drop the price to sell it. That's the problem I think we have. The problem lies in less people buying credits, which snowballs into less people buying rares and super rares, coupled with more rich Habbos leaving and keeping their rares locked away. This can mean two things.
1) Less Super Rares to trade, pushing their values up.
2) Less Super Rare Traders, keeping the value down.
Overall, this process has kept the market stable for a while. Fewer traders means less people willing to pay the price, but lower availabilty pushes the value up. I think the market is starting to feel the pinch.
A prime example is =Ice-T= (owner of the Throne Pyramid). He had hundreds of thrones, but has now disappeared. This means there is one less rich dealer willing to pay the price, but less thrones, which means the value goes up.
That's my theory, anyway. Probably wrong.
Yes were did that throne pyramid go?
My mate said he always sees hc sofas and throne sofa pyramids why not thrones?
I said search =Ice-T= and there is one.
He couldn't find and neither could I.
The prices of credits are to expensive to spend so I think that is why not as many people buy credits.If people buy credits then instead of buying hc for 30credits and getting 1 hc sofa they would buy 3 10 credit coins to get 3 hc sofas.
The rares that Sulake release now is to make money because every rare I personally have seen (Only about 5 of them) The first was the new years rocket, basically the black one but different colour and name?, one was the aqua icm, recolour of the gold icm, The green birdbath, re-release and then the petal patch and moon patch, re-release and then finally a NEW rare!
I think it's because of the lack of build up to rares these days. Ever since last year after certain happenings, there has been absolutely no build up with a personal touch to build up anticipation to these rares, it's always now hotel alert-news post, not do quest x to find the new rare or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Wrong. As an international hotel visitor (heh...fansite) I think you'll find ALL Habbo's have suffered greatly in terms of members. UK being the most notable, granted. Habbo UK has gone from a 14,000 peak (even sometimes 15,000) to a 6,400 peak time - even on weekends.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Habbo SG struggles to get 800 people online at peaktimes, even on weekends.
Habbo AU no longer is in the 2-3,000 margin, it's 1,800.
Habbo CA doesn't even get 3,000 people, not even 2,000 people often. It gets about 1,700.
Habbo US as the commercial hotel should have been growing - it hasn't. It's gone from a 10,000 peak time to a 7,000 peak time - on weekends.
This goes for every other hotel too.
at the person who mentioned the new stuff that came out this year - all of that is recolours. Road Barriers, Traffic Lights, Bubble Chairs, Sleeping Bags, new iced/area/mode are all recoloured and more will come out. Road stuff & bubble chairs are not even rare - they're meant to be 'accessories' (hence the 6-10 credit pricing). Solariums are iced furni, not rare.
I think people are wisening up where it comes to the recolour rubbish. When it comes to recolours. Recolours are fine, people liked the parasol/birdbath era of recolours - Sulake went over the top in creating 10 recolours for every v7 rare (some which look almost identical to other pieces) and then continued to go over the top when they made all these future furnitures with recolours. Traffic Lights have about 6 colours, Road Barriers = 3 colours, Bubble Chairs = 8 colours, Area/Mode/Iced = 8 colours, Glass = 8 colours and the list goes on...
;o so no wonder Sulake are rushing versions, it seems like all the Hotels are in meltdown in visitor numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evolution
I miss having 14,000 people online :(
Yeah ;oQuote:
Originally Posted by Flabbyman
There obviously rushes versions to bring more money in. I understand now! It took us 6 months to get V11 after V9 and only 2-3 months to get V12 after V11. Numbers have decreased in the last year, I think its better having more people online, Habbo becomes more fun for some reason:).
Anyway it looks like our Normals Market is already in meltdown and the super one is starting to get worse.
Exactly ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sweets
They've noticed their losing their visitors which equally results in losing profit.
It's possibly the reason why hotels such as CA&US charge more for furni such as glass, recoloured mode/area/iced, gothic (generically 1 credit more than every other hotel)
They even went as far as charging 25 credits for an Iced Roller door.
It's why there's a lot more original furni that doesn't come with recolours, the habbowood stuff, japanese stuff etc.
Romantique is a new furni line that again comes in recolours - lets hope its not as outrageously prices as gothic (which they also expect people to pay the same amount of credits as the red set for the other 6 colours of it) ;)
Well, I just jumped out of the Super Market yesterday. Looking at the trades going on, it will be a matter of days before the Dino drops below 3 thrones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flabbyman
@ Andy - Sulake are too slow at keeping up with the competition. Music has been suggested on the hotel since day one. It's take six years... Six years too long.
Let's face it, Habbo is dieing. There are so many rares in the hotel now, it's not even significant owning one. I remember the days where I would celebrate after getting a HC Sofa. Now I get 20 for free and don't give a toss.
The super rare trades are controlling everything, people like Telux & Slure + more own all the super rares, they are becoming less popular.
It's partly, well mostly the staff's fault. The hotel is so damn boring now, they hold zilch events, its all just a massive waste of time.
Habbo doesn't need lots of versions to get more players it needs good, active staff who host lots of events, quests, and competitions.
I'm new here on Habbox. Aside from that all this reminded me of one short witty story. I'm sure you've all heard it =)
''This is a story about four people: Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was asked to do it.
Everybody was sure Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody
wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when actually Nobody asked Anybody.''
Just thoughts.
=)
Habbo is going to collapse sooner or later anyway. Think about it
It's not exactly a long term thing. The audience of it all for starters is
12-18. That means the people who started playing habbo at 12, even they
are now going due to jobs and in general, due to life. The new people coming along
get sucked into the traditions already on Habbo, and indeed, there is a tradition.
Which means that there is no fresh blood to it all to keep up the excitement.
A throne is 30 quid in credits.
30 quid buys you a decent game on most consoles.
Also there are other MMORPGs cropping up on the internet.
Second Life for example. Or World of Warcraft. Compare Habbo to them
and it's almost a joke. Charging teenagers so much money for dinky
little graphics is hilarious. I'm not criticizing anyone I'm just
stating the facts. What effort in it all deserves that much money?
As for the super rare trading, I'm not any part of that but all
I can say is that I think all the prices are quite literally
insane and what's the point of having a super rare when the
only people who are rich enough to buy them are in fact the
people who have them anyway..?
Just thoughts.
Anywho, thanks for listening - if you did =)
-lethal-
unfortantly habbos nowadays hate quests which are running up to a rare being released. :@ before the sea dragon came out (i know it was ages ago but still) there was a quest, there were more people rioting about having to wait for a rare to come out than people taking part in the quest :rolleyes: when a few years ago there was a quest before every release of a rare.Quote:
Originally Posted by TopManTim
anyway there are now more supers/rares and less people playing meaning the prices will drop.
I find that funny, about a month ago I invested in one (5 HCs), and it got re-leased causing the value to drop quite a bitQuote:
Originally Posted by Elkaa
The rare market is suffering probably because of the decline in visitors. Last summer there was a huge boom in the rare trade market, now there is a huge slump. Bring it all down to what there is to do: Nothing. Think about the GTE v GPW competition. Both home pages mention Jenova and Tea A, 2 teams from a competition held about a year and a half ago.
At that time all the habbo staff (as their were seberal other teams) were trying to build up support for their team, they spent masses of time online and made the competition quite popular.
Helkat and Lost_Witness are hardly ever online and both team bases are deserted. Things weren't like this when Callie was still manager.
Im starting to realise why Callie was so popular, Lost_Witness isn't putting in as much effort. The hotel is becoming more furni orentated and now with fewer visitors the market is starting to collapse. I recently bought a petal patch and an aloe vera, both a dropped by at least one HC in value, I got a Gothic throne for a Hc a few months ago, its worth half that now.
With less demand for furni the rare market is starting to collapse, the only stable value is the HC sofa and it always has the same value. My view is that when rare trading crumbles into nothing the UK hotel will probably last about a month.
PS: the process has already begun, although I am looking at least a year into the future
PSS: Compare Habbo Hotel to America in the 1920s and 1930s
lol if habbo is america in the thirties, in the great depression
all we need now is a habbo war to jumpstart the economy
just like in the good ol' us of a
That or a New Deal, and a Hotel Manager that goes by a name that sounds like Roosevelt or FDR
Is it me or are numbers slowly and i mean very slowly creeping up to 6000 most nights at peak times?
Last few nights I noticed this.
Just me?
Big Deal, there used to be well over 10,000 (i think) on at peak times
i think they need continus comp/chats/whatever else and they need to do them more fairly i.e they should give a week be4 the event anybody wanting to go put there name forward and are chosen. also when they do an event you go get there proper fast and its full or they lock it and be4 its even open and theres maybe 15 people there already and its a 25 person room it just makes you not want to go even look next time maybe they should open bigger special rooms that open for these events with no chat to help lag or somthing they need somthing like a cinima where you can watch a film or design things for ya room or habbo maybe even using the food in the cafe's to change ya habbo ie make u fatter/thinner taller or shorter they just need to keep you continusly wanting you to go on habbo with ya friends when they have that more people will want a nice room to meet there friends in and maybe the rare values will go up
and really they do need more better things tat ya habbo react to or just look well cool
Games and Events are part of the problem but not really, it's versions and advertising that will keep sulake wealthy.
They need to update the game and continue doing it and also advertise a lot, otherwise for the first time, I don't see a future for Habbo Hotel.
Look at our Market now, it's worse than in winter.
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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
When there were the top amount of users on (around 13,000) was when v9 was around that was there for about 6 months but the users didn't go down much. They went down alot when L_W became manager as he held minimum events and many people became bored.
All i'll say is bring callie back,
A old arguement i know, but atleast she wasn't a little kid jumped up on jellie babies, Just jafa cakes. :P
Habbo will continue, Just with the rares market decreasing there is a increasing number of scammers!