Homophobia is as bad as racism...

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

I know this isn't really funny but I keep getting this ad on every page of this thread:

http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com...jIIHUyg2tt3Gow



Can we not get into that argument? Though, I believe the gays are persecuted to some extent.

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So do I. Isn't it because the ads try to relate to what you're viewing? If so, it's because the word "gay" is used so many times!

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Originally Posted by hard-fi

HOW DARE YOU!

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quite easily babe xo

I think its a bit extreme to go as far as saying Homophobia is as bad as racism. Although Im against homophobia, I think in our society racism is a lot worse for so many reasons. And I only mean racism on a forum is a lot worse than homophobia on a forum. In reality, I could have a vague idea of where you're coming from.

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Originally Posted by Sammeth.

I think its a bit extreme to go as far as saying Homophobia is as bad as racism. Although Im against homophobia, I think in our society racism is a lot worse for so many reasons. And I only mean racism on a forum is a lot worse than homophobia on a forum. In reality, I could have a vague idea of where you're coming from.

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How exactly is it different? especially in the context of a forum.

1) A group of people who are born a certain way are targeted?
2) People have no control over there sexuality in the same way they have no control over there race.
3) The group is discriminated against and there are many derogatory terms for them?

I fail to see the difference here, both seem very much the same. Would someone care to try and enlighten me here?



> Note - Im actually an advocate of true free speech so i support the right or any individual to say anything under the sun at any time in any context. quoting Voltaire "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"

Limiting speech in my opinion is simply the act of sweeping the problem under the carpet. Rather than solve the issue, its simply trying to cover it up. Unless such issues are opened up for proper discussion and debate these faults within are social ideology simply fester rather then being argued out to the truth of the matter.

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

Its because of the society we live in. As far as homophobia goes.

"You gay, you must be a loser...because you're gay, go do a guy" is extremely innapropriate and should be infracted under rudeness.


"I am uncomfortable with gay people" is not necessarily an attack on someone, and technically is a statement of opinion. While I don't agree with it, I have no right to suppress the opinion of another.

Racism has been blown out of proportion due to extreme racism in the past, therefore we are much more sensitive to it now. If we began burning homosexuals and having mass shootings of homosexuals (yes, I am aware of how terrible that is, and hope it never comes to that) then 20 years down the road, I'm fairly certain that "I am uncomfortable with gay people" would become an offensive statement. Its all about the historical context.

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I feel uncomfortable with black people around me.

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Originally Posted by 01101101entor

How exactly is it different? especially in the context of a forum.

1) A group of people who are born a certain way are targeted?
2) People have no control over there sexuality in the same way they have no control over there race.
3) The group is discriminated against and there are many derogatory terms for them?

I fail to see the difference here, both seem very much the same. Would someone care to try and enlighten me here?

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I agree with you, you are born black/white/mixed as you are born homophobic/hetrosexual.

It's not your fault if you are gay, but yet they are discriminated.
And on a forum its worse because the people who are saying it are just cowards. Its ok not to like them, its your own opinion, but you shouldn't bully people, its just out of order.

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Originally Posted by Wizard

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I agree with you, you are born black/white/mixed as you are born homophobic/hetrosexual.

It's not your fault if you are gay, but yet they are discriminated.
And on a forum its worse because the people who are saying it are just cowards. Its ok not to like them, its your own opinion, but you shouldn't bully people, its just out of order.

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Thats very much wrong, people choose to be gay/straght, if a gay man wanted to sleep with a women they can do so, but a black/white/mixed wanted to be different then they cannot yes even if michael jackson did try to become white he very much failed.

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Originally Posted by Beautiful Women

Thats very much wrong, people choose to be gay/straght, if a gay man wanted to sleep with a women they can do so, but a black/white/mixed wanted to be different then they cannot yes even if michael jackson did try to become white he very much failed.

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You can choose to do what you want, you can sleep with a woman but you can still be gay.

If gay people stopped flashing their sexuality around then Homophobia would stop, a lot of gays continuously seek attention on this forum and it gets on my nerves.

Tbh.

I don't like lesbiens. Or gays.

Me and my best friends are like "lesbiens!" lol Well we joke around.
But so do most "cool" people in our year
but thats diffrent than actually being gay.

But if someone is openly gay and REALLY gay i will not go near them!
Its wrong tbh.

GOD MADE ADAM AND EVE NOT ADAM AND STEVE!

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Originally Posted by Beautiful Women

Thats very much wrong, people choose to be gay/straght, if a gay man wanted to sleep with a women they can do so, but a black/white/mixed wanted to be different then they cannot yes even if michael jackson did try to become white he very much failed.

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people don't choose their sexuality
but they can choose their actions so you are right in saying that gay men can sleep with women if they want, but they could still be gay. the same for people who are straight, i know a few people who would sleep with another woman/man for the experience, but they're still 100% straight.
and micheal jackson didn't try to "become" white, he suffered from the disease vitiligo.

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Originally Posted by Lucy-Wildthing

Tbh.

I don't like lesbiens. Or gays.

Me and my best friends are like "lesbiens!" lol Well we joke around.
But so do most "cool" people in our year
but thats diffrent than actually being gay.

But if someone is openly gay and REALLY gay i will not go near them!
Its wrong tbh.

GOD MADE ADAM AND EVE NOT ADAM AND STEVE!

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ohmygosh damn those homosexuals!!

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Originally Posted by samsaBEAR

wrong. the true meaning of gay is happy, and saying someone is happy isnt insulting.

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Yeah, maybe if you live in 1850.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

If gay people stopped flashing their sexuality around then Homophobia would stop, a lot of gays continuously seek attention on this forum and it gets on my nerves.

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It's because they have insecurity issues.

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Originally Posted by Lucy-Wildthing

GOD MADE ADAM AND EVE NOT ADAM AND STEVE!

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He's fictional.

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Originally Posted by RIOT!

people don't choose their sexuality
but they can choose their actions so you are right in saying that gay men can sleep with women if they want, but they could still be gay. the same for people who are straight, i know a few people who would sleep with another woman/man for the experience, but they're still 100% straight.
and micheal jackson didn't try to "become" white, he suffered from the disease vitiligo.
ohmygosh damn those homosexuals!!

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I lol'd at that. He has had cosmetic surgery. Vitiligo doesn't affect the whole body ever. He just used it as an excuse.

It's not as bad as racism.
If people dislike gays, that's their opinion.

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Originally Posted by Beautiful Women

Thats very much wrong, people choose to be gay/straght, if a gay man wanted to sleep with a women they can do so, but a black/white/mixed wanted to be different then they cannot yes even if michael jackson did try to become white he very much failed.

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no, you can't choose to be gay or straight.
that means you can just wake up and say t oyourself, damien "oh hi i'm gunna be gay from now on"? no lol.
believe me, if i could be straight i would be. saves a HELL of a lot of bother.

&@above, if people dislike blacks or chinese people, that is their opinion too. so how is it different?

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Originally Posted by hysteria

no, you can't choose to be gay or straight.
that means you can just wake up and say t oyourself, damien "oh hi i'm gunna be gay from now on"? no lol.
believe me, if i could be straight i would be. saves a HELL of a lot of bother.

&@above, if people dislike blacks or chinese people, that is their opinion too. so how is it different?

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I could quite easily become gay if I wanted to.

no you couldn't, you could 'do' stuff with a guy but that doesn't mean you're gay
i've done pretty much everything with both sexes and that doesn't make me bisexual as i'm not interested in girls.

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Originally Posted by hysteria

no you couldn't, you could 'do' stuff with a guy but that doesn't mean you're gay
i've done pretty much everything with both sexes and that doesn't make me bisexual as i'm not interested in girls.

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Your still interacting.

so? it doesn't define your sexuality.

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Originally Posted by hysteria

so? it doesn't define your sexuality.

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It does because a black man cannot become white, a white man cannot become black but a gay man can sleep with a women and fall in love with them and a straght man can fall in love with a man.

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Originally Posted by Beautiful Women

It does because a black man cannot become white, a white man cannot become black but a gay man can sleep with a women and fall in love with them and a straght man can fall in love with a man.

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well if he fell in love with a girl he musn't be very gay then :s
unless if you're going into pansexuality which is a whole different matter