There's only a select few X's who do listen to views. They're usually the Head X's and the odd standard X.Quote:
Originally Posted by mlp16
*grin* No comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by :....:mike:....:
CHA!N, I just imagined you jumping out of this thread as it 'explodes' and I don't know why, but it really made me lol. xD
I finally found out arguing about stuff regarding the way X's act is pathetic and unnecessary because no matter how much you do it will never change. If they feel that the program is "successful", then they will of course feel that they won't want to change the system. I finally also concluded that Habbo does not choose to listen to their players complaining about the things they run because they think it is all jealousy and nothing more. Put it this way, just give up.Quote:
Originally Posted by mlp16
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Originally Posted by :....:mike:....:
Why would i give up.. expressing my views..
Don't give up expressing your views; give up trying to change something that will never change.Quote:
Originally Posted by mlp16
Thing is some events could take place any time we want, which means staff may not be online. Plus lets say for example, Lost_Witness was the only staff member online, he has nothing to do with the X team so why would he spend his time removing a badge when he has his own work to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyroka
As I said before, there's not many ****ions to a problem like this. You can't please everyone.
i dont see why your moaning about people room overiding, im sure you would if you had the power.
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Originally Posted by Kardan
Please The majority and remove the override system..
Maybe but that isn't why we are arguing. The fact that people are using it as an advantage to over-ride rooms for competitions is something that should not be allowed and re-considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHe
Sure, if they did that, the community will be a hell lot happier but if they didn't, then we would move on to a new problem. That is why they ignore us.Quote:
Originally Posted by mlp16
In regards to Lost_Witness removing your badges: He wouldn't have to, he works right beside the "X" staff and they are not afraid to remove you within a second. So, be careful with what you say on Habboxforum, they are watching and trust me, they will remove your badge if you make a mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
I'm discussing the "two badge" solution proposed, I'm not on about Xs not getting their badge removed if they do something wrong :)Quote:
Originally Posted by :....:mike:....:
Sulake being the multi-million earner per year, the billion habbos and what not, you think they would actually do something for once that we ask, after all I know at least six people who could do the necciscary coding, even make it so x's can only override the guest rooms under the user XEVENTS. After all, the customer is always right.
Yeh, that is true. I give my full respects to you, the minority of the honest and kind x's. Unlike the majority of the X's who ran along to the room lostie went to, which really pissed me off.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
I joined the room 30 minutes before the event began. However, the Habbo's inside [including urself] said that i should reload and enter the room as the event starts. We had a good discussion and i think a fair point was reached :) And so, i did leave the room and returned as the event started as request by you :) However, you've just totally changed ur argument again :P As it stands, the X's cannot win this argument. Half of you want one thing, the other half want the opposite. How can we sort this out? Surely if L_W made the rooms of 50 size instead of 25, we would have less problems? I dont know, tbh is it just one of those things that we cant do anything about? Im trying to think of a solution but it's worked so well for about 2 years now, why are we suddenly having problems?Quote:
Originally Posted by mlp16
Also, i dont know why Lost_Witness said that X's cant play these events, and i dont know why people are backing him up. We are just normal habbos who volunteer our time to help people out. All i do on Habbo other than do X-ing, and chat to mates, is enter comps/events. If I am not allowed to play in these events because i am an X, i will have to seriously reconsider my priorities because I enjoy events so much.
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Originally Posted by mlp16
Things are trying to get sorted internally, just because you dont hear about it doesnt mean we arent working on it :) We try our best :)
And thanks for noticing that im desperately trying to sort this out [theres a bit of a difference in opinions at the moment with us] lol
I hope things get sorted out quickly, but what worries me most is why it is suddenly such a problem after having like 2 years without difficulties. Maybe this will just die down? I dont know. But trust me, things are trying to get sorted :) xx
Maybe X's (or just team leaders) should just get VIP badges if they really need to host events. Anyway, it's good to see that our ranting has made some sort of progress. :) :Act, reloading does nothing, and yesterday highlighted that (The room reached 40/25).
OR why don't we abolish the whole system and make the world a happier place?
Edit: A MOD is reading the thread. Only a matter of time till it's closed? -.-'
hmmm i dont know if this makes sense, but why not have two seperate rooms counters?
for example if the room limit was 25, 25 habbos could get in however when the x's enter and the room limit goes up to say 27/25 still keep the 25 spaces for normal habbos but add people with override permissions ontop rather than you waiting for the 27/25 people in the room to reach the normal 24/25 again?
The only privilege all X's get is the room over-ride. Yes it is a privilege and X's that are seen to abuse that privilege get noticed as it was noticed today. They lose any respect they may have earnt from the community and sadly dishearten those X's that never abuse it. I've listened to this type of situation lots of times, and to all the pro's and cons, and in my opinion it would be wrong to remove room over-ride because of a few people.
X's have always been told in the past that if a celeb or a special event is taking place, that they must enter after the room is full, thus not preventing Habbos who have queued from entering before them. Then they should periodically re-load the room to allow others still attempting to enter. This works and doesn't work, because if 10 or even 5 X's are all planning on entering a room after it's full, and all do enter when it is, they aren't aware of just how many are still trying to enter after queueing for ages. They also aren't aware of each other also waiting for the room to be full before they enter. This is a no win situation, because everyone still complains. It's impossible for the X's to calculate how many are still trying to enter. It's also no fun having to keep reloading the room, in fact it can be quite annoying, because you might miss something you were really interested in. At the end of the day X's are players too, they play the Hotel and are just as entitled as everyone else to enter events and competitions. It's also wrong to assume that every X at an event is abusing their privilege.
At the moment there is only one simple solution, if an X so badly wants to take part in something that doesn't require them to use the room over-ride attached to their badge, use another account, and if they win something be allowed to have it on their main account ;)
Until another better suggestion or way forward comes up, I do think it's wrong for X's to be excluded from being players.
Some good points Alice, but I think that what most people don't agree with are the privelidges that allow guest room over rides.
Surely, if there is an X event (when they are most likely to need the over ride for guest rooms) then they could just have a VIP badge?
The current office team don't like handing out VIP badges for no reason because it comes with anti-kick etc. Plus if an X is blocking something by accident, they can't be kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackBuddy
It depends what X you are really, Gamer X.... Gaming and Racing Rooms?
Hey as far as I'm aware eXperts are still allowed to participate in Habbo Events, but this was never an issue when hobbas had the over-ride. And there was way more hobbas than there are currently eXperts.
Still doesn't stop them overriding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
I'm not convinced VIP badges is a way forward, if anything Habbos would be quick to complain that X's cant be kicked. Something else for the community to complain about, yes?Quote:
Originally Posted by JackBuddy
It's also a lot of hassle for staff in my opinion. If X's are running an event that takes place in guest rooms, should only those taking part be given VIP? NO. We all know that things go wrong, you could be running an event, when the hotel goes on maintenance or an X doesn't show up for whatever reason. At that point you have to call on another X to lend a hand, I've been in that position and have been very grateful that an X had no problem getting into the room to help the event go with a swing. Messing about with giving badges just for events wouldn't work in my opinion.
yep and i created them :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpsterz
I'm glad Lost_witness has did this, it does give x's a fair chance, without abusing the over-ride power, I also believe that the new selections of X's were MOSTLY bad, due to poor application layouts, I mean a 400 essay explaining why you deserve to be an X hardly shows that you have the potential to help 100s of habbos each week..
There's a few new x's I won't mention, that I feel strongly that they shouldn't be x's.
Since redtiz left, the X program has gone down hill, 0rca needs to enforce new testing methods on applicants to show their skills in helping, not their english writing skills!
The over-ride power is for emergency uses, in such cases as full welcome lounge, safety spa, habbo gardens, or X event rooms, the X's powers should be limited to a certain extent to ensure all habbos get a fair input.
true true xD well said |Quote:
Originally Posted by Killerfaz
Having an X program was a mistake on its own. It is separating those who "think" they can help versus those who "know" they can help. Limiting those who feel they have the dedication and time for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killerfaz
Also, picking "popular" or really well-written applications to be a potential X is damn right low and unacceptable. I feel that even the most popular Habbos can't provide the same assistance as the ones who are not popular and were around long enough to know right and wrong. I feel that to be insulting because the "connection" between the staff and yourself gives you a major boost in the applications which enables you to be accepted but be nothing then a power abuser.
As for the over-ride feature, that is a crappy feature and should have never been introduced because it is only ruining the best part of Habbo - FUN, oh wait, Habbo never intended fun, it was supposed to be money-based for everything. :eusa_wall
You saw me standing alone...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyroka
I totally agree, and also Habbo strongly points out that X's get no rewards what so ever, and are 'volunteers', most people these days apply for the attention, badge, and over-ride. IrJen, Rivalry, JustEm, CHA!NGANG, Boxiel, all had strong bonds with staff, which I believe helped them throuugh the applications, the layout of the applications should be changed, and the new x's should get examined on their so called "Xing skills"Quote:
Originally Posted by :....:mike:....:
dont forget boixel is Mod-omegs cousion so he could have helped himQuote:
Originally Posted by Killerfaz
with the app
Yes, but that's also saying if you want to be a X give bad attitude towards staff and don't be friendly to them, but also being a friend of a means that staff member knows there ability and skills so they dont really need to be tested on ''Xing skills'' Although the idea is good, but they shouldnt be judged on there friendship or just generally knowing them they should act like they didnt know them but at the end of the day that is hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killerfaz
Put this situation in the eyes of the staff members, getting complains and not knowing what to do one way or another they are going to upset some type of people and its hard to come up with a way to resolve this.
Being a friend of a staff is like "Yeah, this person doesn't deserve a prize, they cheated.", "Let's go make a game room, give me some credits and I will host it." and/or "I want to be a Habbo X, help me out."Quote:
Originally Posted by Transcripts
If you normally watch how people talk to staff, you could tell they are there just to get closer to the opportunity of becoming something or getting something. They get closer and closer each time.
Until they're lips touch while the sun is setting in the distance and the gorillas are playing on the bongos...Quote:
Originally Posted by :....:mike:....:
Edited by Agesilaus (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post off topic.
I really do not think that is fair. I worked in a Help Desk for 5 Months which is probably the factor that got me through, not the fact that I have a 'strong bond with staff'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killerfaz
e something to contribute for example Dan/Boxiel is amazing at technology and would make a perfect Tech X. All the chosen X's havSo I don't think that is fair at all for you too say that. Plus, not many people do know 0rca and colmc as they hardly accept f/r's, and me for one has from what I can recall never talked to colmc before becoming an X.
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Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
OMG does that mean if I work in a helpdesk for 5 months I'll pass the x application in flying colours?
LOL I donno :P I am just saying that It must of helped :)
Habbo staff don't focus on you thinking 'oh yeah in 5 months time this kid is gonna apply for Habbo X let's watch him for 5 months and see if he's any good"Quote:
Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
And tbh, you follow staff around alot, and post on their guestbooks, and as previous posts state, people do this for a increased chance on getting something.
And the applications asked you for personal reasons on why you should be a Habbo X, not to justify what type of X you could be, and what's your profession, as the 3 months of training does that..
I'm sorry, but your attitude to me doesn't show an X at all, it shows somebody coming up with irrelevant reasons to oppose my suggestions.
All I am saying is that there are other reasons to why the X's where chosen. And, to be honest we won't find them out but I am sure it is not for the reason why you think it is.
After reading ALL that I think that the new X's reasons for being chosen is both off topic and regardless wether you think they should have been chosen or not because they have been chosen and you can't change the people that were. I also think that having room over-ride in gaming rooms for gamer Xs, Safety Spa for safty Xs etc. is a good idea.
Also to the team leaders who seem to be the ones always hosting an X event, therefor in need of the guest room over-ride ability.
Taking the room over-ride of all guest rooms off the Xs besides team leaders is a good idea and would solve the problems [Monday when the highest room populationg got to 48 / 25] as I didn't see any X team leaders playing the games, too busy helping people I supose like they are there for ?
Just my veiws anyway :D:P
You have no backup to support what you're saying, anyone can follow staff into rooms, don't need them on console, and I do recognize that you write to many of staff, which boosts staffs awareness of you, the new x's may have 'skills' in certain areas, but the application process gave you no way of showing that, therefore your ideas above mean nothing :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
Get over it, its a virtual game, and a virtual badge with no value of whatever.
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Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
Funny said you were leaving the thread yet you come back >_>.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG
Any who on topic, I personally think X's should only get over-ride for the rooms they are actually meant to be in i.e Host = Welcome Lounge, Safety / Tech = Safety Spa and Gamer = BB, SS and all that.
But and the end of the day it really is just a virtual game...