VIP Editors

If only it was like the old days when I got an extra 5 months VIP free... :(

The usual excuse is :Too many editors will cause a stir. This is aload of bull poo. If something needs changing, one of the editors will change it and if the other editor comes along to try and change something, they won't, because they would notice these changes. If someone wanted Green VIP, it'll be there etc etc etc. If someone has ordered a months of VIP, it will be there. Perhaps if it makes it easier, tell the members to state how much VIP they currently have if they want to extend their membership. It's not hard :/ I doubt they will lie, unless you don't give editors the power to see who had what before the VIP changes :P

sorry but you complain about EVERYTHING.
he has a life you know.

Maybe if there were two - they could edit the post if they've done it?

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Originally Posted by splat

sorry but you complain about EVERYTHING.

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I noticed that.

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Originally Posted by Elkaa

I bet alot of people would gladly take an administrative position. ;)



Administration on a forum this size is alot different to "other" jobs, primarily because you always have something to do. It also takes quite along time to work upto admin, most start with Moderator.



Suggestions never helped anyone when it comes for an admin role. ;)



The first part is completely right there. It's like with all other websites - we gain a userbase of just under 1,000 unique (registered) members per day, so alot of trust is needed.



Quoted for the bold. :)



Correct. As I mentioned above, you work your way there. :)



However, it never hurt to ask, right? ;)



Not sure why I quoted you again, but yep.

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As for the VIP editor, I reviewed it just last week to see how long it takes for jobs to be done. It's usually done that same day, or within 2 days. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

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I know Nick does an awful lot, but it's been 4 days since peoples usertitles and rep has been changed.

no, it gets too confusing.

Thing is, you could do them all and then people will post more for the rest of the day or during you doing them. They are always stacking up, and to keep doing each one every time it comes in is time consuming and frustrating.

Another factor is that the staff are hired to work when they can and not to a schedual so to do it at a certain time is out f the question.

everyone does these jobs on this forum oout of kindness & giving up their spare time.
give people a break, they might just have a social lifee!

"having a social life" is a stupid excuse. If he doesn't have the time to do the job, hire more people or get someone else to do it.

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Originally Posted by Forum

"having a social life" is a stupid excuse. If he doesn't have the time to do the job, hire more people or get someone else to do it.

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No it is not! All the staff do their jobs as volunteers. They are not expected to be on the forum 24/7 at the beg and call of a thread. You should try being and ADMIN doing that job along with other things.

its really not a stupid excuse

do you think its classed as normal to be glued to your computer all day everyday.....

Saying "he has a social life" is a stupid excuse. Everyone has a social life - but if he doesn't have the time to do it and if it takes him 4 days to do it then hiring an additional person to help is the obvious answer.

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Originally Posted by Forum

Saying "he has a social life" is a stupid excuse. Everyone has a social life - but if he doesn't have the time to do it and if it takes him 4 days to do it then hiring an additional person to help is the obvious answer.

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You should read the thread before you dig yourself any deeper. Nick explained he had been away for 3 days and thats why it has gotten behind.

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Originally Posted by yoshimitsui

You should read the thread before you dig yourself any deeper. Nick explained he had been away for 3 days and thats why it has gotten behind.

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Maybe you should try reading the thread. I've already looked through VIP features thread and the majority of the time it takes him 72 hours to add features. With another person to help, this time could be reduced.

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

The usual excuse is :Too many editors will cause a stir. This is aload of bull poo. If something needs changing, one of the editors will change it and if the other editor comes along to try and change something, they won't, because they would notice these changes. If someone wanted Green VIP, it'll be there etc etc etc. If someone has ordered a months of VIP, it will be there. Perhaps if it makes it easier, tell the members to state how much VIP they currently have if they want to extend their membership. It's not hard :/ I doubt they will lie, unless you don't give editors the power to see who had what before the VIP changes :P

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I love you and all Gomme but when the people who were around when we tried it say that it was confusing and difficult, I think you might be the one spewing bull poo :P

For clarification since not many people understand, there are two VIP editors. However we split the labor into seperate spheres, I take care of VIP subscriptions and forums and Nick takes care of Features and Name Changes. With this division of labor each section should be a one-man job. And Nick does a bang-up job, he's just away sometimes ;) If you put more men on the job they end up sitting around and doing pretty much nothing.

A way of sorting this out would maybe be done by getting someone who already has a job that doesn't take up to much time and let them have the job. Then even if they didn't need to do anything for there VIP editors job they would always have there other job to do. ;)

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

I love you and all Gomme but when the people who were around when we tried it say that it was confusing and difficult, I think you might be the one spewing bull poo :P

For clarification since not many people understand, there are two VIP editors. However we split the labor into seperate spheres, I take care of VIP subscriptions and forums and Nick takes care of Features and Name Changes. With this division of labor each section should be a one-man job. And Nick does a bang-up job, he's just away sometimes ;) If you put more men on the job they end up sitting around and doing pretty much nothing.

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Originally Posted by Forum

Saying "he has a social life" is a stupid excuse. Everyone has a social life - but if he doesn't have the time to do it and if it takes him 4 days to do it then hiring an additional person to help is the obvious answer.

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This is sorta true.
Ive had a thread to change my name for like 2-3 weeks now and it aint been changed :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Xonph

I know Nick does an awful lot, but it's been 4 days since peoples usertitles and rep has been changed.

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3 of which I've spent away. ;)

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Originally Posted by yoshimitsui

Thing is, you could do them all and then people will post more for the rest of the day or during you doing them. They are always stacking up, and to keep doing each one every time it comes in is time consuming and frustrating.

Another factor is that the staff are hired to work when they can and not to a schedual so to do it at a certain time is out f the question.

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You have no idea how annoying that is, especially in the VIP features thread, it's infinitely irritating when I post the updates assuming its all done when someone else has posted between when I finished the requests and prepared the post of updates. Its even worse when someone who I've just updated changes their mind and makes me change it back or to something more complicated that needs huge amounts of HTML. :P

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Originally Posted by Forum

"having a social life" is a stupid excuse. If he doesn't have the time to do the job, hire more people or get someone else to do it.

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Originally Posted by Forum

Saying "he has a social life" is a stupid excuse. Everyone has a social life - but if he doesn't have the time to do it and if it takes him 4 days to do it then hiring an additional person to help is the obvious answer.

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That's an atrocious opinion to have. Are you seriously saying that I should favour volunteer work on an online forum where I'm dealing with other peoples requests day in day out and complaints via PM about missing VIP which I don't deal with over my own social life? :S
I would strongly recommend changing that opinion because its very selfish and verging on arrogant.
I don't often give out -rep because I deal with the issues thread so its unfair on the person but I think an exception can be made here.

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Originally Posted by halo

This is sorta true.
Ive had a thread to change my name for like 2-3 weeks now and it aint been changed :rolleyes:

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If you're going to lie about your situation at least make it challenging to prove you wrong. It isn't hard to go to the VIP name changes section and see that your name change request has been active for just under 5 days not 2-3 weeks. I can see it, Management can see it, even other VIPs can see it to prove that what you've just posted is entirely fabricated. :$

How is it an atrocious opinion :S I have nothing against you personally and I know you deal with lots of things on here, and the fact is it does take you longer than it used to to update features. If an additional person is hired things might get done quicker. You may well have a "social life" but I'm sure there are people out there with more time on their hands.

And no, i'm not saying that you should favour volunteer work on an online forum over your social life - you're the one that said that.

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Originally Posted by Forum

"having a social life" is a stupid excuse. If he doesn't have the time to do the job, hire more people or get someone else to do it.

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I took that as a devaluation of my social life over this forum, its not a 'stupid excuse', its not even an excuse, its a reason.

Havign a social life is a stupid excuse? - Speak for yourself why dont you? :S

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Originally Posted by Forum

Saying "he has a social life" is a stupid excuse. Everyone has a social life - but if he doesn't have the time to do it and if it takes him 4 days to do it then hiring an additional person to help is the obvious answer.

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All the staff on here have a social life - it is a reason anyone could use.

Which is allowed. If he's outside and not on HxF, hes obviously not going to be doing the VIP features so it isn't a silly excuse.

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Originally Posted by Forum

All the staff on here have a social life - it is a reason anyone could use.

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But if that means everyone else has to wait days then why don't they hire another person to help?

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Originally Posted by Forum

But if that means everyone else has to wait days then why don't they hire another person to help?

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Mate it is just VIP stuff in the end, surely you can wait a day or two extra?

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Originally Posted by VBT-700

Mate it is just VIP stuff in the end, surely you can wait a day or two extra?

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True. I hardly ever use the feature thread anyway so I don't know why I got myself involved in the first place.

Care cup is officially empty c\_/

lol I like the care cup :P

It's 19-15 to the people who think something needs to be done, Although we do have to consider the thoughts of the people that voted no. With Habbo getting bigger everyday it also results in fansites getting bigger and with Habbo being one of Habbos biggest fansites we should definatly be getting more users, So I'm sure that there will be more people buying VIP/VVIP. My point of this whole thread was to give you the message that we need more VIP editors.

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Originally Posted by Hx-Fight

As far as I am concerned I think Nick- is the only VIP editor.

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-Cough, isn't nvr one aswell? And yes, there should be more so it speeds up the process.

It's fine the way it is. Nick- tries his hardest and I think he can handle an online forum job and a social life all at once! :)

Just bought some more VIP and I am going to request my rep points as a test of how long it takes. I will let you know the exact time I requested it and when I get it I will tell you what time. Any guesses on how long it will take people?

Any guesses on how many people actually care about you timing it?


LET NICK GET ON WITH HIS JOB IN PEACE.

I was aiming that question at the 20 people that do think something needs to be done, not you.
I requested at 10:19pm on the 15th July.

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Originally Posted by TheOne

Any guesses on how many people actually care about you timing it?


LET NICK GET ON WITH HIS JOB IN PEACE.

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Im surprised that this thread is still going, it won't happen and it is totally reasonable as to why sometimes it is a bit slow when getting VIP settings, and in the end its VIP on a forum why does it matter if its a day or two days?

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Originally Posted by Forum

But if that means everyone else has to wait days then why don't they hire another person to help?

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Its not days, days was due to away time, during away time we usually find an interim editor. Nick will be away for three weeks coming up so Elkaa will be helping out with features for a while.

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Originally Posted by Hx-Fight

It's 19-15 to the people who think something needs to be done, Although we do have to consider the thoughts of the people that voted no. With Habbo getting bigger everyday it also results in fansites getting bigger and with Habbo being one of Habbos biggest fansites we should definatly be getting more users, So I'm sure that there will be more people buying VIP/VVIP. My point of this whole thread was to give you the message that we need more VIP editors.

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19-15 people but half the stories have been extraordinarily fabricated and some people agreed simply because of hearing about those stories. A reason was given and I don't see the issue, although there is a temporary extra editor for Nick-'s departure.

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Originally Posted by Hx-Fight

Just bought some more VIP and I am going to request my rep points as a test of how long it takes. I will let you know the exact time I requested it and when I get it I will tell you what time. Any guesses on how long it will take people?

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I can tell you know smods have alot to deal with so i know admin will have alot more. Nick has a social life, Its 3 days it aint gonna kill you is it really ?.

I think the VIP editor is fine and considering the amount of requests i fell it is quick.

yes - i propose this to ---mad--- and low and behold, it got practically ignored

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Originally Posted by Hx-Fight

Just bought some more VIP and I am going to request my rep points as a test of how long it takes. I will let you know the exact time I requested it and when I get it I will tell you what time. Any guesses on how long it will take people?

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Is there a point to doing that? I don't reply to threads and then ignore them so this isn't going unnoticed by me which essentially makes it an attempt to manipulate me and the system which I don't appreciate. Timing it won't make any difference to the way I do my job, you will get your reputation but offering some sort of ultimatum is not the way to get it done faster.
You've put me in an interesting situation that I'm sure wasn't your original intent, I could deliberately wait especially long to update the VIP features thread delaying your reputation past the 7 day limit so that you are no longer entitled to it as well as delaying others purely because you are in no position to offer me an ultimatum and I often like being awkward when people show this sort of disrespect to someone who is ultimately volunteering his time or I could add it straight away making your little investigation invalid. Alternatively, there's the third option, the high road, often taken by me when this sort of thread arises which is to ignore your remark and continue doing my job as I see fit e.g. not based upon your conditions which you have no right to set.
In the two years I've been staff here I don't think I've ever seen someone who thinks so highly of themselves as to actually tell me how to do my job despite the fact that they have very little clue about what I do. In fact, I'm more than just a bit peeved at your lack of regard for what I do, as I said to Forum, it's not often I issue -rep because it's not fair on the receiver as I deal with the reputation issues but I will be making an exception for the second time in the same thread.

I think if there was another one it would be purely to back Nick- up as the poor guy should be allowed a life too. I think you are all being harsh because he has a hard job to do and a lot of work.

I think a second one wouldn't hurt, it'd just require a system where they could say what has been done and what hasn't.

But you guys should lay off Nick a bit, he does what he can.