lolol, Dentafrice is from North Carolina, the extent of his education is probably sunday school with the Klu Klux Klan.
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lolol, Dentafrice is from North Carolina, the extent of his education is probably sunday school with the Klu Klux Klan.
Now that's what I call ironic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Susie Dent
Texas is the US equivalent of Newcastle, right?
I'll get back to you in a minute on that.. I'm still thinking of a way to respond ;PQuote:
Originally Posted by Zobex
I do agree with you on some parts of that.. surprisingly..
I agree with this! Finally someone (out of the country) that actually knows what they are talking about!Quote:
Originally Posted by Apeel
You seem to have done your research and looked past the UK media to make your decision :P
+REP.
Yeah, you just failed majorly. What a nice assumption! Basing my education on a place I live.Quote:
Originally Posted by Susie Dent
North Carolina is actually an amazing state, and I'm guessing your from out of the country anyway.. (feel free to prove me wrong).
I've had quite a few brunches with the KKK in my days, wasn't at Sunday School though! I would invite you to Sunday School, but I'm sure you couldn't handle it.. you actually have to use your brain.
'Susie Dent'. Close your mouth please, your post was uncalled for and pathetic.
As I said, if I was in the US, I would be voting for Obama, I agree with most of his policys, some I would change, some I dont care about. Sadly Caleb, as a straight person I have to disagree with the same sex marrige part, its just.. I think it should be allowed, I have 2 mates who are gay and are dating, I dont see why they should not be allowed to have a legal partnership. (Also, I lolled at the ------() part... I guess if you go 'round the back' its the same for guys? I dont even wanna think tbh)
But yeah, i dont like how people are in here being like 'LOL HE IS BLAK HE SHUD WIN' or 'HE IS OLD HE SHUD LOSE'. People should read up before attempting to contribute. :@
I agree.. her posted wasn't needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsROW
I don't agree with Obama's policies.. I think that he would/could defend our country properly in times of need.. but no-one knows that until he is put to the test..
I don't think gay marriage should be allowed. It's part of my religion, and part of what I believe, hold that against me if you wish.. but a bunch of internet people's not going to make me loose sleep ;P
Yeah.. I don't want to think about a guy turned around either.. gross. gross. gross.
I feel sorry for the poor kids growing up with two moms.. or two dads.. boy I bet they are going to be confused :\
I think that families should stay the same.. a Mom and a Dad.. each having their own benefits and each having their own pros to the family.
There was a reason only a male and a female could have a child together.. and it all be theirs.. (don't get scientific with me.. I know about all that..).
I just don't think it's natural, and I'll stand by that ;P
Fair enough, and I respect your opinion.
Just out of curiosity, what is your Religion?
I'm a Christian, brought up Christian, raised with Christian values and morals.
I'm not the most faithful Christian, nor do a lot of the things a Christian should do.. but I do make my decisions and opinions based upon the way I was raised, and that.
;) Hopefully you can respect that.
Totally, im the same.
My views on same sex marrige are a bit different though.. I was not brought up christian, but our family made the choice ages ago.
Dont take this comment the wrong way.. this is gonna make me sound like a right muppet. But the same-sex thing must be a US or even just regional thing, because I, and the majority of the christians I know have no problems with it... do you get what I mean? I dont mean 'an american thing' as an offensive term. But yeah..
I just realised how much of an arse I sound rofl.
But as I said, I understnad your opinions and totally respect them.
It is an American thing.
Ah, well I had to be careful saying it as I did not want to come across offensive and blunt. Thanks for telling me though
Yeah.. it really is a regional thing (USA).Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsROW
It's just like Guns.. if you visit Europe.. most families don't own guns.. and it's like that in most countries.
In America.. it's very rare to find a home that doesn't own a handgun, or a rifle of some sort.
Most because a lot of America hunts.. and have handguns for protection.
So you can sort of relate that to the same-sex marriage issue.
It's just Christian values I guess, and our country was founded and raised on those values, and most people stick to them :)
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You're one of the few that actually have good discussion points on topics like this (+REP for that).
and I respect your opinion just as much as you respect mine. I know that a LOT of the UK support gay marriage, because it is more common there then it is here.
We have our "areas" that more gay people are found in, etc, whereas I am from.. it's sparse that you find gay people unless you're in big cities.
You don't sound like an arse ;P
Totally, im the same.
My views on same sex marrige are a bit different though.. I was not brought up christian, but our family made the choice ages ago.
Dont take this comment the wrong way.. this is gonna make me sound like a right muppet. But the same-sex thing must be a US or even just regional thing, because I, and the majority of the christians I know have no problems with it... do you get what I mean? I dont mean 'an american thing' as an offensive term. But yeah..
I just realised how much of an arse I sound rofl.
But as I said, I understnad your opinions and totally respect them.
If you're going to post in this thread, at least try to make good discussion points, and quit being ignorant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fugato
I respect your opinion that you don't like America.. although I don't agree with a lot of the things in Europe, I don't go around saying "Britain sucks. Big time."
;) You're the type of person that gives Americans bad opinions on European people. Why can't you act like saintsRow, etc?
Thanks :P
And yeah, is San Fran one of these 'gay areas' (sounds propper silly). Because on the likes of Family Guy* theres often a lot of gay jokes directed at San Fran. I presume its because of the large gay community or w.e?
*Not the best of sources, paha!
Tbh though, I guess whoever becomes pres is a far superior improvement over Bush.. the UK is in need of that IMO. Gordon Brown is terrible, but thats for another topic.
*cough, Narrominded @54.
Obama wants to increase Minimum Wage. That's a good thing, but McCain don't.
Yeah.. San Fran is one of those areas.. as in our area.. Asheville is :PQuote:
Originally Posted by saintsROW
Yeah, Family Guy has some truth in it though!
Personally I don't agree with a lot of the things George W. Bush did.. but I'm not putting him down, because he did a hell of a better job then I could have ever.. and a lot of the people who say they could.
We're still alive. We haven't been attacked again.. and that's what I care about, a president keeping me and my family safe from terrorists.. and he has done that. (since 9/11.. I'm not blaming him for it.. it's not like he knew.. [ don't get into conspiracy theories with me either. ;P ] )
The reason bush is being blamed is because he is an 8 year president, so everything that happens, everyone is going to blame everything on him anyway :P
Just wait and see, whoever gets elected this year.. and wins another term.. everyone will blame everything on them.
It always happens ;P
Obama wants to "spread the wealth" to lazy-ass people who don't want to work..Quote:
Obama wants to increase Minimum Wage. That's a good thing, but McCain don't.
Obama believes that he should take away people's hard earned money, and give it to the poor people..
McCain believes that people should be taxed less.. and earn their money by working jobs..
McCain believes that people should keep more of their hard earned money.. and those other people get jobs.. and quit being lazy, and sitting at home on their asses living off of the government.
@ Fugato - and McCain has reasons to stick to that point, their polices will obviously change over time. Barack is coming across as the king at the moment, but obviously his policies are going to change, and not be as good as they make out. McCain could possible rise the minimum wage.. but you never know.
To be short. Im sure McCain has a valid reason for not raising the minimum wage.
@Caleb, yeah. Its bound to happen. And lol with the theorys, I dont wanna start either lmao
Yeah, sadly that is a problem over here aswell, everywhere I guess. Especially near our local area, people relying off benefits ("The Dole"). Majority of whom dont need it and are just lazy buggers. It really annoys me because my parents are hardworking, and people who get their money sitting on their arses watching Daytime TV annoy me.
Yeah, they each have their reasons.. and it's not really their reasons.. it's their party's reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsROW
You won't see a democrat who opposes abortion or gay marriage to be supported by the democrats.. just like someone who thinks gay marriage and abortion is right won't be supported by the republicans (GOP) :P
Here's a GREAT link for anyone interested in the difference between conservatives and liberals:
http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/othe...beral-beliefs/
I suggest most people read it.
EDIT: whoever left me a -REP saying "Thanks for the -REP" PM me.. because I didn't give anyone in this thread -REP :\ and you were too stupid to leave your name.
Just skipped over and read some points (have bookmarked for further reading though, thanks for that). Its interesting from a 'spectators' point of view to see how far away each parties points are.. but thats basic politics, but interesting nonetheless.
Yeah, I found that resource the other day and printed it out.
Personally I find myself and my beliefs more to the conservative side.
As I think that people should work for their money.. and not be spoon fed by the government..
They should be given some money.. to be able to live on while going to school, or looking for a job, but not enough money to live their entire life on without working.
Yeah.
That -rep will be from Fugato :@
I -repd him for stealing my text, forgot to leave my name after my comment. He probs -repd you thinking it was me. So fugato, i -repd you for stealing my post. Dont do it again,
Yeah.
That -rep will be from Fugato :@
I -repd him for stealing my text, forgot to leave my name after my comment. He probs -repd you thinking it was me. So fugato, i -repd you for stealing my post. Dont do it again,
Haha well he -REPed me instead, haha who cares.. someone should just leave their name.Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsROW
Anyways. Back on topic.
I wonder what the UK Media have been saying about this election :rolleyes:
I think you can watch our 2 main news servics online (BBC News and Sky News).
Coverage has been good, but annoying. A suprising source for me is John Stewart and Steven Colbert rofl, they are on a 11pm in the UK so they are good.
But yeah, UK coverage has been good.. better than Fox anyway lol.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthquake
People said that about these three, and look what happend, Peter is a european and national disgrace, Blair is hated by most of the world and led us into an illegal war and Alistair turned out to be the biggest spin doctor in the history of politics.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/images...blair_team.jpg
I found this site of some help:
Obama and McCain
It's so they look stupid when they claim they're the country of freedom.Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsROW
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Edited by Yoshimitsui (Super Moderator): Do not post racist remarks.
To be fair I don't know why people are bringing Same-sex marriage up, we don't even have same-sex marriage in the UK yet, but I don't see anyone complaining about that? (I suggest you think about what I said before you argue with that)
I'm undecided about the minimum wage, it needs to be at an extent where it can help to get them out of poverty if they're willing to put a hell of a lot of work in, but it shouldn't be high enough to support them unnecessarily and where they come reliant on it. There is of course exceptions though like I support state pensions, war veterans and disabled people need benefits, they're incapable of earning money usually so they need benefits to survive.
Most of our coverage seem to see Obama as the 'way foward to change', but do we really need change? Sure we need someone to sort out the economic crisis or whatever that'll happen soon enough, but that'll blow over before any of us know it.
McCain is seen as this little old geezer whos just there for the novelty, it's sad, but true. I don't watch the news much, most of it is sadistic ********, so I reads the internet and books I can find - American politics are surely all completely screwed up, voting for the creed and not the policies is wrong with a capital W. (hehe). But they sure are as interesting as hell.
I say good luck to McCain on election day, if he wins - I'll eat my socks, if Obama wins, I'll eat myself.
We are the country of freedom.. we are guaranteed five basic freedoms.. that our soldiers fight everyday for..Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgin Mary
1. Freedom of Speech
2. Freedom of Religion
3. Freedom of the Press
4. Freedom of Assembly
5. Freedom to Petition the government.
Where in those five basic freedoms (which are declared in the first amendment of the constitution).. does it say that same-sex marriage is a given freedom?
It doesn't. So don't bring freedom into this.
I agree.. it should be where they can help them get out of the poverty stage.. and begin their part of the work force.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordy
I think that disabled people need benefits too.. and should be supported.. but there's always those people that abuse that system by faking sickness, etc.
Just like the welfare system :\
Hopefully America will do the right thing and vote for McCain and Palin! Obama is another do-gooders - wanting to back out of the war in Iraq!
In my opinion, even if he did become president, he wouldn't last long before he was killed.
Theres still a lot of racist states in america..
I hope that they vote for McCain! Nice to see another McCain supporter. Returned rep btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue.Neon
I don't think it's a good idea to pull out of Iraq, all those soldiers lives would be wasted.. as well as we are close to the finish line, so no use to pull out now.
They already tried to kill him in Tennessee. Someone else probably will too.
This is the problem with the world today, us 'modern' countries try way to hard to be nice... Obama is just another randomer
Pulling out of Iraq is a silly idea, we need to take revenge!
And tbh, ive been watching on the news very closely.. obama doesnt half use his race a lot doesnt he?
'Just because im not like all those other presidents on them dollar bills' SO WHAT?! Its not a novelty that your black...
It's not a novelty that he's black, it's a curse, might sound a bit harsh - but if he becomes Prez, he won't last 6 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue.Neon
I don't care if he's black, white, yellow, green, or any color.. I still don't like him and what he stands for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue.Neon
He abuses the fact that he's black.. congratulations.. he's a different skin color, that doesn't make him any more qualified to be president then anyone else :P
I agree with you. And for anyone who starts calling us a racist its not for that reason, he will be killed, end of.
The south is still pretty dang racist.
I noticed last night on SkyNews....
Tbh i think sarah palin is a really good running mate with mccain, the 1 thing i dislike about her is the fact she said 'global warming is natural'
Everything else i agree with her on, obama i think is talking bull