i read all of the thread and all of yor posts. And i know loads about football, what i said has **** all to do with me and my knowledge of football.
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Come on now lol... we all know Liverpool as well as of other English, Spainsh... and the rest of the big Clubs, are guilty of tapping up young players w/e. Most of them give the youngsters parent's a hell load of money to make thier youngster break their current contract with thier current Club.
I'm just glad it didn't happen to us.
*Time for a change of plan* :P
I agree and seeing with Chelsea's ageing Club. Terry, Balack, Lampard ect, they will suffer. If they don't in the upcoming months, they will do after Christmas.. It will be a huge blow to them if they appeal and it gets turned down.
That French tart needs a good kick up the backside... i can't believe no one who's in the same, or nearly in the same position as him, has not challenged him with what he's doing. Something really needs to be done about him because it's getting ridiculous.
It's going to be interesting in the next couple of months to see what will happen, will European Clubs like Madrid, Barcelona get similar punishes as what we've suffered? I doubt.
Yeah I'm just talking about Moyes saying "the people who make the transfer decisions at this club have said no, and that is it." Then Hughes was still talking about a player he was not intitled to talk to, or about. Still, Moyes cracked. No complaints from him I bet. He got 4 million more than what the Forehead is worth.
Why not Arsenal? :S
That's a very clever trick. ;)
I loled at both :P. It sickens me to say this, but I actually felt sorry for Chelsea over that game.
I was going to ask the same thing...
Like who..?
I have no idea.. but i'm sure they've tapped up some youngsters who are in the youth, reserves team... or maybe they just play fair.. who knows?
It's impossible to however, say no they haven't because for 1) We don't know the full story of any transfer dealing between a player - Player's Club - Agent - Family.
If Man City don't make Champs LG spot this season.. Automatic or Qualifiers, w/e then i would see it as a failure for the Club. Mark as spent something like £130,000,000 on players over the year?
With their squad, i don't see why they shouldn't be coming in at no lower then 4th - 6th place.
It's only one player, but it was one of Liverpool's best.
Robbie Fowler had the choice to go to Everton or Liverpool when he was a kid, and he was brought up supporting Everton. He didn't choose a side and whilst Everton tried there best to sign him, he chose Liverpool as they let him have time to choose a club. All Liverpool offered him was £30 a week and that was it... Everton had apparently offered him a house for his family, but his mum and dad told Robbie it was his choice and to choose the team he thought he would do best in, and that was Liverpool.
I'm pretty sure that both Man U and Madrid had a mutural agreement Ronaldo will go to Madrid. SAF Said that he knew about it last year, so no, Madrid didn't do anything wrong with that transfer as they notified Man U last season that they want to sign Ronaldo and both teams agreed to it. It wasn't a case of Madrid and Ronaldo agreeing.
1) Malouda is French.
2) Chelsea will still win this season in my opinion, but not the one after and not the champions League.
3) I think that they will appeal and get it recuded or suspended as stated above.
EDIT: And Clowgon in reply to your post above, if your saying if Man City don't get into the top 4 then there a failure then that's not true at all. Most City fans (that are realistic) are aiming for a 4-7th Spot this season, and the one after to break into the top 4. I don't think they will break into the top 4 until next season when they are all gelled.
The point is we're an English club who have spent £120M on around 12 players. Whereas Real Madrid (a Spanish club may I remind you), have spent £136M on just two players, with more ontop of that!
Now tell me whose more in the wrong here? :rolleyes: And if this is a problem with FIFA, watch City get a punishment, with Real Madrid getting away with it.
Real Madrid have done nothing wrong. I know morally there spending is wrong, and lots of people disagree with it, but there is no rule saying they can't do it. Chelsea aren't being punished for spending, it was breaking a contract between a player and his club.
And has Real Madrid been punished? "NO!!!1" I hear you cry. But have you. No, I didn't think so. Stop huffing.
If you read my past comments in this thread, you will realise how I am saying they will find an excuse for the bigger clubs to have some punishment like Arsenal and Chelsea have recieved in the last week. Browney wanted to know why City could get dragged in, and I said it could be something as stupid as us spending a lot of money, I'm not saying this could be a reason we could get a stupid ban, it could be anything. And I do know what Chelsea did? Don't have to re-explain something to me thank you very much.
Stop huffing? Your the one that asked me to explain why I said City could be dragged for some silly ban like Chelsea and Arsenal have recieved?...
LOL. With what you said there.. i can't see where Liverpool have gone wrong with the signing of Robbie. :P
Ok fair enough.
To the Man City Point... With their current Squad... You have Robinho, Adye, Santa Cruz, Given, a Few good players sitting in Midfield as well as a good group of defenders... I can't see why City can NOT get into the Champions League this season..
Compared to last season, their team is much stronger.
Where did they finish last season? Was it 6th? But ye your right they should be aiming for at least 4th - 7 spot this season.
Any lower, for me, i would have to class that as a failure.
EDIT: and Robald how can i name all the teams LOL?
Sorry if i spelt your name wrong.
Biggest load of crap ever. Our club will pretty much be ruined for next year nd possibly this year. Fifa/Uefa are determined to ruin English football. The Eduardo ban was a disgrace and so is this.
I asked you, why you considered your club to be in the same sentence amongst the biggest and the best of English club football. You replied that it's because you spend alot and people don't like you. Oh boo-hoo. You get to be the best club in English football by the year 2012 and you complain that some french **** doesn't like you.
We premier league supporters need to unite against Fifa instead of tear chunks out of eachother :P
Well I'm sure you we're accusing Liverpool of giving money to parents to get players, and I gave you the example of one of their best young signings, and how he wasn't given a lot of money to sign or anything.
City will finish at best 6th I think. If City don't get 4th-6th spot its because it simple. 'Its Manchester City' absolutely anything can happen at City, and its not often that its a good thing lol.
Don't worry, Chelsea will overturn the ban and will probably only recieve a ban for the January transfer window which won't really affect your squad.
Sends out a clear message to those who don't abide by the rules...
All this talk about Machelda and so, we could of got the same thing..
I'm just shocked really, if they don't get it over turned then I'll be even more shocked.
I think Chelsea will be okish, their squad is fine but a few of the players are going off to the African Cup Of Nations... I'm looking at the fixtures between then and they are fixtures where Chelsea should be winning with or without the players going off the the nations.
Its still ridiculous! Fifa are using the same lame accusation but changing the words to make it seem worse.
They need to buy more strikers.
Does anyone know if Chelsea are still able to buy any players this window with or without the ban?
I wasn't quoting you as such, more everyone that has said why hasn't Madrid been punished but your post was the last one to mention Madrid :P
City have the squad to break into the top 4.
Given, Richards, Toure, Lescott, Bridge, SWP, De Jong, Barry, Robinho, Tevez, Adebayor.
That squad on paper could compete with any top 4 side but they need time to gell. Also, I highly doubt Adebayor's form will continue. He normally gets lazy overtime, and although he is now excited with being with a new club next season that may fade, also he is gone for the African Cup but you have enough to fill his place.
Anyway, Chelsea will suffer next season quite a lot, especially if Ballack retires and if they get injuries. If the African Cup was next season, they would truly be in trouble but they will in my opinion win this season, and come third next season.
Also, there are other effects of not having Transfers. The fans normally get excited by transfers and that gives the players and the club a boost, and also the players themselves get boosts from new players and without these, Chelsea might have less encouragement next season if that makes sence.
Oh, and if they were tracking someone like Aguero or Pato, then they might be snapped up this season or in July and Chelsea could miss out.
Fact is, this ban effects Chelses FC as a trading business also, by stopping Chelsea from making transfers will obviously affect new shirt sales, and fan bases around the world, i.e. if Chelsea bought someone from China (which they can't do now), this ban would further effect Chelsea football club as well as a business because if a player from Chelsea, i.e. Ballack retires, and they get many injuries, it could effect weather they make it into the top four, and if they don't then that means they loose a hell of a lot of money.
If Chelsea take this ban to court then I really do not see how this 'ban' would stand up, Fifa aren't like the government, they shouldn't be aloud to implement bans like this, remember when they were trying to push through the "6 English players and 5 foreign" bullcrap? the EU union soon kicked that one out, and I expect this to be aswell.
Quote me saying that. :rolleyes:
I said it could be the money we've spent, and it could also be because we're looking at becoming a Champions League team in 2/3 years time. Do you have a time machine telling me we'll be the best English club in 2012? I'm not complaining about Platini because of City's sake, I'm complaining because I'm sick of him being against English football clubs overall. If he's made silly bans for Chelsea and Arsenal, whats stopping him creating bans for clubs like Liverpool, United and City? I don't think you would be too happy if you found out that Sunderland were in the same position as Chelsea, because I know I wouldn't be happy like many other people.
Erm, what player have City forced a player to cancel his contract with?
Also I was on about City when they play on the pitch. :rolleyes: Things like when we we're beating West Brom 1-0 and as Dunne ran back to defend a counter attack in the final minute, the ball accidentally bounced of the back of his foot from the lob, and it lobbed are keeper making the game a draw lmao.
Ah OK, sorry then. lol
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