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16-11-2009, 05:59 PM
Ardemax

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Labours' is racist then if that is the case.

The middle bit is not what I said, you can see what I said below which is very clear. I'm afraid judging on background is right because we do not want uneducated/criminals coming here now, do we?

..5 years is the time period needed to sort out the mess this government has created.

that is prejudice and you know it.
MLK fought for these rights and some people simply blow them away. Don't you think immigrants should be treated fairly?
Great, I agree with you, we can't let anybody come here willy-nilly, but you're saying that people who are black are ciminals? Can I get some discrimination in the forum? /sarcasm :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Cod

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D97XgF7rR0

haha i'm sure undertaker will enjoy that vid ^, and personally i'm mainly middley righty (labour dem if you will :8), the tories scare me :(, although they will get in next election.

saw that on the impressions show :P
16-11-2009, 06:06 PM
-:Undertaker:-

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Originally Posted by Cod

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D97XgF7rR0

haha i'm sure undertaker will enjoy that vid ^, and personally i'm mainly middley righty (labour dem if you will :8), the tories scare me :(, although they will get in next election.

By right do you mean right wing? - if so then Labour isn't right win to let you know, its left wing. I like the video though, i've missed them all so far but I loved Dead Ringers. :P

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Originally Posted by Ardemax

that is prejudice and you know it.
MLK fought for these rights and some people simply blow them away. Don't you think immigrants should be treated fairly?
Great, I agree with you, we can't let anybody come here willy-nilly, but you're saying that people who are black are ciminals? Can I get some discrimination in the forum? /sarcasm :rolleyes:

saw that on the impressions show :P

Martin Luther King DID NOT fight for criminals/uneducated people to be allowed into the United Kingdom. Where did I say people who are black are criminals? On you're youtube comment on the UKIP page, you say UKIP are a one-policy party, wrong. They have policies for ALL areas. You make everything up as you go along don't you?
16-11-2009, 06:52 PM
Bun

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

By right do you mean right wing? - if so then Labour isn't right win to let you know, its left wing. I like the video though, i've missed them all so far but I loved Dead Ringers. :P

lmao how embarrasing i put that, i honestly didn't mean to :P. yeah i'm middle left :eusa_wall christ A Level Politics fail.
16-11-2009, 07:02 PM
Ardemax

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Martin Luther King DID NOT fight for criminals/uneducated people to be allowed into the United Kingdom. Where did I say people who are black are criminals? On you're youtube comment on the UKIP page, you say UKIP are a one-policy party, wrong. They have policies for ALL areas. You make everything up as you go along don't you?

"I'm afraid judging on background is right because we do not want uneducated/criminals coming here now, do we?" There we go.

Of course they have policies on all areas, but their name gives it away "UK Independence Party". Which to me sounds like one thing, the UK leaving the EU and therefore becoming independent.
16-11-2009, 08:39 PM
Wig44.

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Originally Posted by Ardemax

"I'm afraid judging on background is right because we do not want uneducated/criminals coming here now, do we?" There we go.

Of course they have policies on all areas, but their name gives it away "UK Independence Party". Which to me sounds like one thing, the UK leaving the EU and therefore becoming independent.

They have excellent policies for all areas, obviously the name is UKIP because their most revolutionary policy is leaving the EU and it is their main concern. That does not, however, detract from their other policies in any way.
16-11-2009, 08:50 PM
-:Undertaker:-

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Originally Posted by Ardemax

"I'm afraid judging on background is right because we do not want uneducated/criminals coming here now, do we?" There we go.

Of course they have policies on all areas, but their name gives it away "UK Independence Party". Which to me sounds like one thing, the UK leaving the EU and therefore becoming independent.

How is that connected with race?

The European Union makes 84% of our laws, so to be in government and to be able to do anything really effective you would need to withdraw from the European Union. I have heard anyway they are planning to change to Independance Party which would cover their conservative stance, independance for the individual, independance for schools, independance for the United Kingdom and so on.
17-11-2009, 06:40 AM
Ardemax

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

How is that connected with race?

The European Union makes 84% of our laws, so to be in government and to be able to do anything really effective you would need to withdraw from the European Union. I have heard anyway they are planning to change to Independance Party which would cover their conservative stance, independance for the individual, independance for schools, independance for the United Kingdom and so on.

the hell has that got anything to do with my post?

"Judging on background"? That could be mistaken from... their background.

Also I think alex answered in bold - seeing how it hasn't got anything to do with my post..
17-11-2009, 10:11 PM
-:Undertaker:-

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Originally Posted by Ardemax

the hell has that got anything to do with my post?

"Judging on background"? That could be mistaken from... their background.

Also I think alex answered in bold - seeing how it hasn't got anything to do with my post..

You say you don't like UKIP because they are a one policy-based party (even though they are not), I then posted that withdrawal from the EU is their main policy because it makes 84% of our laws, meaning that if it isn't your policy to withdraw then you are only voting for somebody to make 16% of your laws, which is pointless.

..background means are they educated, are they a criminal, do we need the, do we want them, can we afford them - all the common sense questions which people want asked of people who are coming to this country.
18-11-2009, 06:29 AM
Ardemax

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

You say you don't like UKIP because they are a one policy-based party (even though they are not), I then posted that withdrawal from the EU is their main policy because it makes 84% of our laws, meaning that if it isn't your policy to withdraw then you are only voting for somebody to make 16% of your laws, which is pointless.

..background means are they educated, are they a criminal, do we need the, do we want them, can we afford them - all the common sense questions which people want asked of people who are coming to this country.

ye, it's the only policy they "big up".

great, we don't want criminals in this country, superb. can we deport ours?
18-11-2009, 11:24 PM
-:Undertaker:-

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Originally Posted by Ardemax

ye, it's the only policy they "big up".

great, we don't want criminals in this country, superb. can we deport ours?

Yes well it would be, common sense would say that the thing that creates 84% of our laws would be the thing you tackle first, just like in 1979 when Thatcher traced all the countries problems back to the unions, and dealth with them.

No we sadly can't deport ours, but we can stop more coming in and making the problem worse.
19-11-2009, 06:33 AM
Ardemax

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Yes well it would be, common sense would say that the thing that creates 84% of our laws would be the thing you tackle first, just like in 1979 when Thatcher traced all the countries problems back to the unions, and dealth with them.

No we sadly can't deport ours, but we can stop more coming in and making the problem worse.

Yeah great, stop criminals... if they have a record. If they don't? Are you going to assume they look "dodgy" and turn them away?
19-11-2009, 04:40 PM
-:Undertaker:-
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Originally Posted by Ardemax

Yeah great, stop criminals... if they have a record. If they don't? Are you going to assume they look "dodgy" and turn them away?

I did not say that, I said perfectly clearly;
- If you have a criminal record - no entry.
- If we do not need you - no entry.
19-11-2009, 05:27 PM
Ardemax
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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I did not say that, I said perfectly clearly;

If you have a criminal record - no entry.
If we do not need you - no entry.
ye great, why don't we throw the people we don't need, out now?

also, do you mean as in jobs terms? if someone is a qualified doctor etc.? but if immigrants want to clean toilets let them? nobody here would do it
19-11-2009, 05:49 PM
-:Undertaker:-

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Originally Posted by Ardemax

ye great, why don't we throw the people we don't need, out now?

also, do you mean as in jobs terms? if someone is a qualified doctor etc.? but if immigrants want to clean toilets let them? nobody here would do it

We cannot throw people out here who we do not need, use some common sense as no other country would accept them. We can however stop that unemployment pile growing and focus on cutting it down, rather than accepting more unemployed/unemployable people from other countries.

On that, if we need doctors then yes come in, if we need cleaners then yes come in. If we dont, then you dont come in - very simple.
20-11-2009, 06:45 AM
Ardemax

yes, very simple and i haven't said we shouldn't let these people in
20-11-2009, 07:15 PM
-:Undertaker:-

..so what was your point?
21-11-2009, 11:26 AM
Ardemax

my point was something about what you said about the BNP

not this border control stuff

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