Apple vs Google - Getting Personal.

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17-03-2010, 12:23 AM
GommeInc

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

More on what I said about deeming your guys opinions irrelevant: several of you have said some things I don't quite find accurate. For example when Vista was the operating system of choice for a lot of you and I took it upon myself to tell you how horrible it was you disagreed saying there's nothing wrong with Vista and that I was nuts, yett, when Windows 7 rolls around most of you magically have an epiphany and you're now looking through the same glasses as I am, saying it does suck? Why on Earth am I going to now care what you have to say when it's so plainly obvious you're going to follow whatever's new from Microsoft :S

Are people not allowed to upgrade their computers now :S Vista was good and useable for me, but I liked 7. No harm done :/
17-03-2010, 12:59 AM
HotelUser

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Originally Posted by N!ck

I'm sorry, I've never been a big Vista fan and have never really used it as my primary OS. The service packs fixed a lot of the issues but I'm still not a fan. You want to know why? Because it's more like OS X in the sense of "end users are idiots so let's hide all of the things that more advanced users might want to do and make them more effort to get at" and "lets make it do stuff automatically in the background to make everything "better" but not really let the user have much say in what's going on". Windows 7 is also like this in some ways IMO, not not as bad. It's still far better than XP.

Vista was fail. The iPad will be fail.

Also, this whole multi-touch thing really pisses me off. It's like saying "we were the first people to make scroll wheels on mice work with our OS so let's patent it and not let anyone else use it". Ludicrous hardware patents that actually stop other companies from advancing and being competitors.

I might agree with some points depending on what you're saying OS X and Vista are hiding from advanced users that they would care about. I've customized my OS X installation quite abit, and when I was unfortunate enough to run Vista lack of flexibility wouldn't have been my biggest complaint, either.
17-03-2010, 07:51 AM
AgnesIO

I NEVER used Vista on my main PC.

And fantastic news marriot. I have always wanted a £450 thing that is great to display photos. I mean at least come up with something it is good for, apart from bloody photos.
17-03-2010, 03:13 PM
HotelUser

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Originally Posted by Android

I NEVER used Vista on my main PC.

And fantastic news marriot. I have always wanted a £450 thing that is great to display photos. I mean at least come up with something it is good for, apart from bloody photos.

Allow me:
1. Many and easy access to finger friendly applications
2. Good gaming support considering it's a mobile platform
3. Good web browsing and E-mail client for a mobile platform
4. It's instant on, unlike netbooks which have to boot a full operating system to use, and tend not to have good standby time

But anyway that's what Apple's saying really. I wont buy an iPad anytime soon but I probably will by one or an iPad like device over another Netbook. I'm just not stupid enough to hate on the iPad before I use one. Doing that wouldn't make me look like the typical mr. Microsoft Apple hater at all!
17-03-2010, 04:02 PM
Firehorse

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

4. It's instant on, unlike netbooks which have to boot a full operating system to use, and tend not to have good standby time

It isn't instant on, thats only if you leave it on lock/standby which you can also do with computers if thats what you call "instant on". My iPod Touch takes as long as my main PC to boot up.
17-03-2010, 04:40 PM
marriott0.01

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Originally Posted by Stutoman

It isn't instant on, thats only if you leave it on lock/standby which you can also do with computers if thats what you call "instant on". My iPod Touch takes as long as my main PC to boot up.

Just thought I'd interject their. iPhone OS has tended to run on crappy processors and hardware, the iPod Touch Processor is like 256mHz or something... Whereas the Processor for the iPad is 1Ghz which means it SHOULD be instantly on near enough :)
17-03-2010, 04:44 PM
Recursion

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Originally Posted by marriott0.02

Just thought I'd interject their. iPhone OS has tended to run on crappy processors and hardware, the iPod Touch Processor is like 256mHz or something... Whereas the Processor for the iPad is 1Ghz which means it SHOULD be instantly on near enough :)

Even with a 1GHz CPU, The iPad OS won't boot up very quickly at all, but then again, who ever turns their iPod Touchs or (will) turn their iPad off? :S
17-03-2010, 04:50 PM
lazerman

Apple just wants to win and make lots of money

google just wants the best for it users.

google ftw.
17-03-2010, 04:56 PM
marriott0.01

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Originally Posted by lazerman

Apple just wants to win and make lots of money

google just wants the best for it users.

google ftw.

Google is just as much in it for the money but they can offer their services for free, because you don't notice where they get their money from, annoying little advertisements. Everyone company is in it for the money, so that's really an invalid point.
17-03-2010, 04:59 PM
lazerman

So? Advertisements...yumm

Better than overpriced ****** products with a ******** with his head so far up his arse.
17-03-2010, 05:02 PM
marriott0.01

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Originally Posted by lazerman

So? Advertisements...yumm

Better than overpriced ****** products with a ******** with his head so far up his arse.

Your just here to criticise Apple, who is an incredibly successful company, please if you want to stay in this thread please post constructively and don't just troll. At least most people here have explained why they hate Apple.

And overpriced? Erm you generally pay for the amount the product is worth, Apple actually has a less profit margin then a company like say Microsoft, because Microsoft's products worth compared to their sell price is very high, while Apple's is very low.
17-03-2010, 05:07 PM
lazerman

More people buy Microsoft stuff then apples anyways? obvs there gonna be a bigger profit margin.

Oh, My school has Apple only computers. I owned and still own iPhones, iPods, macbook. So I do have a lot of experience then most of you in this bloody forum thanks.

As I said, He still so far up his arse.
17-03-2010, 05:21 PM
marriott0.01

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Originally Posted by lazerman

More people buy Microsoft stuff then apples anyways? obvs there gonna be a bigger profit margin.

Oh, My school has Apple only computers. I owned and still own iPhones, iPods, macbook. So I do have a lot of experience then most of you in this bloody forum thanks.

As I said, He still so far up his arse.

Who exactly is he?
17-03-2010, 05:23 PM
lazerman

Steve Jobs?
17-03-2010, 05:24 PM
AgnesIO

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Originally Posted by marriott0.02

Who exactly is he?

Jobs obviously? :S

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Originally Posted by marriott0.02

Your just here to criticise Apple, who is an incredibly successful company, please if you want to stay in this thread please post constructively and don't just troll. At least most people here have explained why they hate Apple.

And overpriced? Erm you generally pay for the amount the product is worth, Apple actually has a less profit margin then a company like say Microsoft, because Microsoft's products worth compared to their sell price is very high, while Apple's is very low.

Is that joke. You re saying he iPad is WORTH £400? You are saying iMac's are WORTH 999$? Dont make me laugh.
17-03-2010, 05:26 PM
lazerman

I bet he asked me that question to trick me out

hahaha
17-03-2010, 05:28 PM
marriott0.01

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Originally Posted by Android

Jobs obviously? :S

Is that joke. You re saying he iPad is WORTH £400? You are saying iMac's are WORTH 999$? Dont make me laugh.

I would say that the £1,174 I paid for my old old old MacBook Pro was WELL worth it. I was thoroughly pleased that I had no headaches etc... And it simply just worked. I had to spend little much after that, all I essentially bought for the laptop after that was things like iWork. Pretty much it.. So it had great value for money, and since then I've been Mac user predominantly.
17-03-2010, 05:50 PM
AgnesIO

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Originally Posted by marriott0.02

I would say that the £1,174 I paid for my old old old MacBook Pro was WELL worth it. I was thoroughly pleased that I had no headaches etc... And it simply just worked. I had to spend little much after that, all I essentially bought for the laptop after that was things like iWork. Pretty much it.. So it had great value for money, and since then I've been Mac user predominantly.

Yet I could buy a HP laptop for £500, with the SAME specs and be VERY pleased with that.

And you go on about us not accepting things hat you believe, yet you refuse to accept that Google is more like than Apple? Even though your poll is obvious.. but still - I guess some people just wont take it ?
17-03-2010, 05:52 PM
marriott0.01

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Originally Posted by Android

Yet I could buy a HP laptop for £500, with the SAME specs and be VERY pleased with that.

And you go on about us not accepting things hat you believe, yet you refuse to accept that Google is more like than Apple? Even though your poll is obvious.. but still - I guess some people just wont take it ?

I've never said Apple is more liked than Google, and I'm sure 19 people voting in a poll on this forum wouldn't exactly make them results valid much? And I have said I DO like Google, I just think companies shouldn't steal other people's things...
17-03-2010, 06:27 PM
lazerman

Example of google stealing off apple.

I want to hear it from your own words.
17-03-2010, 06:31 PM
marriott0.01

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Originally Posted by lazerman

Example of google stealing off apple.

I want to hear it from your own words.

Erm they implemented Multi-touch without Apple's permission, who owns the patent.
17-03-2010, 06:40 PM
N!ck

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Originally Posted by marriott0.02

Erm they implemented Multi-touch without Apple's permission, who owns the patent.

Multi-touch is a natural technological progression. Things like that shouldn't be patented.

It's like Apple saying they patented DVD burners. Everyone else then has just to read disks and not write them unless on an Apple because they patented it even though DVD-RW is the natural technological progression from DVD-ROM.

Probably not the best example.
17-03-2010, 07:03 PM
Firehorse

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Originally Posted by N!ck

Multi-touch is a natural technological progression. Things like that shouldn't be patented.

It's like Apple saying they patented DVD burners. Everyone else then has just to read disks and not write them unless on an Apple because they patented it even though DVD-RW is the natural technological progression from DVD-ROM.

Probably not the best example.

A better example would be if a games producer had decided to patent games being 3D after they stopped being 2D, where would we be today if that had happened?
17-03-2010, 07:06 PM
AgnesIO

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Originally Posted by marriott0.02

Erm they implemented Multi-touch without Apple's permission, who owns the patent.

Clearly it doesn't matter or it would have been banned.
17-03-2010, 07:42 PM
Titch

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Originally Posted by marriott0.02

I've never said Apple is more liked than Google, and I'm sure 19 people voting in a poll on this forum wouldn't exactly make them results valid much? And I have said I DO like Google, I just think companies shouldn't steal other people's things...

Apple dont steal ideas LOOOOOOOL, they have had over 160 lawsuites against them in past 10 years for stealing.......

Heres a article describing some of things they have stolen http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/05/a...g-off-artists/
17-03-2010, 07:50 PM
lazerman

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Originally Posted by marriott0.02

Erm they implemented Multi-touch without Apple's permission, who owns the patent.

Cool, Who cares?

>.<

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Originally Posted by Titch

Apple dont steal ideas LOOOOOOOL, they have had over 160 lawsuites against them in past 10 years for stealing.......

Heres a article describing some of things they have stolen http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/05/a...g-off-artists/

Who said anything about apple stealing ideas?

No thanx
17-03-2010, 07:50 PM
lazerman

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Originally Posted by marriott0.02

Erm they implemented Multi-touch without Apple's permission, who owns the patent.

Cool, Who cares?

>.<

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Originally Posted by Titch

Apple dont steal ideas LOOOOOOOL, they have had over 160 lawsuites against them in past 10 years for stealing.......

Heres a article describing some of things they have stolen http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/05/a...g-off-artists/

Who said anything about apple stealing ideas?

No thanx

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