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07-08-2010, 03:45 PM
sammy

Yes that most certainly is the problem. I think management need to really go through the staff list and work out which members of staff aren't doing as much as they should and warn/remove these DJs. Applications would then be opened so hopefully we'd get some fresh blood and a new set of DJs that will work hard!

I think new DJs are going to come shortly anyway so the problem should really improve.
07-08-2010, 03:48 PM
Robbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds

You're called international DJ's because you DJ at international hours.

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie

I'm really confused though, isn't there like 50 djs ;s surely you can get 12 slots pre-booked a day

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangsteragent

If we were only supposed to DJ at international hours why isn't there a rule? Clearly the management don't feel the same.

Well I think you should DJ at UK times but only if there are absolutely no online UK DJs to cover.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnknownQuantity

If we only let Intl Djs do Intl times slots the radio would in theory be offline for the majority because most of the UK DJs put in no effort what so ever so you should be glad that there are Intl DJs to do peak times in the UK .

Well if International DJs stopped doing UK cover slots maybe management would see how lazy some of the UK ones are. (I know I've contradicted myself with my above point - above I am saying if it is URGENT and NO UK DJs are online)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds

Do the management expect to hire lazy UK DJ's who don't DJ during UK peak times? Fact of the matter is if the UK DJ's weren't lazy you'd be DJing international hours.

+1
07-08-2010, 04:00 PM
scottish

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangsteragent

The past is when you have been here. Actually honestlly, yesterday I was looking through the old forums. Because I was bored. Came across a few things but now there hasn't been a thread like that in ages. You resigned in January, I understand that back then everyone was active but this is now. about 7 months later and the problem is different then it was back then.

Then get active staff...
07-08-2010, 04:00 PM
Inseriousity.

I have also listened to HxL a bit since the last thread for the same reason. Generally the shows have been quite entertaining, the 'telephone' song, 99% of them couldnt sing but I found it funny the first time (the 'eh eh eh' bit sounded like that woman from Little Britain :P).. second, not so much. third, not at all. I never heard the kazopark ad that everyone moans about though :(

There is one thing I can't stand and that's the double DJ shows! Someone's talking, someone interupts and you miss half the conversation. 2's normally okay but 3's a nightmare to try and listen to!
07-08-2010, 04:02 PM
Robbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

I have also listened to HxL a bit since the last thread for the same reason. Generally the shows have been quite entertaining, the 'telephone' song, 99% of them couldnt sing but I found it funny the first time (the 'eh eh eh' bit sounded like that woman from Little Britain :P).. second, not so much. third, not at all. I never heard the kazopark ad that everyone moans about though :(

There is one thing I can't stand and that's the double DJ shows! Someone's talking, someone interupts and you miss half the conversation. 2's normally okay but 3's a nightmare to try and listen to!

Oh yeah that's another thing. Shows with more than one DJ generally bore me because they chat for ageees before playing another song and its usually like "ummm what shall i play bob?" "umm i dont know joe, u pick", "ummmmmmmmmm"

EDIT: @scotttttttttttish: +1
07-08-2010, 04:03 PM
gangstaagent1

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottish

Then get active staff...

Scott try talking to Jess about it... Because her and Gemma are the only ones that can do something about it.
07-08-2010, 04:03 PM
sammy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

I have also listened to HxL a bit since the last thread for the same reason. Generally the shows have been quite entertaining, the 'telephone' song, 99% of them couldnt sing but I found it funny the first time (the 'eh eh eh' bit sounded like that woman from Little Britain :P).. second, not so much. third, not at all. I never heard the kazopark ad that everyone moans about though :(

There is one thing I can't stand and that's the double DJ shows! Someone's talking, someone interupts and you miss half the conversation. 2's normally okay but 3's a nightmare to try and listen to!

Shows with 3 DJs are very rare and usually it's just the Chatathon that do that. It's a rule now that you can't have 3 djs on air without asking permission from Jess/Gemma so they only happen in very special circumstances!
07-08-2010, 04:05 PM
Inseriousity.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammify

Shows with 3 DJs are very rare and usually it's just the Chatathon that do that. It's a rule now that you can't have 3 djs on air without asking permission from Jess/Gemma so they only happen in very special circumstances!

Without trying to offend the DJs involved but that's the show I'm talking about :(
If you're going to have a show with 3 DJs with lots of opinions all over the place, can we please have some sort of structure to it? Sure, it's not always possible to follow a schedule but if there's some sort of basic plan, it might flow better.
07-08-2010, 04:06 PM
gangstaagent1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

Without trying to offend the DJs involved but that's the show I'm talking about :(
If you're going to have a show with 3 DJs with lots of opinions all over the place, can we please have some sort of structure to it? Sure, it's not always possible to follow a schedule but if there's some sort of basic plan, it might flow better.

Are you suggesting we remove the show?

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07-08-2010, 04:08 PM
Richie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

Without trying to offend the DJs involved but that's the show I'm talking about :(
If you're going to have a show with 3 DJs with lots of opinions all over the place, can we please have some sort of structure to it? Sure, it's not always possible to follow a schedule but if there's some sort of basic plan, it might flow better.

Thats what I said in previous threads, I think djs should be told they must have some sort of script for each show. For obvious reasons.

@Gangsteragent

When did he ever suggest that ;s he suggested that you should have some sort of order written up.
07-08-2010, 04:09 PM
Inseriousity.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangsteragent

Are you suggesting we remove the show?

No, read what I said :)
07-08-2010, 04:10 PM
sammy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie

Thats what I said in previous threads, I think djs should be told they must have some sort of script for each show. For obvious reasons.

I don't agree with this. At the end of the day HxL is aimed at young teenagers, being blunt and straight to the point is just boring for them and this causes them to tune out. It'd end up being obvious that you're reading from a script and I think in some cases you'd just sound like some sort of robot :P.
07-08-2010, 04:11 PM
gangstaagent1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

No, read what I said :)

We do have a basic plan when we host it. Before hand we talk about the topics etc.. But the thing is on skype there is a few seconds of lag between people talking so sometimes people talk over other people without even realizing it. and we can't have a schedule because we don't know how many people are going to give opinions etc..
07-08-2010, 04:12 PM
Richie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammify

I don't agree with this. At the end of the day HxL is aimed at young teenagers, being blunt and straight to the point is just boring for them and this causes them to tune out. It'd end up being obvious that you're reading from a script and I think in some cases you'd just sound like some sort of robot :P.

Hardly.. stumbling over words and haven't a clue what to do next is 'boring'.
07-08-2010, 04:14 PM
Robbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammify

I don't agree with this. At the end of the day HxL is aimed at young teenagers, being blunt and straight to the point is just boring for them and this causes them to tune out. It'd end up being obvious that you're reading from a script and I think in some cases you'd just sound like some sort of robot :P.

Don't have a script on what you're going to say - plan what will be in the show like comps etc and what you are going to talk about. Queue about 10 songs then when people request, add the requests and reorder the queue accordingly - so you're never stuck for what to play.

Look at the requests and shoutouts while the song is playing so you can get the request in the queue and know which you're going to read. (Not aiming this at you in particular lol)
07-08-2010, 04:16 PM
gangstaagent1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Don't have a script on what you're going to say - plan what will be in the show like comps etc and what you are going to talk about. Queue about 10 songs then when people request, add the requests and reorder the queue accordingly - so you're never stuck for what to play.

Look at the requests and shoutouts while the song is playing so you can get the request in the queue and know which you're going to read. (Not aiming this at you in particular lol)

You can't plan a queue ahead because if someone requests something then you have to re-arrange it. Then it takes off your time and people in the party room leave because the DJ ain't active talking etc.. And then if your queue goes over then you have to remove songs that you have placed and it starts to get quite a hassle tbh
07-08-2010, 04:18 PM
sammy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Don't have a script on what you're going to say - plan what will be in the show like comps etc and what you are going to talk about. Queue about 10 songs then when people request, add the requests and reorder the queue accordingly - so you're never stuck for what to play.

Look at the requests and shoutouts while the song is playing so you can get the request in the queue and know which you're going to read. (Not aiming this at you in particular lol)

Yeah I certainly agree with this. Richie said a "script" which I don't agree with but I think a plan would work well. It'd probably sound more professional but not too boring at the same time, I often find myself without ideas for a competition and end up doing it in the last 5 minutes or so, and a plan would obviously stop that and stop cramming things in. I've never really thought about that outside of organising my perm show and I genuinely think this is a great idea.

Edit: @Matt you wouldn't even need to add them to the queue necessarily, just write them down in a notepad document so you can easily add them in as and when. It'd get rid of all the "oh i don't know what to play, hmmmmmmmmm" business :P. It could even bring some variety if you put some songs from different genres etc in.
07-08-2010, 04:19 PM
Alex3213

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammify

I don't agree with this. At the end of the day HxL is aimed at young teenagers, being blunt and straight to the point is just boring for them and this causes them to tune out. It'd end up being obvious that you're reading from a script and I think in some cases you'd just sound like some sort of robot :P.

I know when I was productions staff I had to write some sort of plan to know what I'm doing. Had I not then I know for a fact that I would have nothing to say. I'm afraid to say that this applies to some DJs here and there should be some sort of theme for every show. Even if there are "covers needed", they would need some sort of backup plans ready so then they have something to discuss. "um er so yeah right ok" is not really something I would like to listen to.

Having said this, Garion is right. HxL has improved and now is getting over 100 listeners quite a lot of the time. Well done. There is still room for improvement and activity is really important for this, and something needs to be done about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangsteragent

You can't plan a queue ahead because if someone requests something then you have to re-arrange it. Then it takes off your time and people in the party room leave because the DJ ain't active talking etc.. And then if your queue goes over then you have to remove songs that you have placed and it starts to get quite a hassle tbh

Then don't plan 45 odd minutes of songs. Plan 25 minutes or so. This means that there are still requests inside the show, but some different music as well. Also, with the new "Music History", I urge HxL DJs to read it, and if it has been in the last 20 songs or so, PLEASE don't play it with a few exceptions.
07-08-2010, 04:21 PM
sammy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex3213

I know when I was productions staff I had to write some sort of plan to know what I'm doing. Had I not then I know for a fact that I would have nothing to say. I'm afraid to say that this applies to some DJs here and there should be some sort of theme for every show. Even if there are "covers needed", they would need some sort of backup plans ready so then they have something to discuss. "um er so yeah right ok" is not really something I would like to listen to.

Having said this, Garion is right. HxL has improved and now is getting over 100 listeners quite a lot of the time. Well done. There is still room for improvement and activity is really important for this, and something needs to be done about it.

Yeah I was under the impression that Richie meant a literally word-to-word script instead of a general plan. :P

double post :|

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07-08-2010, 04:21 PM
Richie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammify

Yeah I certainly agree with this. Richie said a "script" which I don't agree with but I think a plan would work well. It'd probably sound more professional but not too boring at the same time, I often find myself without ideas for a competition and end up doing it in the last 5 minutes or so, and a plan would obviously stop that and stop cramming things in. I've never really thought about that outside of organising my perm show and I genuinely think this is a great idea.

Yeah a script.. a script is basically preparing for a performance. Do you really think I'm that ******ed to expect yous to read word for word off a piece of paper? :s
Sometimes I go into dublin city fm to help out and they have running orders (scripts) that show what song they are going to play next, what they will be talking about and when to play adverts.
07-08-2010, 04:22 PM
Robbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangsteragent

You can't plan a queue ahead because if someone requests something then you have to re-arrange it. Then it takes off your time and people in the party room leave because the DJ ain't active talking etc.. And then if your queue goes over then you have to remove songs that you have placed and it starts to get quite a hassle tbh

Well the average song is what, say 3 minutes? Drag and drop a few songs into the queue which will take like 30 seconds at most then get back to Habbo
07-08-2010, 04:23 PM
Richie

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangsteragent

You can't plan a queue ahead because if someone requests something then you have to re-arrange it. Then it takes off your time and people in the party room leave because the DJ ain't active talking etc.. And then if your queue goes over then you have to remove songs that you have placed and it starts to get quite a hassle tbh

It takes a few seconds lets not fool ourselves.
07-08-2010, 04:23 PM
Alex3213

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangsteragent

You can't plan a queue ahead because if someone requests something then you have to re-arrange it. Then it takes off your time and people in the party room leave because the DJ ain't active talking etc.. And then if your queue goes over then you have to remove songs that you have placed and it starts to get quite a hassle tbh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie

It takes a few seconds lets not fool ourselfs.

This.

Also, just to add on my previous post. What on earth has happened to the Song History page? No songs on there whatsoever.
07-08-2010, 04:24 PM
xxMATTGxx

Maybe not scripts but you surely can plan some of the shows. If it's a special show or a weekly show you do then they can be planned for sure, maybe have a list of things you want to talk about and a list of songs you want to play. Yeah you will get requests but hey are easy enough to drop in. (Just like dropping files onto your desktop, it's that easy! :P)
07-08-2010, 04:26 PM
Richie

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Maybe not scripts but you surely can plan some of the shows. If it's a special show or a weekly show you do then they can be planned for sure, maybe have a list of things you want to talk about and a list of songs you want to play. Yeah you will get requests but hey are easy enough to drop in. (Just like dropping files onto your desktop, it's that easy! :P)

People got the wrong impression. I meant scripts in the sense of a running order, what to do next etc.
07-08-2010, 04:26 PM
Alex3213

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Maybe not scripts but you surely can plan some of the shows. If it's a special show or a weekly show you do then they can be planned for sure, maybe have a list of things you want to talk about and a list of songs you want to play. Yeah you will get requests but hey are easy enough to drop in. (Just like dropping files onto your desktop, it's that easy! :P)

That's what he meant. :P

I disagree with the "some". It should be all shows, and evenif you're covering you should be able to come up with a quick discussion topic and a competition if you feel like it.
07-08-2010, 04:28 PM
Inseriousity.

Yeah like a teacher using a lesson plan. They have a beginning, middle and an end. Doesn't always work but they always try to redirect the topic back to the plan as quickly as possible - well, a good teacher does anyway :P. It would probably work wonders for these double shows where there should definitely be some sort of 'leader' assigned (a bit like Loose Women where they have 4 women, 1 leader leading the discussion and keeping things in control, its a guilty pleasure :() to try to keep things running smoothly rather than the

'what song shall we play now?'
'dunno, you pick',
'no you pick',
'no you hang up!' (okay im exaggerating but you get the point :P)
07-08-2010, 04:29 PM
xxMATTGxx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex3213

That's what he meant. :P

I disagree with the "some". It should be all shows, and evenif you're covering you should be able to come up with a quick discussion topic and a competition if you feel like it.

I suppose they could in a way. Depends on how easy/hard they may find it finding something to speak about!
07-08-2010, 04:32 PM
sammy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

Yeah like a teacher using a lesson plan. They have a beginning, middle and an end. Doesn't always work but they always try to redirect the topic back to the plan as quickly as possible - well, a good teacher does anyway :P. It would probably work wonders for these double shows where there should definitely be some sort of 'leader' assigned (a bit like Loose Women where they have 4 women, 1 leader leading the discussion and keeping things in control, its a guilty pleasure :() to try to keep things running smoothly rather than the

'what song shall we play now?'
'dunno, you pick',
'no you pick',
'no you hang up!' (okay im exaggerating but you get the point :P)

Yeah just like that. I think that should certainly be added to the DJ Handbook at least as an idea, if not it could be introduced as a rule, that's up to Jess/Gemma though! :)

I'll use this idea for my show tonight & see whether it flows easier or not. :D
07-08-2010, 04:33 PM
Alex3213

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

Yeah like a teacher using a lesson plan. They have a beginning, middle and an end. Doesn't always work but they always try to redirect the topic back to the plan as quickly as possible - well, a good teacher does anyway :P. It would probably work wonders for these double shows where there should definitely be some sort of 'leader' assigned (a bit like Loose Women where they have 4 women, 1 leader leading the discussion and keeping things in control, its a guilty pleasure :() to try to keep things running smoothly rather than the

'what song shall we play now?'
'dunno, you pick',
'no you pick',
'no you hang up!' (okay im exaggerating but you get the point :P)

"ok!"
But yeah agreed, personally it should be the one who has booked the slot. They've booked it, they should take the responsibility.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

I suppose they could in a way. Depends on how easy/hard they may find it finding something to speak about!

I know what you mean, but there's plenty of things to talk about. Even using HxF to help you would be useful (not saying directly take a question which has been asked on here but something as inspiration)
07-08-2010, 04:37 PM
Robbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex3213

"ok!"
But yeah agreed, personally it should be the one who has booked the slot. They've booked it, they should take the responsibility.

I know what you mean, but there's plenty of things to talk about. Even using HxF to help you would be useful (not saying directly take a question which has been asked on here but something as inspiration)

Could link it in with HxF advertising. "So, over on HabboxForum.com I found a really interesting discussion on bin bags, let me know your thoughts on bin bags via the request line and a prize will be given out at random! If you want to read more discussions like this then why not head on down to habboxforum.com!"
07-08-2010, 04:39 PM
gangstaagent1

Most Djs advertise HxF already..
07-08-2010, 04:39 PM
Robbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangsteragent

Most Djs advertise HxF already..

Never said they didn't. I said they could link both together.
07-08-2010, 04:40 PM
Alex3213

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Could link it in with HxF advertising. "So, over on HabboxForum.com I found a really interesting discussion on bin bags, let me know your thoughts on bin bags via the request line and a prize will be given out at random! If you want to read more discussions like this then why not head on down to habboxforum.com!"

+rep

More HxF competitions as HxL ones. It always makes listeners register and I know Keri does them now and then, but there's such a wide range of things to post as a competition, and also would work both ways, would encourage HxF users to tune into HxL- as well as promoting discussion. It wouldn't even have to say [HxL] Competition as the title, it could be an active discussion but in the post it could mention "This is a HabboxLive competition under 17:50 BST today". This way the discussion goes further.
07-08-2010, 05:03 PM
Catzsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richie

- Fire the djs not willing to dj
- hire me as radio manager ;l

sorted.

Well bringing you back as a DJ would be a good start! You were very good.
07-08-2010, 05:14 PM
scottish

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catzsy

Well bringing you back as a DJ would be a good start! You were very good.

Have to admire your humour

But yeh i agree, if staff aren't actively booking slots and such fiyad.
07-08-2010, 05:16 PM
Catzsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottish

Have to admire your humour

But yeh i agree, if staff aren't actively booking slots and such fiyad.

I was being serious - he is very good. I really enjoyed his shows.
07-08-2010, 05:20 PM
Minstrels

lemme dj.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-9Hfq4VJpA

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...FattyDance.gif
07-08-2010, 05:33 PM
beth

LOL HI LAZY UK DJ HERE.

i kinda get pissed off alot of things, but the first one is being called lazy. i average around about 5/6 slots a week. i work 40 hours a week. i may not cover as much as other staff but this is because i am out paying taxes and stuff. habboxlive is not my life. i think dedicating 6 hours a week is perfectly acceptable. i want to dj because i ENJOY it not because i feel like i'm being forced on air.

secondly; about planning shows; i plan all of mine.
notepad document.
queue certain songs up and then drag and drop.
07-08-2010, 05:39 PM
scottish

Imho minimum should be 4 hours a week

With 37 staff at 4 hours a week, thats 148 hours a week of the 168 available.

Obviously if someones on holiday or something then it's not going to be hard to cover their 4 hours.

If someone isn't doing 4 hours a week i wouldn't think twice about firing them.

If they have a valid reason then fair enough (i.e hospital or something) but 4 hours a week is not hard at all, and if a member isn't putting that into it they shouldn't be here

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