Lol @ how so many missed FJs joke.
Waiting until marriage? The mere thought of that scares me. Once you take religion out of the picture, i never understood why there are still many who wait until marriage.
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Lol @ how so many missed FJs joke.
Waiting until marriage? The mere thought of that scares me. Once you take religion out of the picture, i never understood why there are still many who wait until marriage.
Since when ??Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
so god put himself inside a virgin and he is his own son ? huh ??
Well you can't really come across "God" seeing as He's a Holy Spirit overseeing the Universe (or at least Christians believe this) before you imagine him climbing into Mary's vagina. There's God the Father, God the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit all of which make up "God".Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoe
Jesus is essentially God's presence on earth. There's various points in the Bible where he implies than he is God and something which he never denies either such as in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.”
Feel free to dispute parts of my post btw I might have grasped some bits wrong and a lot of it is open to debate even within Christianity.
You're about right i used to be very confused about this (still am a bit).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordy
it's kinda goes like this.
The father is not jesus, the holy spirit is not the father, Jesus is not the holy spirit and visa versa for them all.
But Jesus is the one god, the holy spirit is the one god and the father is the one god.
Hope it makes sense
I do get it but it is never said that god is jesus or whatever... they may be one but jesus is god on earth yet god isnt on earth so are not the same... just give the same teachings if you get me?? tbh i think its all a load of rubbish anyway :P
It's frequently said that Jesus is God on earth and the Son of God.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoe
God isn't a real person nor has he even been on earth, therefore Jesus who was a real person represents "God" on earth. He was put on earth to perform miracles and spread the word of Christianity (and God). You need to get your head round the concept of what is God before you'll understand it. I don't believe in any of it but it's useful and to an extent interesting to know never the less.
yehh thats what i was trying to say basically but just didnt explain it very well :P
I always thought that Jesus was God's son. Lmao
Boys lie. No offience to any guys out there. They will say they love you, and want you, and only you. But, they don't. They just want a few seconds of pleasure. Plus, you don't truly know where he has been. You could get any type of diease that may lay dormat on them. My advice, if he truly loves you, he would marry you first. :) -Katie
No offence but adults were kids once. My girlfriend's dad is defiantly in love with his wife, you can tell. He'd do anything for her - they've been together since they were in their teens. But boys can't love right?Quote:
Originally Posted by :.:kaytay:.:
I'm a rather stereotypical lad. I love sex, lots, with lots of people. Lads like variety! But there will come a time when that part of your life is over, you meet someone.. settle down/fall in love. Marriage doesn't prove that you truly love someone, lots of people have affairs even when they're married, or even people split up.
With regards to "you don't know where he has been". If you really aren't able to trust someone, then you shouldn't be going there. Or you can always use protection, that way you're safe. (Unless it fails of course).
Sorry but the comment above really showed signs of immaturity to me, tad annoyed!
We aren't all *****, are we boys?
Love is such a strong word. Personally if I dated a girl and she started yapping on about marriage I'd be a little scared. Without some sort of sexual intimacy technically they aren't your boyfriend / girlfriend, they are just a close friend. That makes me sound like a *** but at the end of the day if a girl said she wanted to "wait" I would wait until she's ready but if she said "I want to wait until marriage" I'd back up straight away, not because I'm a *** and want sex asap but because settling down is a huge step and is one of the scariest things anyone could do in life (imo).Quote:
Originally Posted by :.:kaytay:.:
Im guessing you're younger, or haven't had that good experiences with guys in the past. I honestly would say the opposite to what you said. I would have said I've seen a lot of girls who date boys as so they can be like the rest of their friends who have boyfriends - sort of a bragging right. There is one incredibly ditsy girl in my Global course last semester that comes to mind especially. Every time she opened her mouth it was always about boys boys boys. Relationship status hot tubs kissing, urgh. I know it doesn't apply to every situation but from what I've seen and in several current situations I can see, the girls of the relationship carry most of the weight and have the guys on a short leash. Jumping through hoops blindly quite really trying to please the girls and it's not really working out all that well!Quote:
Originally Posted by :.:kaytay:.:
Boys lie? Girls lie too, everybody lies. I think a lot of boys like to see their girlfriends as sweet and angelic and so it's really disheartening to see them lie and to have that idea of them be tarnished. I'm sure you could make a similar comparison about when your boyfriend lies, too.
What you said about a few seconds of pleasure, there are boys like that but again there are girls like that too. It's just not incredibly advertised or common. Also I don't think it's fair that you say all boys lie and just want a few minutes of sexual pleasure - not true at all. Yes most boys think about sex often, but girls think about sex too, and that doesn't mean our one and only objective is to try and have sex. A lot of us want to take things slow and make it special just like girls do. Most boys want to be in a relationship because they don't like being lonely, and because the other person genuinely makes them happy and means a lot to them. It's not sex sex sex.
All i have to say about sex before marriage is "HHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL YES", well at an appropriate age of course, which would be eighteen.
In addition to this boy's gain their sex drive fairly young (14/15) while girl's don't receive their sex drive until their early 20's.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
WHAT lmao I definately know some girls who have a very healthy sex driveQuote:
Originally Posted by PaulMacC
what the **** are you talking about, there is no limit to when you 'receive' a sex drive... I know both males and females with high and some with low. where you getting your sex ed from?Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulMacC
lmao where did you find thatQuote:
Originally Posted by PaulMacC
One of the most basic Christian beliefs is that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all one entity. Not making logical sense isn't really an issue when you're a godQuote:
Originally Posted by Shoe
And all girls hate sex and only ever do it because boys want to, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by :.:kaytay:.:
my mum already knows she read my texts ARGH
my mums aware i'm sexually active my dad would murder me though lol
Edited Jordan (Forum Moderator): Please do not double post after the 15 minute editing time without adding anything new
I don't think anybody needed to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snooki
For the most part, those who engage in sex before marriage who contract STDS/HIV or become pregnant, they bring it upon themselves.
If you see a bottomless pit, you don't jump in it unless you are absolutely sure where the bottom is - and even then you might not.
I'm a Christian so Yes I believe in celibacy - quite a few people I know believe in it, they wear an "abstinence ring" to show they won't have sex before marriage.
I'm actually of A-sexuality though, which means I am not sexually attracted to anything, man , woman , animals etc. and I never have been sexually attracted to someone. A-sexuality, is natural - you don't force yourself to refrain from sex unlike celibacy.
So I never have to worry about sex :3 ( that could change though - I'm only 15 ).
If I got in bed with someone and saw a bottomless pit I wouldn't want to jump in I must say.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
I agree with sex before marriage :)
sameQuote:
Originally Posted by RemelKiid
sex is a gift, it would be rude to not use it
I've been active since i was in my early teens, im not sure what my mother would have said if she found out, probs not much as im a guy, diffrent when your a girl i suppose.
Asexuality is very rare and seeing as you've not finished puberty at 15, it's quite likely you will eventually find some sexual desires. Plus being asexual doesn't mean you won't have sex, it simply means you've not much attraction to it. If you were in a relationship/marriage with someone who wasn't asexual, it's quite likely you'd have to engage in sex just to keep things going even if you gained little from the experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wazzervaldez
I still think being asexual would be ideal though, I don't want to sound like someone preaching "without religion everything would be peaceful", without a desire for sex I think things would be very different and probably better (although it's questionable how the human race would continue!)
i'm all for sex before marriage, sex is not the be all and end all of 'love', sex is a bodily function. it's the process of reproduction.
not sure where it came to be a symbol of 'love' but it's not really is it. i enjoy sex but generally it's not the most romantic thing in the world, it's not always the greatest thing. don't get me wrong, it can be fantastic. but i'd rather not 'use' sex as proving how i fully love someone. i'd rather give them an intelligent description or something. idk.
sex does not equal love, and love does not equal sex.
this, pretty much. sex is a part of a relationship, and to not explore that before committing yourself to someone forever is idiotic in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Publicised
however personally, i wouldn't sleep with someone who i didn't see a future with.
We are in the 21st century, of course it's normal. Whoever is preaching like a saint here needs to rewind to the previous century.
Also, you are saying sex gets your pregnant. Erm, no it doesn't, if you use protection. People who don't use it bring upon themselves, you're basically asking to be pregnant and it's no ones fault that it happens, just use your brains.
I don't believe in sex before marriage, but I do believe you should be in a serious relationship. Like someone else said, it isn't a sign of love or anything, but I think it should be between two people who are together, not just two random people who barely know each other.
To be fair, sex is supposed to happen for babies or w/eQuote:
Originally Posted by Grig
Humans have simply made things which can make it more for pleasure.
I don't believe sex should be withheld until marriage because you'd go into a marriage not knowing your likes/dislikes and your partner might not be able to make it work for the both of you, but you should save sex for people are you in a long term serious relationship with and/or love.
I'll preach like a saint because before we had the sexual revolution we had less teenage pregnancies, less abortion and less disease.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grig
Yeh, but I believe there is another problem here, educating the society about the risks of STDs, pregnancy etc. without protection. If everyone in the world used protection and knew the implications, we would go back down close to what that society that you're preaching about was.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
The more sex education we've had, it has resulted in more teenage pregnancies, more abortion and more disease.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grig
It's foolish to think that this will be solved in an hour's worth of sex education lessons per week. It's about the upbringing, you saw the state parts of society was in through the riots and similar events.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
I don't think sex should be held off till marriage, I just don't think it should.
Don't get rowdy with me, just stating my opinion about it. But at least for the people that stick it out till marriage, fair play to them!
Erm I don't think my mom cares, tbh she gave me condoms when I was 11.
But I don't think people should wait till they're married to have sex. Enjoy life, don't like trap yourself at a young age. Go out, have fun.