Not actually clued up on those threads, and I cba to read it. I am assuming you mean integration onto the forum though?
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Not actually clued up on those threads, and I cba to read it. I am assuming you mean integration onto the forum though?
cba to read it (I think this is the official Habbox staff view on most feedback) but asking me to write it all out for you...
Essentially it just requires that news/articles that go on the site be posted as threads, and then the main text - or a headline and small summary if not - be put on the main site with the clickthrough "read more/comment" type link sending people to the thread. That way more people will see the story as it'll be viewed by forum members as well as the 5 people who read them on the site (who will then actually be part of the community and not just passers-by), and there is also the opportunity for proper discussion of the story which doesn't tend to happen on the site. Staff would only need to do the same as usual in terms of actual writing, it's just 5 seconds difference pasting it into a thread first before the main site article is placed with the link
Yeah, basically what I said without needing to read your posts. It is 1am, I am tired so I don't have to go reading through posts/threads i I don't want to :P
I agree, another forum does this... Are you saying that full news report should be posted on the forum? Or part news report then a read more/comment link that links to the article on the Habbox website?
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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
when i mentiond how crap some peoples events are *REMOVED* whatever in terms of number of users showing up (his events dont start till 30minutes in usually why the hell is he staff, there is obviously something he is doing wrong...
i filled up his event for him with one invite the other night and he then went on a powertrip because he has never seen so many people inside his room before.
but seriously the events are dead. my sig a while back was hx rooms vs hffm rooms and its like that always? does the events management change anything? nope the assistant manager gets a screenie on th one of chance where a habbox event has 30 people lol. maybe instead of taking screenies you could advertise could be improved help them improve!
same with rooms. people see ugly habbox rooms and thing priz is pixel furni!!!!!!!!!!!!
MY EVENTS AND ROOMS WHERE TH BEST IM SORRY BUT I REMEMBER ALWAYS GETTING 40+ in my rooms because i cared lol
Edited by e5 (Forum Moderator) - Please don't post names of people where it could cause an argument or be seen as targeting a user.
First game of current event just started at 20 past, last event was the same host and didn't once mention Habbox even when asked what rep was. Not heard him say it yet this event either, even at the start it was just "ok were starting". Complaints near enough every day and we get told that things are happening, just behind the scenes - somewhat redundant when it has no effect whatsoever on the state of affairs
Will probably get slated by every events person for saying this, but nothing is happening at all. Events is doing so poorly because most (no, not all) people are not trying hard enough. I complained massively a few weeks ago about how events need to be varied and not the same old "bingo, ff, fridge game, don't roll a 6" every bleeding day and minus one occasion where the only useful senior+ removed 3 bingo games (there were 3/4 booked to be held over the course of 6 hours.....), variation is rarely reached ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
I know you think that every EO doesn't advertise Tom, but some actually do :P Jade was hosting a lot in her events earlier, .Cymru. advertises also and I advertise to people waiting in line (not sure about other EOs but some def. not). However, I do agree a large amount of them don't advertise or remotely try and encourage people to join the forum or interact with them (no way.. talking to people and encouraging them to use Habbox services?????? :OOOO).
Won't "backstab" too much, but it doesn't help when 3 out of 4 members of senior/management barely communicate.
Is this the host that said Hffm twice before habbox the other night lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Yeah I know it's not all of the events staff who are guilty, it's just that those who don't pull their (impressively large) weight bring down the whole department, especially when they're hosting 4 games a night or whatever and using none of that time at all to do anything other than boost room visitor badges or whatever :P fire everyone, put me as community agm and I'll rehire the decent ones even if I don't like them and leave the crap ones even if I do because that's how management is supposed to workQuote:
Originally Posted by Intersocial
Yeah lmao and still hasn't said it yet tonight. Had an impressively full room earlier and made no use of it whatsoever. Seems to be afk half the time lolQuote:
Originally Posted by sex
To be honest I do think it is a lack of effort from the majority of people. If you go in and you put in the work you get results and you get people coming to events or tuning into the radio. Recently DJs have been putting more effort in and this week the radio has been up for 158 hours out of 168. They really have pushed and quality is slowing being pushed to improve as well. Its one of them things now that we have a well structured department we can make the necessary changes. We are currently sorting out weekly shows and approaching people who we feel can do them to help the community side as well as doing events/hxstarz and what ever else we can based on giveaways/win a rooms etc. Listeners have improved, by no means where I feel they should be but they have improved. It is a matter of pushing and continuously putting in hard work to get what we want.
Like Hayden said we do advertise as much as possible. But a certain amount of people don't do that unfortunately and it is really disheartening. I try to do as much as I can for events and my event from tonight shows if you go in you can get not only the numbers but a great community feel as well. I just think that people need to work on providing 1) a great community event which is entertaining/fast-paced 2) rooms that don't look like something chucked up in a bucket and ultimately 3) just a damn good event. I think more needs to come to allow for this though I genuinely do. And I'm going to keep saying this but events as well as HxL needs a better international side who are willing to work and provide a great support for this!
I was in a Habbox Live room today, think it was a giveaway and every 5 seconds a user was advertising Habbox, which was good to see.
Now in the event he's sitting afk not running the game, not speaking to anyone, and totally ignoring the fact that there's someone in the room being abusive to literally everyone present - because the person in question is his friend. He even gave a smile when it was requested that he do something about it. He's been afk for about 20 minutes now in his own event
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And then when someone told him not to be useless he warned them lol
I like the intent of the original post but it might be more productive to break the post into smaller segments with fuller explanations/more backing. It's more likely to get a full discussion that way, and this way each page of posts doesn't look like a game of Whack-a-Mole as each person tackles a different department.
Just a suggestion :)
I was going to go into more detail with each but since the only response from management I've had so far is essentially "no it's great" I don't imagine they'd do anything more for a bigger post :P I had assumed that it was just individual staff being the problem in most departments but seems like managers this generation just don't care enough to get anything doneQuote:
Originally Posted by nvrspk4
Just regarding that, I agree he needed to try have a bit more control over his event however there were 4-6 other staff members there who also could have jumped in and tried to control the situation (including a manager who was there) but instead they were just continuing to stir **** and making the whole event look like chaos. Also I thought it was rude and unprofessional that all the staff members (including the manager again) started to pick on the event host out loud in public rather than deal with the issue privately and talk to the staff member nicely.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
None of them had rights at that point, and the host's behaviour was far more embarrassing than those chiding him for it tbh. That said it doesn't seem like you're talking about the current event since the manager wasn't there...
I was, sorry I meant 'a manager' not necessarily the events manager. However I am sure being a manager that they would be able to show some sort of professionalism about the situation or at least try to have some control.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
(not really read the whole thread but OP and a few pages here and there) but I agree completely with Daltron on the thing about people staying in their little groups. I don't really spend a lot of time going to events anymore, mainly because the games are so boring that I really can't be bothered to go, but I decided earlier to step out of the desk and go play. The first event was fine, because I really wasn't paying too much attention, but I later attended a second event and I just have never felt so unwelcome. I know that I would be friendly with a lot of people in the department, but there just doesn't seem to be much of a friendly factor and trying to get to know people. In the Help Desk I know that myself and some other members of staff immediately welcome a new member into the room and just try to be generally friendly. I do understand though that the Help Desk itself isn't exactly as popular as some of the events, but I think it would be great to just try to get users more so involved than just going ''kk no how to play??/ ok go'' the end. *it's late and i'm sorry if i don't make much sense*
I 100% agree. This is one of the first times I have attended an event since I left the events department in 2011 and There was no welcome, and I wasnt even sure if there was an event running. Obviously a large part of the blame needs to be placed on the host but also I felt the other staff members who were there seemed so exclusive and elitist. I tried to talk to heaps of people and not a single person even responded or noticed me. It was not a very warm and welcoming situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Absently
i dont think theres anything wrong with comps... its probs the easiest department but there not allowed to copy ideas... there not even allowed to use an idea that is similar to one posted in the last 3 months but yeaaaa...
i agree with all the others tho (y)
get rid of wiki, wikia one is better
@e5; @FlyingJesus; not gonna lie I do agree with most of what FlyingJ has said HabboxLive really does need more in-client interaction and more forum commitment I know @Foregetfuhl; is working on this with the current DJs she has as when I left I felt in client was getting better, however it has slipped and you hardly see any of the DJs on client and doing competitions unless they are a head DJ having to do a competition every week which I feel can increase listeners not quickly but gradually!
E5: you don't seem to be able to take the feedback as you get defensive over a few things that have been said about other depts. you are a moderator therefore should be setting an example to the other forum members not throwing a tantrum or arguing to someone because of a little feedback that has been sent! At the end of the day it is feedback and anyone is allowed to express what they feel needs to be improve on, it can't always be a failure of a dept. someone needs to realize not everything will come of just say "oh yeah it's alright guys quality hasn't been great this month lets get it better for the next" what encouragement does that show from a manager of a dept linked with a fansite that is the oldest and largest running fansite and all you can say to your staff for targets is to improve for next month with no real issues why and no bullet pointed reasons as to why it failed last month and what the staff should be doing to improve it! The wiki page if FlyingJ wanted to update the pages the he would apply for that job wouldn't he? That's up to the content staff to do and I've seen from a few of the pages they aren't all great but they get a little info.
Ngl, I think this was a 100% accurate thread and should seriously be taken in to consideration. I know on the events forum there's been some serious speaking of quality etc just from standard staff how does that look on the managers? Does that mean they aren't doing their job properly? Not saying Alex Martin aren't but how does that look on the dept? And reflect on Habbox and the community?!
It amazes me that events has always been an issue, when out of all the departments, events probably has the easiest job of them all...
It's not just the community problem for events, it's also admin behind the scenes and how staff express themselves on the forum, we all noticed that the other week when a spam thread was made about one staff, and that didn't end well, it's likewise with ex staff too that didn't have the correct attitude on all platforms of Client and forum. Admin has picked up a little, but CNBs are still being posted too early in some cases and I am sick to death of the usual events. I like a few of them, but they're near enough all hosted too late at night.
Also, looking at the calendar how can you allow two of the same events together unless they're hosting together? Nice idea that you got older hosts back, but there's only 2 and although they were amazing in the department I would have also liked to see more effort and got a few older ones back - although you're going back in time for events yet Wired was introduced in 2010 so isn't that old enough. Although it's a good idea generally I think it could have been pushed more.
HabboxLive, I tuned out of last night as the DJ sounded like she was echoing all night, although it's not usually a regular occurrence, but out of those 158 hours how many were streaming? I don't mind, but I know you'll be stopping streaming during peak times. Also, if an international DJ was on air say 3am BST yet it was evening for them, would they be required to talk as it ay be peak for them? I like how the DJ is actually talking at the moment though to say many listeners will be getting ready for school/work etc.
Competitions @paramore; that's far from correct, I've noticed so many similar competitions and I even informed Ryan how there were 3 similar competitions in the space of 3 months, 2 of which were written by him and although it's changed a lot now, it's still happening although that can be sorted probably.
News I am finding is becoming more of a chore as the motivation isn't there as various factors behind the scenes occur that I never agree with, there is no commanding role in the department and I could probably get away with writing random sentences in my reports if I was still Head News Reporter as they don't get checked enough as I know Intersocial has errors in his reports, but of course no one checks them. I know we have a lack of staff at the moment, but a manager should be able to control 3/4 members of staff. I know a few of us do it, I have approximately 16 other staff in my department, with the help of Head Rare Values Reporters and Head Rare Values Furni Editors, not only that, but Rosy, Jade, Alex they all managed for ages and I believe assistants can also improve the department. Although News is an ok department it doesn't scream wow to me as it's generic and we're not usually the fastest one to report something. This isn't a dig, just my opinion as I am in the department so I do care and know.
Content, Wikia is not the best, they steal Habbox Rare Values. Content just needs motivation within it and it would improve my workload.
I've waffled on, oh well :P.
Just for the record, the Rare Values department are in no way responsible for the issues complained about in this thread. Its mostly come about from HotelUser rushing the V6 panel and making stupid decisions like deciding the release date and release value should be the date of the first value in the system and the first value in the system for the rare respectfully. One of the main reasons why V7 is taking so long is because I'm doing my best not to make some inflexible mistake that wastes everyone's time.
To be quite brutally honest it's mismanaged. It doesn't matter if you get the point or not, many do, last time I checked the bandwidth graphs they've been growing month on month pretty consistently.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
I'm going to reply to this thread properly tonight after work, however I just wanted to clear up a few things. Encouraging people to advertise is something we are currently working on. I cannot stress enough how many times we've mentioned this, but I think its one of those problems that has been around for a while and people have got into bad habits. Back when I first joined events in 2009 I remember we used to do this thing in an event where a 'screenshot' was taken and everyone in the room would shout out "habbox.com" "habboxforum.com" "habboxlive.com" etc. There used to be little updates posted on how an event went, and overall I think the community feel was just stronger. These days its an even harder job, in terms of a less interest in fansites in general and declining numbers across the board. Unfortunately solutions cannot be put into place overnight, but most of these problems are affecting multiple departments, and moreso the community in general as these days there just feels to be less of a community feel, and moreso groups. I think in some aspects skype is to blame for this, and it sounds totally weird but back then we didn't rely on all that so much, we bonded on the forum, we got involved with the community and we bonded on Habbo whilst in events/the helpdesk etc, but these days people just skype each other. :P
Last night was a prime example of how it can work, and how an event that late at night can attract a really good amount of visitors, and I've heard lots of advertising occurred during that event which is good. I just hope once we do get the members that they stick around. :P
Whilst I totally agree with you about the points you've raised, I think its fair to say that its a team effort all round. We have the majority of what we do with general management, and regularly talk to them about department updates and things concerning the department. Things are often mentioned to events staff, but does it get to the point where we need to remove people who don't advertise, don't interact enough etc? The prizes issue is a tricky one, as I don't see us growing a money tree anytime soon, and with quite a lot of members in the department it would be hard to fund prizes for them for so many events (Looking back at 2009 etc the amount of events isnt actually that different), however we currently have a system in place in which events organisers can 'earn' prizes such as credits and furniture by doing the things they should be doing within the department. This should help them fund better prizes and you should see that in action soon.
Basically, our site is stale and I guess if we had that shiny new site we were promised people would be proud and advertise it like the clappers, we need things that are unique and we need the idealogy that Habbox is a massive community full of lovely people, lots of things to win and general management and managers that get stuck in, get hosting events, hosting giveaways, making themselves prominent and leading by example. Improving staff morale comes to the forefront of this, and if there is no teamwork at the top, then it really reflects badly down the chain I feel.
I don't think any of us would say 'Its great' so im not sure who replied to you with that. Its clear there are a lot of problems at the moment, but a lot of these have cropped up in the past too. I think one of the main issues is that the whole feel of Habbox isn't really what it used to be, there is no motivation, there is no forward thinking and the majority of the staff spend their days complaining and arguing instead of setting an example and this itself kills the atmosphere, and just puts a negative light on things which could easily be turned into positive with a little constructive feedback (as you've done in this thread). I'm not sure if you read this, but just over a week ago I did promise that we would work on the whole advertising/interaction thing, and we are currently discussing it and we will be talking to Mike about it and seeing what he thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
I really wouldn't say that :P I think the people working on V7 have the easiest job of them all :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
*person and it's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolt660
You obviously didn't read all my posts did you? I haven't gone defensive about what people say over other departments. I told FJ himself that I don't disagree I just wish he made more suggestions which is what we've argued about for the last 7 pages. What tantrum and I throwing? I'll say again: You obviously didn't read all my posts, did you? What does frustrate me is when I see replies like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesSparky
Wiki: There is nothing wrong the the wiki, in a non-bias, non-defensive way. It's a very help site and the pages are well written. Maybe not all, but the majority are.
News: I agree with the integration to the forum; putting a short story in a thread on the forum and then linking to the full story on the site, this gets people reading news, as long as the short story is well written.
Moderation: I even opened up to the fact that I may have been one of the moderators he was criticising and I am more than happy to take any criticism if it comes my way. I also said things that the forum department was doing in terms of little events. If anyone thinks of other stuff that can be done - suggest it.
Events: An event last night was a prime example of a staff member not caring about their event, but that doesn't mean to say ALL event staff are like this. This was just a particularly bad one, and i'm sure it will be dealt with. A talk to all events staff, to advertise Habbox and to interact with players more should be drilled into them.
The other departments I haven't really paid much attention to so I don't have much to say on them. I was just asking that some ideas come with the critisism and FJ gave some in later posts, so I wasn't complaining and even said I was purposely being obtuse to spark replies and get reactions as to how members really feel, and it worked.
adios.
Okay I was going to stay out of this for multiple reasons but I just have to say that removing graphics is pretty much a non-option... and I think anyone who thinks it *is* an option might be a little bit mental. I've noticed that recently (last few months), graphics produced by the department are not always at 100% (no idea who made them though!) and may not look super professional gorgeous everyone loves them but in all honesty it's probably better than what most department managers can manage. On top of that it's stupid things, like badges, donator bars, buttons, stupid things which are easy for other people to do but would just take up time, so we take that off their mind.
If I'm missing something here, do enlighten me.
With Habboxlive, I think that there should be some kind of mandatory server trial before they go onto the main server. When I tune in to DJ's and hear there mics crashing and buffering and lack of SAM skills and awful music (it happens), it makes me tune out. With the reform the whole department is having at the moment to trying and improve community moral and departmental activity, as well as implementing more measures to help the DJ's out and give the listeners something to listen to, rather than just a stream of music.
Streaming is good and bad. It keeps the radio online during non-peak hours, but people just stream for minimums. Which is annoying to say the least. I think there needs to be rules on streaming:
- No streaming a pre-booked slot
- No streaming during UK Peak Times, unless no-one can cover and cover has been checked properly (skype, forum, etc)
- Streaming only counts for 0.5 of a slot, etc.
The HxL community in general is going through a huge department overhaul to help boost it back, this won't happen overnight and theres a small chance it will make no difference, but we are trying. Its coming up to our busy time of year and we have actually come prepared for it!
The Wikipedia pages are well written in that the basics are there and we also have to remember that not everybody (even Content staff) will have the best of English skills that are expected on say the real world Wikipedia. As long as the basics are down on the Wiki, hopefully over time it will be improved and added on to - sometimes i'll browse and edit bits, or do entire new pages such as HHGS or the RV series I was writing and which i'll continue with over the next few months whenever I feel motivated by it.
I'd like to see the Wiki become more of a community thing and take some of the burden off the Content department - I suggested to Chris & Matt the other week that for example, department pages on the Wiki should become the responsibility of each department rather than having Sam and other having to trawl through the Announcements for every department. It makes sense - each department will be more motivated editing their own Wiki and keeping it up to date than a stranger will.
What else would I suggest? well, maybe Award badges and chunks of reputation should start being handed out for someone who completes a reasonable Wikipedia page. Open something like that up to the forum - 100 rep points & an Award page for each page completed. Whether people will take the challenge who knows, but at least there's an incentive to involve non-staff and get more pages finished/up.
With over 3500 items it's going to take a while to get tags on every item. But actually, the furni editors are all making great progress atm with doing so. Back in May I set up a thread to basically list what needs doing for each category, as before that you'd have to go looking for items with no tags :P. So hopefully it won't be too long before every category has tags. At the moment, I just counted 171 of 181 categories having tags :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
I added them :L, but because it's nice to have the items there as soon as Habbo upload them because they could be released at any time, and with the images etc already done they only have to be moved to the right category and maybe have their tags updated :P.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
To be honest, the whole international side of Habbox is a joke and is not taken seriously, apart starting to at HabboxLive in recent weeks, where we were seeing an increase in international DJs and listeners. The rest is all backwards and no one even cares to fix it.
To prove my point, let's go back to 208 or 9 when Bomb-Head was Events Manager. You had a rank called International Events Organizer and there were applications exclusively for internationals, much like there are on HabboxLive. Now, nothing? International events are a joke and no one even attempts to make it better. I was DJing earlier on today at 2 am UK time, was at an event and barely anyone was there. Apart from a few regulars and staff who were mostly either in the host or VIP areas.
Forum has an international presence now with at least an international mod, which is great, but would be good if not everything occurs during prime time. Would be great that the forum did not die overnight UK time and there was stuff happening.
Personally, all community departments, particularly events and competitions should work together to push each other during international times, because I remember in the past, I think this was around 2 years ago, HabboxLive had a large number of international staff. Yet, the other departments did not bother to help out in international times at all and would just take benefit from one department at least trying.
I can go on about other issues, but find this one to be a problem at Habbox, where things are even going backwards, not forwards with ints.
You mentioning it lots of times is kinda the point. This has been an issue since at least as long as the news non-update issue (probably longer since the post does refer to earlier suggestions) and it's still a huge problem even with the same culprits as back then, so clearly it's not actually being worked on just looked at and walked pastQuote:
Originally Posted by Bolt660
It was msn before skype and that's been the case ever since I can remember, so can't really blame lack of forum interaction on other mediums. If it is as you say a harder job now then it's even more reason to be stricter on how it's does rather than allowing your staff to continue day after day to not only be completely unwilling to do anything remotely helpful for the community but not even host the event properly. There's no community feeling because no-one is propagating oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Bolt660
Last night was a prime example of how it can work, and how an event that late at night can attract a really good amount of visitors, and I've heard lots of advertising occurred during that event which is good. I just hope once we do get the members that they stick around. :P
Yes of course it does, and has! As I've said before I like your enthusiasm but if you're not willing to actually solve the problems that the department face instead of throwing coins in a wishing well and hoping it all gets better then I'm not really sure why you're in managementQuote:
Originally Posted by Bolt660
I did see it, and I saw it 3 months ago when the same thing was said tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Bolt660
Mostly the fact that it's not a constant workload so there's no real way of evaluating staff performance properly. Also there are plenty of people around the forum who do graphics on request without being staff - I did a HxHD advertisement sig for a staff member recently because there were no graphic staff on at the time and it didn't seem worth waiting for the request to be processed, allocated, submitted, checked, and then released when the person requesting it knew I could get it over and done with in 10 minutes. It's a department that needs at most 1 member of staff to manage requests in a proper request forum or something, and the rest can involve *+*DUN DUN DUN*+* the communityQuote:
Originally Posted by laura
Things like that would definitely promote the wiki (and its evolution) without the unnecessary burden of checking staff and having fixed roles for people who may just want to get involved every now and then rather than be held down to it. The same goes for other things like graphics as above, RV where it already is somewhat in place since the best "freelancers" as I suppose they are get rewarded with staff placements when they become available, and news which could be done very easily if the proposed update to the department was actually put in place - it all boils down to getting the community involved and not carrying on with this segregation of staff and members that's been essentially mandated for the past few years nowQuote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
i think sack every moderator in help desk apart from cerys and sack all forum moderators
this thread is exhausting some1 close it fast
If there were no moderators who would close it?
Guess we are lucky FJ is vip and can close his own I guess :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by subo
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Originally Posted by Bolt660
That's a good one :P
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I'll let you off on the tags, the one category I decided to visit didn't have them, so my bad :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr-Trainor
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Regarding the Wiki, it's not so much the English that bothers me, I'm aware that this is a site for teenagers, not Wikipedia Admins :P And I'm aware there will be mistakes that will be corrected (hopefully) as time goes on... Seplling mistakes do bother me, as you would assume people would have spell-checked their work, but once again, it's a minor thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
The one thing that bothers me most about the Wiki, is that it's got too much opinion in on it. A wiki should be full of facts, I don't need a story telling to me, e.g:
Of course, this is just my opinion. The content team might like it that way :P I just find that sort of stuff annoying, there's not much of it, but I do notice it.Quote:
The Competitions Manager at the time, Inseriousity., was against this strongly and argued against it saying that it was "pointless".
Also, I could be totally wrong here, but on pages where you say 'And the rare value price is XXX', I'm guessing this doesn't update automatically? (Since some of the prices are off) Why do you have out-of-date rare values on the wiki? I'm sure you could have a price that updates daily automatically, or you could simply link to Habbox Rare Values... Correct me if I'm wrong though :)
well lets just say im planning to overthrow chris and become head moder8r
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Also, I did say a while back, that the cause for most of these issues was having seperate departments essentially competing over the same thing. Clearly, merging is out of the question, but getting teams to work together more would help a lot.
I said a while back that Events/HxL need to work together more, and News/Content/Graphics do as well. I'm not sure what happened to the 'Guides' staff, but as people saw from the massive thread that was created on it, News and Content wanted it for themselves and didn't fancy working together (Even though content is pretty much a subset of News right now?).
[Inb4 people tell me 'WELL ITZ A GOOD FING U R NOT IN CHARGE!!11SHIFT]
If I was in charge, I would restructure everything, something like this:
Client Department (Events/HxL/HxHD)
Forum Department (Comps/Moderation/Debates)
Site Department (News/Content/Graphics/Guides/Rare Values)
It would make there be less managers, more staff would work with other staff. There would be no quotas, and no limits either. So if somebody wants to do X competitions a week, let them. Let it be a lot more fluid. Don't need quotas, simply give warnings to people that aren't putting in enough effort. Some people are bound to do more than others. And this doesn't mean, 'All events staff have to become DJs, all Graphics staff have to do Rare Values', but staff can easily do work for similiar departments then need be, rather than 4/5/6+ managers having to keep an eye on the same staff member.
Three managers, each with an assistant, so only 6 management positions. All report to the Community Manager, who reports to the General Manager. So essentially just 8 management positions, plus Jin and Sierk.
But if Inseriousity was against (the subject matter) then that should surely be documented. For example, most would agree on here that the majority disapproved at the time with the way ---MAD--- was running the forum - that should be documented. The page shouldn't be a slur of his time as General Manager, certainly not, but it should take into account events and feelings at the time - otherwise we might aswell just have pages full of dates and nothing more.Quote:
Regarding the Wiki, it's not so much the English that bothers me, I'm aware that this is a site for teenagers, not Wikipedia Admins :P And I'm aware there will be mistakes that will be corrected (hopefully) as time goes on... Seplling mistakes do bother me, as you would assume people would have spell-checked their work, but once again, it's a minor thing.
The one thing that bothers me most about the Wiki, is that it's got too much opinion in on it. A wiki should be full of facts, I don't need a story telling to me, e.g:
The truth is, many events are best taught as stories - I find pages detailing an entire event as a commentary much more interesting than some of the other pages where it's just something like below...
Much better to have information and a flow in the pages than vague (and boring) lines of information and dull facts.Quote:
-:Undertaker:- worked as a RV Reporter.
He then joined Content and left two months later.
He had a trade room.
List of Jobs Held
RV Reporter x to x
RVM x to x
Content x to x
If an event is being discussed on the Wiki and it's related to say Inseriosity then I want to know what Inseriousity made of it at the time as it might be key in gaging an understand of what happened at the time and how it was viewed - much like the real Wikipedia articles.
Is this referring to my series on rare values? completely wrong if so. The pages I created are a history of rare values - not the actual rare values. The reason why i've listed many rares at the prices they attained at the time is to provide evidence for the claims I make when I say for example that there was a 'summer rise' or a '2008 boom' - I list the values of some rares back then to show what happened with the rare values market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
The clue is in the name, History of the British Rare Values Market. :P
Fair enough in regards to the first part of the post, just my personal preference :PQuote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Secondly, it's got nothing to do with your History articles, they're great :) It's more the wiki pages for individual rares :)
E.g: http://habboxwiki.com/Silver_Dragon_Lamp