Look at how many votes @Cassiieee; got when she asked people to vote for her compared to when she didn't get asked for votes.
@Cassiieee;'s punishment changing from 75% to 50% made no difference.
@Liva; won every single vote she was in
@Phil; How did evictions work in the case of a tie? I'm presuming you counted back through past evictions (The only reason I see @buttons; being evicted over @Ms.Aquamarine;) - but what would have happened if that wasn't possible? (For example, if I got one more vote in the eviction where I was evicted).
01-04-2014, 08:36 PM
scottish
Right on the 6th screenshot you have both Ms.Aquamarine and buttons on 5 votes
how did you pick who got evicted and who stayed?
01-04-2014, 08:39 PM
Samantha
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Originally Posted by scottish
Right on the 6th screenshot you have both Ms.Aquamarine and buttons on 5 votes
how did you pick who got evicted and who stayed?
I believe that was the day the voting messed up so the others before counted.
01-04-2014, 08:42 PM
scottish
fixed
01-04-2014, 08:44 PM
Liva
@kardan; I what?
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01-04-2014, 08:48 PM
Phil
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Originally Posted by Kardan
Yes, you did tell us that Laura's username was in the anagram - not denying that. What we didn't know was the other error that the other team knew about. Laura's 9 letter username actually went in the 10 letter word slot - which the other team knew about. We never knew about this, so we were like 'Well, Laura's 9 letter username has to go in the only 9 letter word slot at the end - which was actually assistant).
Just so you don't think I was being more help to the other team I want to address this again. The received the same information you got. I didn't tell them about where it was, there was an error with the amount of letters or anything like that. I just told them that 'lawrawrrr' was indeed in the anagram.
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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.
Well how much exactly did Elliott and Nick get involved? By sounds of things, Phil was practically juggling Ant, Dec and Keith singlehandedly 99% of the time (we know that they must've used it a little if someone accidently voted on Dec). Perhaps pride meant Phil didn't reach out for help or maybe he did, I won't be able to answer that, but either way if it was apparent to everyone outside of the event that someone needed to jump in and provide a bit of assistance - even if it was something simple like chatting with the contestants more - then it could've been recognised by yourself too.
I know that you have a lot of forums so these things can get missed though so I understand the mentions point but a closer eye on things in future should aid the planning process.
I was juggling quite a bit at the start tbh but then you probably noticed that Ant was doing a whole eviction or Dec was doing a whole eviction. This was because in the second week of the competition my computer was giving me hassle and would have been way too slow switching over and back.
The reason for not asking for a lot of help wasn't down to pride. When was the last time the Forum did anything by themselves besides the Easter egg hunts and its variations? I really thought the department should have been able to handle this. It was preparation of tasks that let us down. I didn't want to call out to other departments because I didn't want people to think "Oh this is a Competitions Event, Phil is just providing the Forum". I called out to AGM's and the mods and I thought that should have been enough.
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Originally Posted by Kyle
oh and i'd love to know your reasoning behind putting each member in the jungle. can we collectively interview kiosk keith?
Taken directly from the thread.
I've done up to #40
Kardan - He's normally the host and I think it will be interesting seeing him in the other side of the fence and lets be honest, he'll probably be the brains of the group.
Cornbix - From all the 'trolls' of Habbox, I think he has the best app and I think he'll cause a bit of commotion and will be fun.
Inseriousity. - I think he'll be good, he was quite good in The Mole and you all seem to like Ms. Aquamarine (and I do too!) and I think it would be entertaining to have a couple in there. Especially if we can pin them against one another.
Ms. Aquamarine - For the above reasons & she's literally the nicest person in the world I can totally see her being the mammy of the group.
Liva - Like others have said, she's new and I think it'd be good to have at least one person who isn't well known just to see how they get on and if we can get them out of their shell a bit.
Cassiieee - Do I even need to say? What a drama queen! It'd literally be so much fun to see the havoc and see how much annoyance she can cause.
bolt660 - I think he'll be really funny in it and I think he'll get really mad at someone during the competition (dunno why). I'd really like to have him in the group.
buttons - Like Rosy, I think she'll adopt a mother like figure. She's an unbelievably nice person but at the same time can be snappy and cause some commotion. The trolls would annoy her so much.
Immorality - Formally known as Emily! Anyone who has ever had to PM hre over an edit on the forum will know how angry she gets. She has one of the worst attitudes I have ever seen and ngl we'll have to probably kick her out so that will be a lot of fun LMAO!
Kyle - He created that big feedback thread earlier this month and I'd like him to be a part of it because no doubt he'll have something to say. He's very controversial and he mentioned he would hate to be i nthe jungle with like three other people on my list.
01-04-2014, 08:50 PM
Inseriousity.
Well I was only referring to agms and mods so if you did send an SOS it's a shame they didn't respond.
01-04-2014, 08:53 PM
Kardan
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Originally Posted by Liva
@kardan; I what?
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In the evictions, everytime you were up for eviction, you got the most votes.
01-04-2014, 08:53 PM
Phil
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Originally Posted by Kardan
Nice to see the numbers.
@Phil; How did evictions work in the case of a tie? I'm presuming you counted back through past evictions (The only reason I see @buttons; being evicted over @Ms.Aquamarine;) - but what would have happened if that wasn't possible? (For example, if I got one more vote in the eviction where I was evicted).
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Originally Posted by scottish
Right on the 6th screenshot you have both Ms.Aquamarine and buttons on 5 votes
how did you pick who got evicted and who stayed?
That was they day I messed up the voting and aside from that, Jen voted for herself when Rosy didn't so it wouldn't have been fair to evict them both.
01-04-2014, 08:57 PM
scottish
It would have as it's a vote, regardless if they vote for them self or not, it's a vote and it counts lol...
01-04-2014, 08:58 PM
wixard
were you allowed vote yourself?
01-04-2014, 08:59 PM
GoldenMerc
Phil im not in your list :/
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01-04-2014, 09:00 PM
Kardan
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Originally Posted by wixard
were you allowed vote yourself?
Yes.
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Originally Posted by Phil
That was they day I messed up the voting and aside from that, Jen voted for herself when Rosy didn't so it wouldn't have been fair to evict them both.
Right, another thing to add to feedback:
Don't assume votes - only evict those that come last in polls, not dead last.
@buttons; you got skemmed out of another day without the forums :P
01-04-2014, 09:05 PM
Phil
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Originally Posted by scottish
It would have as it's a vote, regardless if they vote for them self or not, it's a vote and it counts lol...
What I'm saying is, when I combined them both, Jen lost but if we were to just go by the second poll (which isn't what we did) it would have been a tie and tbh I would evicted Jen considering she had voted herself and Rosy didn't
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Originally Posted by Kardan
Yes.
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Right, another thing to add to feedback:
Don't assume votes - only evict those that come last in polls, not dead last.
@buttons; you got skemmed out of another day without the forums :P
Don't assume votes? :S
01-04-2014, 09:06 PM
Kardan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
What I'm saying is, when I combined them both, Jen lost but if we were to just go by the second poll (which isn't what we did) it would have been a tie and tbh I would evicted Jen considering she had voted herself and Rosy didn't
Don't assume votes? :S
You're saying Aqua would have beaten Jen if she had voted for herself.
But she didn't vote for herself.
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And why didn't you include the first poll in that thread then? Seems strange to miss one out :P
I must say, the voting numbers seemed very up and down throughout the whole competition really.
01-04-2014, 09:07 PM
GoldenMerc
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Originally Posted by Kardan
You're saying Aqua would have beaten Jen if she had voted for herself.
But she didn't vote for herself.
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And why didn't you include the first poll in that thread then? Seems strange to miss one out :P
I must say, the voting numbers seemed very up and down throughout the whole competition really.
Catch 22
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01-04-2014, 09:08 PM
scottish
Yeah we already established days ago you were stupid to take both poll results into consideration rather than the actual final poll as you screwed it up initially, so I'm aware she would have been out from your initial poor judgment
What I'm speaking about now is your second poor judgment saying you'd ignore a vote because one of the people voted them self, which was in no way against the rules and should have no influence over who would have been evicted. If Ms.Aqua didn't vote herself then that's her choice for not doing so and voting another, or not being active enough or whatever other reason she didn't vote herself. If you didn't want people voting for them self then you should have indicated that in the rules, not just randomly pull it out and use it in an eviction poll tbh.
01-04-2014, 09:09 PM
Phil
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Originally Posted by Kardan
You're saying Aqua would have beaten Jen if she had voted for herself.
But she didn't vote for herself.
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And why didn't you include the first poll in that thread then? Seems strange to miss one out :P
I must say, the voting numbers seemed very up and down throughout the whole competition really.
Yeah, she would have beaten Jen if she had voted for herself? Jen got 4 votes from the public and Rosy got 5. Jen voted for herself so it was 5-5. I'm confused and I think I'm missing your point :P
Because a lot of people voted in both polls and it'll be confusing to go through the numbers and stuff. Really not much of a difference was made
01-04-2014, 09:10 PM
wixard
yeah but the point is rosy didn't take the initiative to vote for herself so it's her own loss? they both should have gone out because it was a tie
01-04-2014, 09:11 PM
scottish
His point is you're assuming a vote.
Ms.Aqua didn't vote herself or voted someone else, that's her choice
You'd be wrong to evict Jen based on that.
01-04-2014, 09:11 PM
Phil
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Originally Posted by scottish
Yeah we already established days ago you were stupid to take both poll results into consideration rather than the actual final poll as you screwed it up initially, so I'm aware she would have been out from your initial poor judgment
What I'm speaking about now is your second poor judgment saying you'd ignore a vote because one of the people voted them self, which was in no way against the rules and should have no influence over who would have been evicted. If Ms.Aqua didn't vote herself then that's her choice for not doing so and voting another, or not being active enough or whatever other reason she didn't vote herself. If you didn't want people voting for them self then you should have indicated that in the rules, not just randomly pull it out and use it in an eviction poll tbh.
No, we established it was your opinion I was stupid actually. Why are you so angry? lol
So you think that it would be fairer to knock them both out when one clearly got less public votes?
01-04-2014, 09:12 PM
Kardan
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Originally Posted by Phil
Yeah, she would have beaten Jen if she had voted for herself? Jen got 4 votes from the public and Rosy got 5. Jen voted for herself so it was 5-5. I'm confused and I think I'm missing your point :P
Because a lot of people voted in both polls and it'll be confusing to go through the numbers and stuff. Really not much of a difference was made
But you've already checked through the polls and accounted for double voting, that's what you said you would do in your poll at least (and that was why I didn't vote for Liva again in the 2nd poll) - so you should already have that information?
And what me and @scottish; are saying - is that the poll result was 5-5. It was a tie. Rosy didn't vote for anyone, that's it. She didn't vote for herself, so the score wasn't 6-5. The only reason Jen should have been evicted is the result from both polls and nothing to do with Rosy not voting for herself.
I'm feeling dodgy about this poll I must say, and I reckon you should reveal who voted who for this eviction, if only for buttons and Rosy, so we can check that the double voting didn't make a difference.
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Originally Posted by Phil
No, we established it was your opinion I was stupid actually. Why are you so angry? lol
So you think that it would be fairer to knock them both out when one clearly got less public votes?
Looks equal to me.
01-04-2014, 09:13 PM
scottish
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
No, we established it was your opinion I was stupid actually. Why are you so angry? lol
So you think that it would be fairer to knock them both out when one clearly got less public votes?
I'm not angry lol
And yes, or have some tie breaker to decide which one goes if you didn't want to get rid of both of them.
01-04-2014, 09:20 PM
Phil
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
But you've already checked through the polls and accounted for double voting, that's what you said you would do in your poll at least (and that was why I didn't vote for Liva again in the 2nd poll) - so you should already have that information?
I have it on a piece of paper somewhere, I didn't save the information, just put it straight into that eviction thread
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Originally Posted by Kardan
And what me and @scottish; are saying - is that the poll result was 5-5. It was a tie. Rosy didn't vote for anyone, that's it. She didn't vote for herself, so the score wasn't 6-5. The only reason Jen should have been evicted is the result from both polls and nothing to do with Rosy not voting for herself.
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Originally Posted by scottish
I'm not angry lol
And yes, or have some tie breaker to decide which one goes if you didn't want to get rid of both of them.
We're arguing over a 'what if' here so it doesn't really matter :P Scott, if it happened that Jen was the one who got like 7 votes in the first poll and then 3/4 in the second one and we disregarded the first poll and Jen get evicted, you'd think it's unfair then. Just for clarification if it ever did end in a tie break I did have a breaker prepared :P
01-04-2014, 09:23 PM
Kardan
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Originally Posted by Phil
I have it on a piece of paper somewhere, I didn't save the information, just put it straight into that eviction thread
We're arguing over a 'what if' here so it doesn't really matter :P Scott, if it happened that Jen was the one who got like 7 votes in the first poll and then 3/4 in the second one and we disregarded the first poll and Jen get evicted, you'd think it's unfair then. Just for clarification if it ever did end in a tie break I did have a breaker prepared :P
What was the tie breaker?
And can we see the results for the first poll?
01-04-2014, 09:25 PM
scottish
No I wouldn't, you screwed up the first vote and the second poll results should have stuck, whether it was Jen or not.
Then why not say there's a tie breaker and not say you'd change the poll results to 5-4 to Ms.Aqua
01-04-2014, 09:26 PM
Phil
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
What was the tie breaker?
And can we see the results for the first poll?
Basically a memory game from things that happened/was said in each camp and whoever got the most right would have won.
Sure one sec
01-04-2014, 09:27 PM
Kardan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Basically a memory game from things that happened/was said in each camp and whoever got the most right would have won.
Sure one sec
Oh, I was expecting another vote with just the two of them.
01-04-2014, 09:28 PM
The Don
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Yeah, she would have beaten Jen if she had voted for herself? Jen got 4 votes from the public and Rosy got 5. Jen voted for herself so it was 5-5. I'm confused and I think I'm missing your point :P
Because a lot of people voted in both polls and it'll be confusing to go through the numbers and stuff. Really not much of a difference was made
It's rosy's fault for not voting for herself, you basically cheated by taking away one of the votes for jen.
edit: oh wait, so the votes from that poll didn't even matter? why are we complaining then?
01-04-2014, 09:30 PM
Phil
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
What was the tie breaker?
And can we see the results for the first poll?
And how many votes got removed because of double voting and for who?
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Originally Posted by The Don
It's rosy's fault for not voting for herself, you basically cheated by taking away one of the votes for jen.
edit: oh wait, so the votes from that poll didn't even matter? why are we complaining then?
Cause Phil would have assumed votes if it was indeed a tie, which he shouldn't do :P
01-04-2014, 09:37 PM
Phil
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Don
It's rosy's fault for not voting for herself, you basically cheated by taking away one of the votes for jen.
edit: oh wait, so the votes from that poll didn't even matter? why are we complaining then?
They REALLY like Feedback
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Originally Posted by Kardan
And how many votes got removed because of double voting and for who?
Two from Martin and two from Liva
01-04-2014, 09:37 PM
Inseriousity.
I'm the 1 vote for ms.aquamarine and I didn't vote again cos we were told it was going to be counted so I'm not sure why phil's argument is about who voted for themself unless he added them manually in the new poll.
01-04-2014, 09:39 PM
Phil
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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.
I'm the 1 vote for ms.aquamarine and I didn't vote again cos we were told it was going to be counted so I'm not sure why phil's argument is about who voted for themself unless he added them manually in the new poll.
That argument is "What if you didn't inc. the first poll" which I did so I'm not really sure why it's happening lol
01-04-2014, 09:40 PM
scottish
It only came about because you said a vote wouldn't count because it was for them self, so everyone pointed out how stupid that was.
01-04-2014, 09:40 PM
Kyle
The vote was public so when people see 1 option rising above all the rest they are more inclined to vote for that one despite their own beliefs. 1 person actually changed their choice during the second vote, which kinda proves it!
just cos someone doesn't vote themselves (shouldnt have been allowed to vote at all as a contestant anyway) does not mean that they should stay in competition over someone that did. buttons took the initiative, ms aqua didnt.
also loving the fact that the entirety of my previous post has been completely disregarded!!! cos im right!!
01-04-2014, 09:46 PM
Phil
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Originally Posted by Kyle
also loving the fact that the entirety of my previous post has been completely disregarded!!! cos im right!!
Well I said at the beginning of the thread I won't clarify if everyone posts the same thing because I'm just repeating myself. Most of your post was stuff to take on board rather than just reply to. Want parts do you want clarified and I'll gladly reply?
01-04-2014, 09:49 PM
Kyle
nothing just want u to acknowledge it
01-04-2014, 09:50 PM
Kardan
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Originally Posted by Phil
They REALLY like Feedback
Two from Martin and two from Liva
I can tell you right now that that is wrong. I voted for Liva in the first poll, and didn't vote for her in the second. So you saying you removed both of Liva's 2 votes from the first poll because of double voting is a complete and utter lie?
01-04-2014, 09:52 PM
Phil
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
I can tell you right now that that is wrong. I voted for Liva in the first poll, and didn't vote for her in the second. So you saying you removed both of Liva's 2 votes from the first poll because of double voting is a complete and utter lie?
No actually someone voted for Martin in the first and Liva in the second.
