HxHD Trial

Having official policies for everything is dumb, I don't really understand everyone's obsession with making rules for every tiny thing. Managers hire/fire/let people return based on the needs of their department, at their own discretion and they should be trusted to get on with that. I don't think there needs to be much of a policy about returning staff (apart from the waiting period so people don't take the piss).

Look at it from Sam's point of view. He's a new manager that has perhaps never experienced working with you before, and you come back asking to be put into one of the most trust worthy roles at Habbox with full rights. Quite rightly, he isn't about to take any risks in allowing you to have full rights in the room when has no knowledge of the way you're going to behave in the room or how your attitude towards users will be. As has happened in the past, trialists have had stinking attitudes and they have been dismissed due to it. The trial is simply a precaution and a method used for you to prove yourself to the new manager. Any manager has the right to do this and I strongly encourage they do so in roles such as this.

Ultimately you have the option to either get on with the trial or leave it here.

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Originally Posted by Mr-Trainor

I think it's completely up to the manager and I'm sure they have a good reason for choosing to put you on trial. When I was Rare Values Manager a few years ago - note, back when the department had a lot more interest - I put a policy in place which meant that if you resigned, you'd have to come back on trial no matter what your role was (management may have been an exception) and the main reason was that very often we'd have a number of people leaving only to want to return a short while later. I won't name them but there used to be a person who'd return every time a senior position became available and then leave when it was filled by someone else, @-Danube-; will know :P.. if he ever comes online :(.

As for a Habbox wide policy, I don't think there should be one tbh. With a department like Rare Values which is struggling for staff I think they should be allowed to return in full staff positions, but not if big changes have been made to the department since they were last there. For example someone who was around when RV was reporting in threads wanting to return now. Also the length of time can make a difference. But then with departments with loads of interest for staff, any regular staff should definitely be put back in as trialists imo but possibly with exceptions for senior staff or management depending on the opinion of the manager hiring them.

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Even I know who you mean, he tried it when I went up to manager after you resigned :P.

The fact that you're annoyed about being put on trial just makes you look power hungry, personally if you refused a trial from me (if I was the manager) I just wouldn't re-hire you

If you plan to stay longer than 1-2 weeks, then why does it matter if you have the word "trialist" in your usertitle? because tbh thats the only difference.

I understand the reasoning, although I feel your trial should only be 2 weeks as opposed to a month due to the fact you've worked there before. Quite simply if you are not prepared to go on a small trial, then why do you deserve to have all the staff privileges. It shouldn't really bother you, the only thing you don't get access to is the ability to kick now (think staff cant mute anymore idk).

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Originally Posted by Hayden

I understand the reasoning, although I feel your trial should only be 2 weeks as opposed to a month due to the fact you've worked there before. Quite simply if you are not prepared to go on a small trial, then why do you deserve to have all the staff privileges. It shouldn't really bother you, the only thing you don't get access to is the ability to kick now (think staff cant mute anymore idk).

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It is 2 weeks.

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Originally Posted by zebbadi

It is 2 weeks.

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Oh yeah pmsl sorry I got mixed up with comps x

So basically what people are saying is that it's okay to have special treatments? Some staff are allowed to come back fully and others have to take a trial? Sam never worked Rosy, if she wanted to come back, would she be put in a trial as well? @Wispur; @Samanfa; @xxMATTGxx;
@Viba; that's not the only thing as I've stated before.
@lRhyss; If I refused a trial from you, you wouldn't need to re-hire me because I wouldn't have wanted it anyway.. Your statement doesn't make much sense.

It is fine to put people on trial if the manager has never worked with you before. Think it should be a shorter one than trialists though.

Oh for goodness sake, he's a new manager he didn't hire you as staff previously, there is no harm in returning as a trialist. It's not that hard to pass a HxHD trial. Get over it.

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Originally Posted by LiquidLuck.

So basically what people are saying is that it's okay to have special treatments? Some staff are allowed to come back fully and others have to take a trial? Sam never worked Rosy, if she wanted to come back, would she be put in a trial as well? @Wispur; @Samanfa; @xxMATTGxx;
@Viba; that's not the only thing as I've stated before.
@lRhyss; If I refused a trial from you, you wouldn't need to re-hire me because I wouldn't have wanted it anyway.. Your statement doesn't make much sense.

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I've just searched announcements and when you left it was in September, and I remember in Rare Values you hadn't actually done anything for a while without telling us or keeping us updated and from what I remember you were close to dismissal but then you resigned from everything via General Management instead. So imo you're lucky to have been allowed back in to Rare Values without a trial. I'm not sure if the same thing happened with your other departments, but it has been 8 months so it's perfectly understandable to me for you to have to return on a trial basis. However, it's not our decision to make - it's up to @zebbadi; and unless Chris @Wispur; has a problem with his decision then it doesn't need to be changed.

You should always have to restart as a trial

If you left, you gave up your position.

You should have to apply and start all over again like every other person who enters the department does, just because you were here 9 months ago and quit due to other commitments (how long is it before those commitments are going to make you quit again) doesn't mean you get to bypass the regular recruitment method. You should be starting at the bottom and working your way to where you used to be, not just get an easy pass as you done it before.

Equal rights for everyone

i.e I run a gaming community if someone resigned I warn them that under no circumstance will they be able to return unless they go through the normal applications, get accepted, get put on trial then pass the trial. Then enforce that when they do decide to return.

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Originally Posted by LiquidLuck.

So basically what people are saying is that it's okay to have special treatments? Some staff are allowed to come back fully and others have to take a trial? Sam never worked Rosy, if she wanted to come back, would she be put in a trial as well? @Wispur; @Samanfa; @xxMATTGxx;
@Viba; that's not the only thing as I've stated before.
@lRhyss; If I refused a trial from you, you wouldn't need to re-hire me because I wouldn't have wanted it anyway.. Your statement doesn't make much sense.

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my Statement makes perfect sense...

You: Hey Rhyss, can I re-join Helpdesk? I'll PM Matt and ask for the perms
Me: You can but as a trialist as I don't know who you are or what you're like as staff
You: What, no? Just let me re-join as full staff...
Me: No

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Is this still going on? Jesus christ. It's only a two week trial and if you think you're going to be dedicated there shouldn't be a problem? It's only two weeks after all.

Wouldn't be surprised if Sammy said no after all this to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Smurfed-

Is this still going on? Jesus christ. It's only a two week trial and if you think you're going to be dedicated there shouldn't be a problem? It's only two weeks after all.

Wouldn't be surprised if Sammy said no after all this to be honest.

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I'd say no. All of this over something so stupid.

It's fair if they dont know what you're like in the department and how you'd do in the job as many people have said,
If someones already been in the department and gets promoted and then puts you on trial but doesn't put someone else who returned on a trial might be because they saw you in the department when you were there before you quit and how you were and thought differently maybe??? if that makes sense

I know as well as anybody that people who give feedback are treated as troublemakers or habbox haters. She's bringing her case as feedback, giving reasons for why she feels this way and asking for discussion. There's absolutely no reason to withdraw a trial offer because of a feedback thread, it's a perfectly reasonable request.

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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

There was a thing, I don't know how official, a while ago and I think the general discussion agreed that people could return to the level under their last one? So in RV for example, if you were manager you COULD return as Head, if you were Head as Senior, if you were Senior then as staff and if you were staff then as trialist (obviously different now senior doesn't exist).

... that seems to make sense to me, anyway.

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Well Habboxlive has Senior and so does the events team but for habboxlive works different as it has seniors and heads for different timezones :P So I don't think this will work out for that team :P. Although I see what you mean :)

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Originally Posted by XxZammyXx

Well Habboxlive has Senior and so does the events team but for habboxlive works different as it has seniors and heads for different timezones :P So I don't think this will work out for that team :P. Although I see what you mean :)

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huh

I was just explaining that's the way it used to work in Rare Values, the idea that if you were a Senior (generally showing more dedication than just 'staff') then you could return at the level below you. Most returning staff (I'd say after 3, 6 months - something like that) would have to re-trial in that case.

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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

huh

I was just explaining that's the way it used to work in Rare Values, the idea that if you were a Senior (generally showing more dedication than just 'staff') then you could return at the level below you. Most returning staff (I'd say after 3, 6 months - something like that) would have to re-trial in that case.

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Yeah I know lol I was just trying to explain something :P
Being retrial doesn't bother me really and it's only 2 weeks anyways and that's when they can judge on how much work you have done and how dedicated you are. :)

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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

huh

I was just explaining that's the way it used to work in Rare Values, the idea that if you were a Senior (generally showing more dedication than just 'staff') then you could return at the level below you. Most returning staff (I'd say after 3, 6 months - something like that) would have to re-trial in that case.

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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I tried that system. I remember doing it for a couple of people I think (I could be wrong though), of course it wouldn't work now :(.