Far more layed back. Given the situation, we can't be too picky. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Bolt660
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Far more layed back. Given the situation, we can't be too picky. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Bolt660
were u told not to use that excuse until v7Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrawrrr
only positive feedback is listened to and built upon. negative feedback which is usually the most useful is ignored. fact.
Not completely 'fact' but true for most of the time. I'll agree the feedback section can be very daunting when everyone is shouting all at once, but I'm so frustrated with the apparent lack of progress. How else are we supposed to react after four years? I honestly don't care that you keep saying you're doing stuff behind the scenes, PROVE IT. Why should we take your word for granted?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle
Why is it practically everyone is clamouring for general management to make an action plan and still they refuse?
nope, it's a fact. only suggestions for improvement or features (the box, for example) is heard and anything that requires actual thinking and problem solving skill is disregarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Empired
oh my bad, you seem to be right. I've just been back through the last two pages of habbox feedback and not a single in-depth problem has been properly tackled as far as I can seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Kyle
I honestly think one if the current problems is you're doing too many big events when you need to concentrate on the departments, I saw it with the help desk. Didn't get a chance to build on the staff because we were always expected to do our part in a big e vent.
Now dont get me wrong, I'm impressed with the fact they happen but it's not what is needed and isn't really getting any new members in.
Do an action plan, put in it your goals (staffing, rebuilding the departments, evaluate what the community is saying with thoughtful answers instead of just justifying what you already do).
You've got a chance now to make some big changes with having a new gm, utilise it,get out of the mattg regime and build your own.
Like fansites used to be!
I fail to see the reason why the input is needed from people who have no knowledge of what is really happening behind the scenes in General Administration.
Yes, yes it doesn't look like much has been done by the site coders for the newv7v8, but I think a little bit of thanks would be more suited here?
They've not long been in the department as newly appointed Site Coders. I know for a fact they've been slaving away to get things done forv7v8 (only @Rhyss; will get why it's not v7).
Getting someone outside of Habbox or Habbo is completely and utterly stupid. That would totally make the idea of a Habbo(x) themed version applicable to a outsider of Habbo(x). They will have no idea of what Habbo is or of that Habbox. As well as this, if you have so much to complain about that v7 isn't being completed then why don't you take some action? Because, frankly everyone can sit there and complain for 2 years that nothings being done, but at the end of the day it's a voluntary job and it's not something that has to be worked on 24/7. The Site Coders believe it or not have lives (shocking right?).
In the end it's all down to this fellah:
http://www.tashload.com/Uploader/uploads//JagVuJi.jpg
Also, like previously mentioned - Habbox is doing too many big events and community events that it's not taking any time to look at the smaller things that Habbox needs to be able to improve that's mentioned in various Feedback threads, that may not be yet addressed.
Once, these have been addressed then go back to the big events. Big events, aren't a priority - right?
have you literally got a list of passive aggressive key phrases on standby for every feedback thread?
1. not stupid to get someone who actually knows how to code. what it's for doesn't matter so long as you can describe the features you want well enough.
2. I/WE/THEY/X have lives. yes but why take on a voluntary role if you aren't going to do anything for it? There has been plenty of time to dedicate to V7/8 over the last four years, it just hasn't been done.
3. what alternative action to giving feedback when they're disappointed would you suggest that members take?
hosting big events isn't priority, no, but why is there this idea that someone can only do 1 thing at once.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=550010
I think something like the thread above should be done again. Highlight changes or plans for the year and update us every quarter throughout the year to keep us in the loop with what's going on behind the scenes, what failed, what worked etc. With regards to V7, give us a glimpse of the layout. It still isn't real to us at least we can see some sort of design we know that there has actually been some progress with it. Also, does the entire website have to be coded from scratch, the last time that happened it didn't work out too well.
Negative feedback is taken on board, but when they're stupid or pointless suggestions like "SCRAP THE DEPARTMENT" we're obviously going to ignore that :P If something's gone wrong and we can work on it, 9 times out of 10, we do?
Are general management also going to have a space on this monthly briefing to talk about what they're doing?
It could be a good idea, bit like runescape's behind the scenes monthly thing. Nice to see something done anyway, technically more than I was asking for but we shall see, the weekly briefing was a bit of a joke back in the day really. Hopefully this one will be more substantial :D
In our briefing the general management always generally have a bit too, so I'd say it'll be the same for the box :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Inseriousity.
If they wish to write something then they can, but they may want to save their piece for the takeover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inseriousity.
Briefing can be a useful tool for us, so I think that making it public will give everyone a better view into what departments are doing. This is especially true for the more behind the scenes departments such as Graphics, which actually do a lot more than people tend to think.
Yes we always say what we're doing too in those briefings! A monthly briefing is a lot more doable I think, everyone should be doing at least SOMETHING worth mentioning within the space of an entire month. We currently do them fortnightly and they get fairly busy as they are!Quote:
Originally Posted by Inseriousity.
So there's something worth mentioning every month but not every 4 months? the mind boggles!
Good to hear though :)
and yeah i love graphics dept<3
I was talking about departments :p Most of what I post in briefings is to let managers know my availability and plan when it comes to their departments and ideas, as well as asking for things as well. I still won't be publishing a direct list of every single thing I'm working on or projects while they're in their infancy but I can do a tiny bit to fill on a Box page/spread!
Well I hope it appeases you guys who wanted to know more! I do have another idea that will give you an insight, but for now I don't have enough information for it to begin.
ohh so everyone else should have something worth mentioning.
ok can you actually read what I write and not what you want to read:
> everyone (referring to normal managers) should be doing at least SOMETHING worth mentioning within the space of an entire month
> I still won't be publishing a direct list of every single thing I'm working on or projects while they're in their infancy but I can do a tiny bit to fill on a Box page/spread!
EVERYONE should have something worth mentioning, myself included. I still won't be publishing a list of barely formulated ideas, but I'll post what I'm working on.
Well you do it all the time. I mean again you're saying I wanted every single little thing when I have explained to you enough times that you didn't need to report every single little thing and yet you keep saying it, simply because it suits your flawed argument.
I apologise for getting EVERYONE and then you saying 'when I said that I meant departments' confused. :)
You want a list of every event we plan when its in its infancy
which I simply refuse to do :PQuote:
Much better to have an idea released and everyone know about it than not released and nobody know about it, especially if it's the idea that could turn Habbox around.
That's all, I'll post what I did earlier in the thread regularly but that's as far as I'll go.
There must be a hell of a lot of ideas that never get past the planning stage if you're constantly working as you say and yet nothing gets announced
And yeah Chris we found out earlier in the thread that you're not allowed to point out the inconsistencies in what management say and do, how rude of you to still not know that their words don't mean the same as what mere mortals such as us know them to mean
Errr no that's stretching my words. There is nothing there about releasing ideas in their infancy. My point was that it's better for an idea to be released and everyone know about it than letting it die out so actually, was more about releasing ideas when they're at death's door rather than leaving them to die.
3 big projects that general management are working on every 4 months. Without getting into religion here but I suppose it'd depend on your definition of infancy haha. I would imagine an idea would need some shape or at the very least a guarantee that it'd be possible to do within the 4 months (so your 6 month idea for instance wouldn't cut it) before you'd add it into an action plan.
A lot of my "constantly working" time goes into overseeing everything the departments do, day-to-day and event planning and creating the box! It's not like our job is JUST to make new things :P
Maybe I am stretching your words a bit but that's just the impression I seem to get from these threads. Whatever happens, we're bringing you a briefing every month now so just see how that goes. I'm off to bed.
I don't imagine you actually do anything for overseeing departments, day to day running, events etc rather than the approval of large events, and deal with anything managers or staff pm you?
Laura helps to look after Graphics whenever I'm away, writes feedback for staff's work, and writes department reports as well. @lawrawrrr; you've also worked on the Alteration Archive early this year :)Quote:
Originally Posted by scottish
It's good to know the basis of what you're doing. And that you are concentrating more then we'd think on the departments (as it's often hard to know from the outside)
In these briefings or sections in The Box is it not possible to just say 'We have a big event coming up planned by General Management/Competitions/Help Desk/mixture of departments'? I don't think Mike is asking you to take us through your ideas step by step, but just to mention it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrawrrr
You seem to be under the impression you can either tell us nothing or everything. There is an in between, is there not?
I haven't said that - in fact earlier in the thread I wrote as much as I would want to release - that IS the in between, and that's what I'll put in!Quote:
Originally Posted by Empired
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Ok cool I just think you were thinking Mike was telling you to post what you're doing step-by-step when he wasn't saying that at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrawrrr
Well lots of fun things are always being planned by competitions, so everyone should forever be excited xxxxxx
including the amazing hunger games event
Actually he only ever worked on his V6.5 or w/e upgrade **** he was working on. All that was scrapped when Tomf/Adam/Kieran took over.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Don
he was doing the habboxlive merge