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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

oh my god what IS THIS THIS LOOKS LIKE THE BEST/WORST IDEA EVER

achievements system: I didn't like the old one whatsoever, from an admin side it was a nightmare, and could only be automated from the forum, whereas we want people to be involved in all departments - like entering x number of comps, creating graphics, doing wiki edits, attending x number of events. From what I could see too, not a huge percentage of people were actually entering said achievements, a lot of people (like me) couldn't really be bothered to fill out the thread for a few tokens really.

If there's a way it can *literally* all work automatically (which im about 99.9999999% sure isn't possible) then fine & dandy IMO, no skin off our backs, but someone's got to come up with all that admin and spend the time implementing it and we've all got other things that are more important to focus on right now than putting a hell of a lot of effort into reviving a dead

I really love the challenges thing that Chris does though and I'm glad there's plans to bring that back with events :-)

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obviously you can't automate it with in client stuff (well, theoretically speaking you could but it would be way too awkward to implement).

no system will work fully automatically.

So basically "we'd like to have achievements that reward you for posting, attending events, posting in comps, gfx, etc but we can't be bothered doing the admin side of it to reward you for that stuff, so instead we'll just give you nothing"

and inseriousity. said, challenges were achievements basically..

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Originally Posted by scottish

obviously you can't automate it with in client stuff (well, theoretically speaking you could but it would be way too awkward to implement).

no system will work fully automatically.

So basically "we'd like to have achievements that reward you for posting, attending events, posting in comps, gfx, etc but we can't be bothered doing the admin side of it to reward you for that stuff, so instead we'll just give you nothing"

and inseriousity. said, challenges were achievements basically..

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yes but achievements were all the time, challenges aren't :P

All of those things you mentioned have rewards anyway, or at least the chance to, it's just gathering it all in one place, which is something I'm working on (not an achievements system but a literal list!)

So you're gonna make a list of achievements/stuff to be rewarded for.. which is different from the achievement system how? :P

There are 11 managers, 4 AGMs and participants. There is absolutely no reason why the big-project achievements system cannot be broken down into 'small scale' chunks for each person thereby rendering the 'lots of admin' excuse useless. Ultimately, the system provided was flawed but that does not mean the concept itself is redundant. You would just improve the system and members would've been patient with that process (they seemed to acknowledge it was a big project and brand new idea. It was bound to have teething troubles) but no not at Habbox. At Habbox, it was left to die then removed at the first opportunity.

That's why I'm going to continue working on it. It'd be a bonus if it was reimplemented again but at the very least, it would show you just how easy you give up on projects that don't necessarily have to die.

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Originally Posted by scottish

So you're gonna make a list of achievements/stuff to be rewarded for.. which is different from the achievement system how? :P

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Because instead of having a "request achievement" thing that gives you a certain prize or that you submit and someone else considers it you literally have a list of:

Thing you can enter • Weekly/monthly • Department • Prize
Thing you can enter • Weekly/monthly • Department • Prize

With links of course, it's basically just compiling everything a member can enter at Habbox that ALREADY EXISTS, not anything on *top* of said competitions.

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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

Because instead of having a "request achievement" thing that gives you a certain prize or that you submit and someone else considers it you literally have a list of:

Thing you can enter • Weekly/monthly • Department • Prize
Thing you can enter • Weekly/monthly • Department • Prize

With links of course, it's basically just compiling everything a member can enter at Habbox that ALREADY EXISTS, not anything on *top* of said competitions.

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So it's getting rid of anything an achievement system would offer and just a list of what's already here.

So it still lacks loads of achievements that were on achievements system/could be on it.

loving that chris is claiming the achievements system as his own under a different name pfft it's legit what achievements were meant to be!

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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

oh my god what IS THIS THIS LOOKS LIKE THE BEST/WORST IDEA EVER

achievements system: I didn't like the old one whatsoever, from an admin side it was a nightmare, and could only be automated from the forum, whereas we want people to be involved in all departments - like entering x number of comps, creating graphics, doing wiki edits, attending x number of events. From what I could see too, not a huge percentage of people were actually entering said achievements, a lot of people (like me) couldn't really be bothered to fill out the thread for a few tokens really.

If there's a way it can *literally* all work automatically (which im about 99.9999999% sure isn't possible) then fine & dandy IMO, no skin off our backs, but someone's got to come up with all that admin and spend the time implementing it and we've all got other things that are more important to focus on right now than putting a hell of a lot of effort into reviving a dead

I really love the challenges thing that Chris does though and I'm glad there's plans to bring that back with events :-)

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It was really good. I was just said the DW party didn't make it through :( I've been waiting 5 years for another chance to rise to the top and implement my fiscal reform.

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Originally Posted by scottish

So it's getting rid of anything an achievement system would offer and just a list of what's already here.

So it still lacks loads of achievements that were on achievements system/could be on it.

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I'm not the one who said it was anything like an achievements system! I've already said why I don't think achievements should be brought back. The idea of the list is sort of like an FAQ, if you're interested in "x", heres "a, b and c that might interest you"

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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

I'm not the one who said it was anything like an achievements system! I've already said why I don't think achievements should be brought back. The idea of the list is sort of like an FAQ, if you're interested in "x", heres "a, b and c that might interest you"

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You think it shouldn't be brought back because it requires admins to do work and isn't 100% automatic. When realistically no system is ever going to be fully automatic (awards and everything in your FAQ included).

Hire someone who's an Assistant Assistant General Manager who does all the jobs that GM or AGM's can't be bothered doing, or Assistant Assistant Forum Manager, similar description but FM / AFM.

I'm just in from college and Nick is in bed so I will reply to this later when I have some work done.

Firstly, you don't have to remind us, I am aware it is STILL Monday thanks.

1. We
2. don't
3. need
4. to
5. .

I think you are getting mixed up with "You need to do this" and "Can we do this". I am up for doing every single one of those things on that list and I want to do them but we have other stuff going on that needs to be sorted first. Some of the smaller stuff yes but some of the bigger things that take time aren't going to happen straight away.

As I said, I am just in from college and will give a more in depth answer later when I have some of my college work done and will go through all the replies too.

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Originally Posted by dbgtz

It was really good. I was just said the DW party didn't make it through :( I've been waiting 5 years for another chance to rise to the top and implement my fiscal reform.

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five years of planning eh?

i expect big things from your party, dbgtz, big things

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Originally Posted by Phil

I'm just in from college and Nick is in bed so I will reply to this later when I have some work done.

Firstly, you don't have to remind us, I am aware it is STILL Monday thanks.

1. We
2. don't
3. need
4. to
5. .

I think you are getting mixed up with "You need to do this" and "Can we do this". I am up for doing every single one of those things on that list and I want to do them but we have other stuff going on that needs to be sorted first. Some of the smaller stuff yes but some of the bigger things that take time aren't going to happen straight away.

As I said, I am just in from college and will give a more in depth answer later when I have some of my college work done and will go through all the replies too.

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Last I checked your job was forum management, which would dictate those roles fall on you.

That general election thing looks good. I'm willing to be Forum Manager for someone's manifesto stuff - sort out moderation and forum events.

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Originally Posted by Lewis

five years of planning eh?

i expect big things from your party, dbgtz, big things

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Well, if there are elections in this supposedly democratic forum, I will use the opportunity to prove myself, and my policies to the electorate.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

That general election thing looks good. I'm willing to be Forum Manager for someone's manifesto stuff - sort out moderation and forum events.

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Forum Events is probably more on my end to be fair as Competitions Manager - i'm aware it's been too long since we've had a decent one but that will all be changed soon.

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Originally Posted by dbgtz

Entirely unrelated but I feel a whole new thread isn't needed, but is there going to be another Habbox Election this year?

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Also, if this is done, there should be a leaders debate for the lol.

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Originally Posted by dbgtz

Also, if this is done, there should be a leaders debate for the lol.

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Originally Posted by Yupt

Forum Events is probably more on my end to be fair as Competitions Manager - i'm aware it's been too long since we've had a decent one but that will all be changed soon.

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make this all happen my green yupt

my snp vs dbgtz's dw party

Habboxforum.sco along with habbox translated to scots.

"Welcome tae habboxforum! habboxforum.com is part ay habbo's oldest fansite, habbox.com. haur at habboxforum we offer ye a chance tae meit fellaw habbos, discuss a wide range ay topics an' best ay aw pure dae it in a range ay events an' competitions in which ye coods win rares an' credits oan habbo.com.

wherever in th' warld ye ur, ye can tak' part in thes fin by registerin' at habboxforum the-day! click haur tae gie involved noo ur click haur fur help.

this site uses cookies. some ay th' cookies we use ur essential fur parts ay th' site tae operate an' hae awreddy bin sit. we also use google analytics an' google adsense scripts, which aw use cookies. ye main delete an' block aw cookies frae thes site, but parts ay th' site wulnae wark. tae fin' it mair abit cookies oan thes website, see uir privacy policy. if ye continue tae browse oan thes site 'at means ye hae agreed tae accept cookies frae thes website."

not enough swearing @scottish;

Don't know if General Management would want to nab that as an event for them to do? If not, and it has interest, then ofc i'd host it for you guys, however i'll be honest and admit if I were to do it it wouldn't be for a while as we do have a few events already in the works that would take priority.

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Originally Posted by scottish

Habboxforum.sco along with habbox translated to scots.

"Welcome tae habboxforum! habboxforum.com is part ay habbo's oldest fansite, habbox.com. haur at habboxforum we offer ye a chance tae meit fellaw habbos, discuss a wide range ay topics an' best ay aw pure dae it in a range ay events an' competitions in which ye coods win rares an' credits oan habbo.com.

wherever in th' warld ye ur, ye can tak' part in thes fin by registerin' at habboxforum the-day! click haur tae gie involved noo ur click haur fur help.

this site uses cookies. some ay th' cookies we use ur essential fur parts ay th' site tae operate an' hae awreddy bin sit. we also use google analytics an' google adsense scripts, which aw use cookies. ye main delete an' block aw cookies frae thes site, but parts ay th' site wulnae wark. tae fin' it mair abit cookies oan thes website, see uir privacy policy. if ye continue tae browse oan thes site 'at means ye hae agreed tae accept cookies frae thes website."

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That is one of my habbox SNP policies to introduce this, threat not!

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/k...vote-snp-6.png

general election is in may lol. so april/may :P

@Phil; remove "This week, all members that make 100 posts in one week can choose to receive either 1 week of VIP or 250 Tokens to spend in the forum shop along with the Forum Award." and put something better there.

as the prize varies depending who's won it, consecutive wins etc it's incorrect, for example this is my third week winning it I believe? so I get 100 rep + 1 month VIP, not 1 week/250 toks.

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wait it was @Nick; not @Phil;

also, what happens on the 4th week? do they continue to get 100 rep/1 month VIP, or go back to #1?

you go back to 1

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Originally Posted by scottish

@Phil; remove "This week, all members that make 100 posts in one week can choose to receive either 1 week of VIP or 250 Tokens to spend in the forum shop along with the Forum Award." and put something better there.

as the prize varies depending who's won it, consecutive wins etc it's incorrect, for example this is my third week winning it I believe? so I get 100 rep + 1 month VIP, not 1 week/250 toks.

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wait it was @Nick; not @Phil;

also, what happens on the 4th week? do they continue to get 100 rep/1 month VIP, or go back to #1?

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Nick seems to have copied the automatically (I say automatically, I manually triggered it) generated thread in the admin area which is why the issue with the 'this week' is there.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

Nick seems to have copied the automatically (I say automatically, I manually triggered it) generated thread in the admin area which is why the issue with the 'this week' is there.

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Yeah they done the same thing last week, so I assumed it was the script that created it.

so need to come up with a better phrase :P

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Originally Posted by scottish

so I assumed it was the script that created it.

so need to come up with a better phrase :P

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Nah, last week's was done by phil.

If forum management want to change the template they just need to edit this thread:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=819381

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

Nah, last week's was done by phil.

If forum management want to change the template they just need to edit this thread:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=819381

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Yeah, I figured the script that generates the list also generated the template so they could just copy/paste it over, but obviously changing the prizes screwed that up.

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Originally Posted by scottish

Yeah, I figured the script that generates the list also generated the template so they could just copy/paste it over, but obviously changing the prizes screwed that up.

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Well, I did it after the prizes changed, it's just the phrasing used in the first time after (When no one had 100).

yeah should probably set a generic one so they can continue to copy + paste

just like see here for the prizes then they can tell them their actual prize in the PM, as it seems too difficult to change it weekly judging by past 2 weeks :P

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Originally Posted by scottish

yeah should probably set a generic one so they can continue to copy + paste

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If it had a generic one I could just set it to post straight into Announcements - although I'd have to make it send PMs to forum management so they don't forget about prizes.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

If it had a generic one I could just set it to post straight into Announcements - although I'd have to make it send PMs to forum management so they don't forget about prizes.

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do it.

i want my redundency pay out

i'll give you 50c to give me your perms

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Originally Posted by scottish

Well firstly I'll leave a reminder that it's Monday for @Nick; and @Phil; to post the Weekly Posting Stats.

Secondly (again mostly @Phil; and @Nick; ), i'll give you's a list of stuff you still need to do;

1) Fix the categories for Awards
2) Rework the top prize and possibly reward the top 5 people for Weekly Posting Stats
3) Organise Arcade tournaments
4) Reoganise the arcade categories
5) Were you going to implement the lottery/raffle for tokens? you never gave a conclusive answer in the other thread

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Okay I can reply to your demands now.

1. *+*Maybe*+* this weekend. When I do this I want to do it properly, make new categories, order all the awards appropriately such as have them in correct order or in order by date/season.

2. Haven't spoken to Nick about this yet.

3. Concentrating on something else at the moment but we are both keen on doing them.

4. I'll have a look hopefully tomorrow.

5. Maybe.

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Originally Posted by Kyle

i have found that without other trivial pressures people can be much more productive with their ideas. it might take months, but at least somebody is working on something.

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Glad SOMEBODY in Feedback understands this.

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Originally Posted by dbgtz

Entirely unrelated but I feel a whole new thread isn't needed, but is there going to be another Habbox Election this year?

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Hmm, looks interesting, could be fun and a nightmare :P

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Originally Posted by scottish

@Phil; remove "This week, all members that make 100 posts in one week can choose to receive either 1 week of VIP or 250 Tokens to spend in the forum shop along with the Forum Award." and put something better there.

as the prize varies depending who's won it, consecutive wins etc it's incorrect, for example this is my third week winning it I believe? so I get 100 rep + 1 month VIP, not 1 week/250 toks.

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Keep reading

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

Nah, last week's was done by phil.

If forum management want to change the template they just need to edit this thread:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=819381

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What is that lmao

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

If it had a generic one I could just set it to post straight into Announcements - although I'd have to make it send PMs to forum management so they don't forget about prizes.

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Originally Posted by scottish

do it.

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Don't do it, thanks. :P

In response to the Achievements System, I will now be working on it.

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Originally Posted by Shonly

In response to the Achievements System, I will now be working on it.

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the actual achievements system?

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Originally Posted by Phil

Don't do it, thanks. :P

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Why not, if it makes it actually posted on time then all you/nick need to do is the follow up PMs.

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Originally Posted by scottish

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Why not, if it makes it actually posted on time then all you/nick need to do is the follow up PMs.

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It is being posted on time.

First week in what 4 weeks it's been posted within the correct 24 hour time frame? :P

I'd argue otherwise.

Why no to automatic though? I don't see any downfalls as you'd both be notified via PM to deal with it then tell the other one you've done it (communication is key, btw).