Does God Exist?

GOD does not exist, GODS exist. I believe in Greek Mythology but I believe in the big bang theory.

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Originally Posted by hmv

GOD does not exist, GODS exist. I believe in Greek Mythology but I believe in the big bang theory.

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I think the big bang theory is Rubbish and believe there is only one God!
And as the world develops It's starting to come clear that God does exist and people just don't want to believe.

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Originally Posted by Dj-Flame

I think the big bang theory is Rubbish and believe there is only one God!
And as the world develops It's starting to come clear that God does exist and people just don't want to believe.

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People are becoming less likly to believe in god as science explains the real reasoning behind many of the things previously just attributed to god. Religion is slowly on its way out seeing as it becomes more and more evident what is specified in the religious texts is untrue and the god concepts are both logically unsound and unnecessary "/

So quite the opposite of your own claim, All the evidence in the world points to the answers science provides (after all that conclusion is based on all the evidence), nothing though even hints at there being truth the religious texts and the attached gods.)

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GOD does not exist, GODS exist. I believe in Greek Mythology but I believe in the big bang theory.

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People been up mount Olympus, aint no gods to be seen o.0

I understand were you are comming from as in "who can prove if god exists" but rather than thinking once I die thats the end of me shouldn't we atleast hope that God does exist and so does afterlife?
I make myself believe he does exist just for that very reason.

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Originally Posted by Mentor

People are becoming less likly to believe in god as science explains the real reasoning behind many of the things previously just attributed to god. Religion is slowly on its way out seeing as it becomes more and more evident what is specified in the religious texts is untrue and the god concepts are both logically unsound and unnecessary "/

So quite the opposite of your own claim, All the evidence in the world points to the answers science provides (after all that conclusion is based on all the evidence), nothing though even hints at there being truth the religious texts and the attached gods.)


People been up mount Olympus, aint no gods to be seen o.0

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Okay, I don't agree with everything in Greek mythology. Hey, who knows? I believe that their place moves, just as the Earth does. It follows west around the world. But I also believe that they are not ON Mount Olympus but floating above it, but we cannot see them. You can only see them if you are needed.
But these gods didn't create Earth, they control different things in the world. Such as Zeus the sky and Poseidon water.
Overall: Their place changes but they didn't create Earth.

Also, I believe that they have two forms. 1) A human form and 2) A ''God'' form. They look completely different in their human form than their God form. You can only see them if they want you to see them or if they are in their human form. God form; they decide to let you see them.

Well, hey. That is my theory.
If God(s) created the world there would have to be more than one. God couldn't do that all on his own. And if God exists, how was he created huh?
Sometimes I wonder how the universe was created itself.

I only read the first page of this dissucsion so sorry if someone has said something like this, but i dont beleive in god, or fate. Beleiving in fate means you dont have any free will or the choice to do what ever you want. I beleive the reason many people beleive in god is because they like to have faith in someone who they beleive is protecting them and like the idea of heaven. Which in reality is probaly non existent. There is far to much proof to show that god is not real and yet so many people beleive in him, it amazes me. Im not saying it is wrong for someone to beleive in god, after all i may be incorrect but this is my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Sponge Bob

I only read the first page of this dissucsion so sorry if someone has said something like this, but i dont beleive in god, or fate. Beleiving in fate means you dont have any free will or the choice to do what ever you want. I beleive the reason many people beleive in god is because they like to have faith in someone who they beleive is protecting them and like the idea of heaven. Which in reality is probaly non existent. There is far to much proof to show that god is not real and yet so many people beleive in him, it amazes me. Im not saying it is wrong for someone to beleive in god, after all i may be incorrect but this is my opinion.

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There is also some questions even science cannot explain. I have a lot of free will and Im a Christian who attends chuch once a week :)

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

There is also some questions even science cannot explain. I have a lot of free will and Im a Christian who attends chuch once a week :)

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The thing about science is although it might not be explainable 'as yet' (I'm agnostic :P) is that science can try, something religion doesnt do, it simply states that it is the work of god or divine intervention (if you don't mind me being blunt and straight to the point). Some people are fine with this, leaving their lives in the hands or an omnipitent non-physical being, whereas some aren't comfortable with this and need actual validity and would rather seek to understand it rather than accept it as an enevitability that only the onnipitent non-physical being can do.

Even though I have stated I do not believe in God, it still annoys me when other "atheists" simply use 'then who created God?' as a way to put forward their point of view. Obviously part of the point of believing in God is that he has always been and always will be. I also don't see why Christians don't simply counteract the science argument by simply saying, 'well God created science, just like He created everything else'.

I'm just saying, those seem like pretty obvious points when looked at from an impartial point of view :P.

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Originally Posted by Mentor

Religion feeds of ignorance, the reason creationists don't believe in evolution isn't based on any logical reasoning, but instead or purely having no idea what evolution even is, never lone how it works. Christianity protects its interest by spreading outright lies about scientific theories in order to make them sound less credible.

You unfortunately are getting them to it seems. Before matter/the universe or even time exists, there were chemicals just magically sitting there which then exploded to create the universe? if thats what you've been told of the big bang no wonder is sounds absurd. It is.
The Big bang theory has no claims of any chemicals sitting there, or a reaction of these chemicals that caused an explosion. The big bang isn't even directly related to the beginning of the universe itself, its an event thought to have happens a few nano seconds after the universes advent when all the matter in the universe was packed in to an almost infinity small and dense mass. The specifics are disagreed on, but a common understanding is the explosion that sent are universe speeding out to form what we now know of it, was a reaction of matter and anti-matter, both which were crammed together. When matter/antimatter collides, enormous amounts of energy was released, splitting the atom has nothing on these sorts of quantities. Fortunately the amounts of matter / anti matter were not the same, once everything had canceled out, one was left over, formed the universe as we know it, and was dubbed matter by us.

As to the original creation of the universe there are a great number of different theories about what exactly happened. Noting that time having started with the universe itself, being just another dimension in it, the idea of a before the universe doesn't really make sense. M theory proposes the event may have been caused by another dimension overlapping with our own, but this is pure hypothesis as far as I'm aware in its current state. Are scientific understanding as it is, isnt able to answer such questions yet for sure. Because we accept this, rather than make up an answer (god) or give up, we simply progress with research and science in general, increasing are overall understanding and slowly moving us towards a point we really will be able to say with some assurance exactly what happened and why :)
For now, the why is best left to philosophy :)

An abstract god no. The Christan, Muslim, Jewish and pretty much any other concept of god you want to mention on the other hand can be. Specific qualities of these gods are mentioned and on a purely logical basis fail miserably. The simple paradox "Could god make a rock so heavy he could not lift it" illustrates this. Being all powerful (omnipotent) is not logically sound, so any god with such a trait (all of the aforementioned) could not logically exist.

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Very simply How?

how would you know if chemicals were there before time / the universe, there is no proof, it has the same theorys and beliefs science if you did not know is all based on therorys we don't have enough techno to prove any of this is true so just like christianity / jewdaism and so on science is a belief... its just how you put science as a perspective.