England.. Turning Into America?

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Minus the deportation :P I think if someone speeds, like rediculously over the speed limit, the car should be taken off them and locked away, and you must pay an on the spot fine PLUS the fee for having the car locked up.

I really don't see why there's so much violence in this country now, although it maybe the media suddenly targeting it which makes it seem popular lately. Either way, I would like to see how they attempt to tackle it. We need proper prisons and prison sentences before that though :/

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Yeh, there's not a great deal of point in sending people to prison when some of them have better lives inside than they do on the outside. We really don't seem to take crime as seriously as other countries do and that's why we have this massive rise in crime because you'll always get off with a caution or something simular on your first offense. I agree we need to tougher on our punishments and sort out our disgrace of prisons, which seem more like premier inns at the moment.

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Originally Posted by mat64

Yeh, there's not a great deal of point in sending people to prison when some of them have better lives inside than they do on the outside. We really don't seem to take crime as seriously as other countries do and that's why we have this massive rise in crime because you'll always get off with a caution or something simular on your first offense. I agree we need to tougher on our punishments and sort out our disgrace of prisons, which seem more like premier inns at the moment.

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Indeed, the "TV prison" which is usually pictured as surgical green walls, a fold up bed and a sink don't really exist as the standard prison in the UK. If they were more like that, then the current time in prisons would make more sense (not total sense though :P). I agree with the people who say "Life should be life." I would like to know where the idea of carrying a knife comes from. It kind be to "kept safe" because they seem to be stabbing for the sake of it, or when they don't like the looks of someone.

You can hire a PS3 for £2.50 a day and have a free gym. :rolleyes:

There are no turf wars, and violent crime rates have actually dropped. Everything is just blown out of proportion and you my friend and believing it.

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Originally Posted by JackBuddy

There are no turf wars, and violent crime rates have actually dropped. Everything is just blown out of proportion and you my friend and believing it.

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Open your eyes, there are turf wars everywhere, (postcode fights).
I have them in Ipswich, and thats nothing like London.

And infact, its blown UNDER proportion.

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Originally Posted by Cells

Open your eyes, there are turf wars everywhere, (postcode fights).
I have them in Ipswich, and thats nothing like London.

And infact, its blown UNDER proportion.

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No it's not.

Some people read too much of the Daily Mail. There have allways been gangs and rivalries, what about the Skinheads/ rockers and the teddy boys? They pretty much kicked the **** out of eachother. Violent crime rates are down... end of.

Don't start this Britain becoming like America thing. We may speak the same language but America is still a completely seperate country. If you're saying britain is becoming like america simply over crime then you need to go south africa or india, They have plenty of nife crime but you wouldn't say they were like america.

I am a Londoner and although I am not a guy who would go around stabbing fellers, I can say it is boring living here. No wonder people are so violent. people do it for a kick, if you have a quasar or arcade consider yourself lucky cos all we got here is a sports center a park and lots and lots of houses. Great fun ain't it.

LOL this 'turf wars' crap has been going on in my town for years, so stupid lmao.

Firstly if you are going to talk about the government the thread title should be changed to "Britain" instead of "England" because the government is still in charge of all of it.

Secondly, why do people compare this nation to the USA? Why not compare it to Brazil or El Salvador? It's far worst there my friend :P

The Policing here is stupid, the Health and Safety regulations are just making everything "unsafe" and the amount of forms a Police officer has to fill in is ridiculous. As a couple of people said, no nonsense policing is where its at, if someone shop lifts, shoot em in the face, that will lower crime ;)

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Originally Posted by Nereo

Firstly if you are going to talk about the government the thread title should be changed to "Britain" instead of "England" because the government is still in charge of all of it.

Secondly, why do people compare this nation to the USA? Why not compare it to Brazil or El Salvador? It's far worst there my friend :P

The Policing here is stupid, the Health and Safety regulations are just making everything "unsafe" and the amount of forms a Police officer has to fill in is ridiculous. As a couple of people said, no nonsense policing is where its at, if someone shop lifts, shoot em in the face, that will lower crime ;)

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Finally someone said it. The police are powerless because they have to fill out a dozen forms for just stopping someone in the street. I see this as the core of the problem, since the Labour Party Conference, the Home Office have promised to sort this out, and the Tory's have promised to sort out paper-work for a few years too. Hopefully we'll now get somewhere, but I personally think this is the root.