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26-06-2009, 08:59 AM
Chippiewill

I was about to leave the house when I was explaining

Basically XP mode will have the best compatibility ever. Basically programs running under it will even be in you win7 task bar e.t.c. so basically you will not even notice the virtual machine. Rather than including all the old files from previous windows as part of windows seven they can instead use XP mode and not bother including any backwards compatibility. They are using it this time round however in future it can be used for compatibility with 32bit programs (Win7 is the last version of windows to come with a 32bit version, MS claims anyway). Hopefully MS will create a bloatware OS for backwards compatibility, that way you can run any programs ever.
26-06-2009, 10:50 AM
Recursion

I think its about bloody time they forced 64bit upon consumers, we've had 64bit CPUs for long enough.
26-06-2009, 11:20 AM
HotelUser

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I don't like you

http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/damn_process.gif

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, and I don't like the way you think Microsoft should "follow" Apple in everyway possible.

No, you're wrong. They should follow eachother in certain ways. Microsoft could release one version of Windows, Apple could get rid of the Apple tax. Two small examples.

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This operating system offers more than Mac Os X and personally they have broken the mold for Windows.

If you think Microsoft offers more than OSX then you don't know much about operating systems at all.

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People love(d) Windows XP because of one reason - it worked. Personally, I love it how Microsoft has added it in to help business like a transition to 7.

Maybe they added the 9 year old OS for compatibility:eusa_wall

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Also, if you're having problems with Windows Vista did you ever think it's your fault? Maybe its YOUR fault for buying faulty hardware, you know that? Maybe the 3rd party who wrote the software did a terrible job - VISTA is not your escape goat. Frankly if you keep up to date, you shouldn't have a problem with it.

Tell that to the millions of people who have had problems with it (yes, I just used font styles too!). You're wrong again. I've owned several Vista machines. Though compatibility with hardware is one issue, there are many issues. Application compatibility is terrible, Vista wasn't very stable, and it's bloody slow.

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I've never had a problem with Windows Vista - ever. Just so you know, Microsoft has re-created Windows, and in my opinon Apples run out of ideas.

And you've never owned or used OSX as your primary operating system. Hmm.... you're not taking sides without knowing anything about the alternative are you? Because that would be very childish. Also, "Apple has run out of ideas?" I guess you wouldn't have a clue what Snow Leopard was, would you?

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What's this bootcamp that comes with OS X? :S:S

Something I use to test an operating system. You'd have to be nuts to actually run Windows on a Mac and use it all the time. What's the point of paying so much for the computer if you're just going to use the awful OS that you could have gotten with a computer for $400 less?

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Originally Posted by 00chips

I was about to leave the house when I was explaining

Basically XP mode will have the best compatibility ever. Basically programs running under it will even be in you win7 task bar e.t.c. so basically you will not even notice the virtual machine. Rather than including all the old files from previous windows as part of windows seven they can instead use XP mode and not bother including any backwards compatibility. They are using it this time round however in future it can be used for compatibility with 32bit programs (Win7 is the last version of windows to come with a 32bit version, MS claims anyway). Hopefully MS will create a bloatware OS for backwards compatibility, that way you can run any programs ever.

You're referring to Unity/Seamless mode. It's not a new feature. Just a feature Microsoft hasn't used.
26-06-2009, 03:49 PM
Chippiewill

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

I guess you wouldn't have a clue what Snow Leopard was, would you?

It was only Bug Fixes....

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Maybe they added the 9 year old OS for compatibility:eusa_wall

Duuuuuuuuuuuur, it helps transition you *Removed*

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Tell that to the millions of people who have had problems with it (yes, I just used font styles too!). You're wrong again. I've owned several Vista machines. Though compatibility with hardware is one issue, there are many issues. Application compatibility is terrible, Vista wasn't very stable, and it's bloody slow.

SP2 Works, try it before you slam it. And it wasn't Vista's fault, part manufacturers didn't bother with drivers for some reason. However I have NEVER had a problem with vista.... EVER

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26-06-2009, 07:17 PM
HotelUser

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Originally Posted by 00chips

It was only Bug Fixes....

Wrong again, my inexperienced friend: http://www.apple.com/macosx/

Even if it did fix bugs, bugs are annoying and should be fixed. If Microsoft shrugged off bugs like you did Windows users would be screwed.

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Originally Posted by 00chips

SP2 Works, try it before you slam it. And it wasn't Vista's fault, part manufacturers didn't bother with drivers for some reason. However I have NEVER had a problem with vista.... EVER

First of all, I have used Windows Vista SP2 on my Compaq laptop. Funny, I didn't connect explorer freezing with DRIVER PROBLEMZ!!1

Also, you're saying, "yeah I can't game because the drivers are crap. I'll just sit here and wait until (or if) they fix them.....just sit here, and not use these applications I need to run because even though I paid $1000 for this machine I will wait it out a few months until these problems are fixed and I can use my computer again."

No. Sorry. Doesn't work for me. That's a fail.

You never had problems with Vista? Well I doubt it. Then again, I doubt you do anything serious on the computer anyway:rolleyes:.
26-06-2009, 07:42 PM
Chippiewill

Why do you think snow leopard was half price? It was just bug fixes, and they are NOT features....

Also I do loads with my Computer TYVM!

You also quite obviously never used the RTM XP.... because Vista wasn't much worse than that.... Actually I have more bugs with XP than vista usually....

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"yeah I can't game because the drivers are crap. I'll just sit here and wait until (or if) they fix them.....just sit here, and not use these applications I need to run because even though I paid $1000 for this machine I will wait it out a few months until these problems are fixed and I can use my computer again."

Pfft, for one, if you upgraded your computer to vista then your an idiot, two, as I said is was out of MS's control. It's all fixed now so deal with it...

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First of all, I have used Windows Vista SP2 on my Compaq laptop. Funny, I didn't connect explorer freezing with DRIVER PROBLEMZ!!1

Windows doesn't always come with drivers, you may have to update them YOURSELF....
26-06-2009, 08:32 PM
Wootzeh

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

First of all, I have used Windows Vista SP2 on my Compaq laptop. Funny, I didn't connect explorer freezing with DRIVER PROBLEMZ!!1

Also, you're saying, "yeah I can't game because the drivers are crap. I'll just sit here and wait until (or if) they fix them.....just sit here, and not use these applications I need to run because even though I paid $1000 for this machine I will wait it out a few months until these problems are fixed and I can use my computer again."

No. Sorry. Doesn't work for me. That's a fail.

You never had problems with Vista? Well I doubt it. Then again, I doubt you do anything serious on the computer anyway:rolleyes:.

There's something up with your computer then, vista is fine.
26-06-2009, 08:51 PM
HotelUser

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Originally Posted by 00chips

Why do you think snow leopard was half price? It was just bug fixes, and they are NOT features....

I cannot express how ignorant your claims are now. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about now. You don't know much about Apple at all and you're making statements like that? And if you don't think those are features then no wonder you haven't had problems on Vista. You probably don't understand all of its components, and its functionality.

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You also quite obviously never used the RTM XP.... because Vista wasn't much worse than that.... Actually I have more bugs with XP than vista usually....

Bull. All that needs to be said. You've embarrassed yourself enough with that ridiculous statement:).

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Originally Posted by 00chips

Pfft, for one, if you upgraded your computer to vista then your an idiot, two, as I said is was out of MS's control. It's all fixed now so deal with it...

I have never and never will downgrade XP to Vista. OEM editions of Vista sucked, driver and software compatibility wise. It was absolutely ridiculous.

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Windows doesn't always come with drivers, you may have to update them YOURSELF....

And on my aspire 9410 when I upgraded Vista drivers I got the friendly BSOD.

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Originally Posted by Wootzeh

There's something up with your computer then, vista is fine.

Don't tell me, you're madly in love with Internet Explorer and you use Windows Media Center constantly;)?
26-06-2009, 09:00 PM
Wootzeh

Yes I do. Why? :) Nice change of subject btw avoiding the main topic.
26-06-2009, 09:08 PM
Chippiewill

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

I cannot express how ignorant your claims are now. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about now. You don't know much about Apple at all and you're making statements like that? And if you don't think those are features then no wonder you haven't had problems on Vista. You probably don't understand all of its components, and its functionality.

I listen to enough Podcasts, tech shows I read around enough to know that the reason why it was cheaper was because they had nothing but bug fixes.

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Bull. All that needs to be said. You've embarrassed yourself enough with that ridiculous statement:).

Er, no? I Probably worded it wrong...

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I have never and never will downgrade XP to Vista.

Well you implied that you did, because every computer I have had which came with Vista WORKED, every person I know who had a computer which came with vista worked. Every report I have heard of XP->Vista failed...

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OEM editions of Vista sucked, driver and software compatibility wise. It was absolutely ridiculous.
And on my aspire 9410 when I upgraded Vista drivers I got the friendly BSOD.

Yes, and we're talking about SP2...

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Don't tell me, you're madly in love with Internet Explorer and you use Windows Media Center constantly;)?

IE8 Rules, (Although I use FF as I can perfectly emulate it within FF), and media center is brilliant....

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