Muslim protesters brand war heroes 'murderers' as homecoming parade turns violent

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Haha you clearly don't understand the Afgan war do you? I do not agree with the war, but at least I understand why we are there. The Taliban were in control of Afghanistan, almost all of it, and from there they carried out terror attacks - 9/11. Obviously we can't have a nation that is run by extremist nutters who have access to weapons of mass destruction and the like, so the US went over and regained control. We and the NATO troops went in and helped alongside the Americans to push the Taliban out, and that is what is currently happening. We are working with the Afgan Government to bring stability and peace into the region - we are not working against the Afgan Government, as you are suggesting; we are attacking the Taliban, who are Islamic extremists that want to destroy YOUR freedom, if you didn't know or realise.

These protesters are extremists, much like the Taliban. I recommend you open your eyes and realise what is happening in this world, clearly you do not know nor understand.

Regardless to all that, it is still so disrespectful to the Armed Forces - they risk their lives and want to do these jobs yet are called murderers and the likes by lazy extremist nutters? Then to top it off, you go and side with them! RAF banner in your sig... pfftt...

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Personally, I respect the decision of troops being in afghanistan, they risk their lives for our freedom and I feel privileged to live in this country. These extremists give muslims a bad name and simply are ignorant and I agree, they should shut their mouths because half the muslims out there live in this country because of its freedom. I'm a muslim and I could never do what the troops do in war, they do it for us and for that I respect them.

@ifuseekamy - Name another one?
That quote is from a site that is completely biased and again Islam, how ignorant can you get?

Send them back.

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Originally Posted by BeanEgg

Some of us are not helping anything, are we? Protecting freedoms?
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/...eature-stories

Let's try to protect theirs in this country first then ours.

Do people still not understand that NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE EXTREMISTS? Seriously, how pathetic can one be. There are over 53 Islamic countries, only Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia are the only known countries where there are extremists. - Most Muslims are ashamed of the minority.

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But it isn't just the extremists that are taught to hate the west, that we are born muslim and stray from our path and that they must actively try to convert or kill non-muslims, no, that is taught to most if not all muslims. People who aren't taught this are not muslim. I know I'll get flamed for this but it only highlights the ignorance on this forum (incoming someone calling me ignorant).

A lot of the people who call Islam things like "the religion of peace" and other nonsense have never even read the Qu'ran or any other Islamic literature like the Ahadith. If people read into it I am sure that they would find their opinion on Islam would change drastically - I know mine did when I read the Qu'ran.

@BeanEgg - Somalia and Yemen are also countries which have problems with extremists.

So another 2 then, out of the 53? - Compare.

As a Christian, I still believe Islam is a religion of peace. ONCE AGAIN, there's a minority and Wig44. - don't be pathetic. I have several Muslim friends who have NO intention of killing 'Non-Muslims'. - In fact one of them is in a relationship with a Jewish girl. - He is a proper Muslim, he preys, fasts and doesn't drink or even eat pork.
I know many people like this. Countries like Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Senegal, Syria, Niger, Chad, Libya, Jordan, Kosovo, Gambia, and the UAE (A LOT MORE) are all muslim countries, they don't hate Christians. Some of these countries have both Christians and Muslims, they live as unity, in one society with no issues.
Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria had great Jewish influence and supposedly all muslims hate Jews? - These countries are currently the most important in the resolution of the Arab - Israeli conflict and are working close with America, and happen to be Islamic.

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Originally Posted by BeanEgg

So another 2 then, out of the 53? - Compare.

As a Christian, I still believe Islam is a religion of peace. ONCE AGAIN, there's a minority and Wig44. - don't be pathetic. I have several Muslim friends who have NO intention of killing 'Non-Muslims'. - In fact one of them is in a relationship with a Jewish girl. - He is a proper Muslim, he preys, fasts and doesn't drink or even eat pork.
I know many people like this. Countries like Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Senegal, Syria, Niger, Chad, Libya, Jordan, Kosovo, Gambia, and the UAE (A LOT MORE) are all muslim countries, they don't hate Christians. Some of these countries have both Christians and Muslims, they live as unity, in one society with no issues.
Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria had great Jewish influence and supposedly all muslims hate Jews? - These countries are currently the most important in the resolution of the Arab - Israeli conflict and are working close with America, and happen to be Islamic.

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An opinion you are entitled to. And as a Christian myself, I do not believe it is a religion of peace. There are incredibly violent verses in the Qu'ran mandating violence against Christians, Jews, Pagans and many more.

In Islam a male Muslim is permitted to marry a Christian or Jew as they are 'People of the Book' but this is not extended to female Muslims because in Islam offspring will follow the father's religion. If this relationship is not marriage (which I assume it is not, please correct me if I am wrong) then it is un-Islamic because in Islam it is strictly mandated that there is no "dating" and that there is only marriage.

As for your list of Muslim countries and the alleged peaceful co-existence, I cannot comment on all of them as I mainly search up on Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, but Egypt has absolutely no place on that list. If you want more links then just ask.

Egypt:

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Crowd...red-17876.html
http://www.aina.org/news/20090708140417.htm
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Egypt...sts-17922.html

I am not quite sure where you got that I said that some of those societies were not influenced by Jews, so I do not know what to say there. Secondly, I have nowhere stated that all Muslims hate Jews - so I kindly ask you to refrain from putting words in my mouth. I would still insist that someone does not prejudge someone because of their religion just like I would insist that they do not judge someone on other things like their race, nationality, sexuality etc.

Edit: As for your -rep, lol. Honestly, I think the fact you have resorted to pretty much the lowest common denominator shows that this debate is over. If you are going to bow out in future, may I suggest you do so in a more graceful manner. That way you don't look so petty.

beanegg, of course this is a VERY SMALL minority of muslims but that doesn't mean we can't rant about islam extremists? they're allowed their own opinion but they're obviously going to be hated, and for a darn good reason. i feel really sorry for 99.99999% of muslims who aren't like this, because they know and we know, most people are going to see it as just a tiny few.

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Originally Posted by BeanEgg

As a Christian, I still believe Islam is a religion of peace.

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I'm not so sure the victims of terrorism and honour killings, the rape victims, fornicators, gays and converts, persecuted in the name of god, would agree.

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Originally Posted by ifuseekamy

I'm not so sure the victims of terrorism and honour killings, the rape victims, fornicators, gays and converts, persecuted in the name of god, would agree.

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all religions are nutty though tbh. it's not like there hasn't been a war over christianity. or people killed by christians. the crusades anyone?