Playstation 3 fully hacked.

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Originally Posted by Oleh

as many members have said, once sony decided to declare what the members call "war on hacking" via the removal of otheros, they took it as a challenge, Now sony are pissed. And everybody boasted that ps3 security was top notch.. when xbox jtags came out what happened? the security was already in place and nothing more than an automated ban fixes that now. as with all of sonys attempts at security, it is laughable.

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Stop bringing xbox fanboyness into the thread. This has nothing to do with xbox, and if you really want to go there then know the xbox was first hacked within months of release, but it took hackers 3 years before making any break throughs whatsoever when attempting to hack the ps3.

Sony should just hire this guy in order to improve security, lol.

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Originally Posted by dbgtz

Sony should just hire this guy in order to improve security, lol.

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It was a whole team of people, and the security of the ps3 can't be brought back under control because the keys were already exposed to the internet. If you look on warez sites for example there are already pirated copies of games and homebrews you can download with instructions on how to install them.

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Originally Posted by Oleh

as many members have said, once sony decided to declare what the members call "war on hacking" via the removal of otheros, they took it as a challenge, Now sony are pissed. And everybody boasted that ps3 security was top notch.. when xbox jtags came out what happened? the security was already in place and nothing more than an automated ban fixes that now. as with all of sonys attempts at security, it is laughable.

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Wait a second, this thread just got stupid.

YOU are calling SONY'S security laughable? Let me just remind you how long it took to break the PS3 security Sony had in place? What was it? 4 years? Microsoft's security on the 360 took a couple of months at most.

Well done in making yourself look a bit of a fool.

your saying im calling myself a fool, but as geohot himself has said, this hack is not fixable with a mere update, this is only fixable by hardware or if the key they use to sign everything is changed, and neither is plausible. and if you was to notice, the xbox jtag came out in july 2009, 4 and a bit years after release. a dvd firmware modification is not a major security flaw unlike both ps3 jb and 360 jb but unlike the 360 jtag, the ps3 jb is not fixable.

Well played kind sir :D

and Dan, i was merely comparing the 2's security.

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Originally Posted by Oleh

your saying im calling myself a fool, but as geohot himself has said, this hack is not fixable with a mere update, this is only fixable by hardware or if the key they use to sign everything is changed, and neither is plausible. and if you was to notice, the xbox jtag came out in july 2009, 4 and a bit years after release. a dvd firmware modification is not a major security flaw unlike both ps3 jb and 360 jb but unlike the 360 jtag, the ps3 jb is not fixable.

Well played kind sir :D

and Dan, i was merely comparing the 2's security.

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I think actually, in this case, a DVD firmware modification is a fairly large flaw.

Explain? as the only flaw there is that they left the port on the drive so you could actually modify the firmware, but with every dvd drive, that is there. all im saying is, next time sony could probably increase security so that you cant merely use a usb to hack the entire system as with little to no checks on what firmware your installing, there are checks of what your doing on your ps3 but easily worked around.

You can refer to me as a xbox fanboy all you like, it still wont change the fact the ps3 has been jailbroke, nothing bad as it opens it up to an entire new audience

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Originally Posted by Stuto

It was a whole team of people, and the security of the ps3 can't be brought back under control because the keys were already exposed to the internet. If you look on warez sites for example there are already pirated copies of games and homebrews you can download with instructions on how to install them.

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Yeah but you wouldn't really need them all necessarily? I'm talking PS4 btw.

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Originally Posted by Oleh

Explain? as the only flaw there is that they left the port on the drive so you could actually modify the firmware, but with every dvd drive, that is there. all im saying is, next time sony could probably increase security so that you cant merely use a usb to hack the entire system as with little to no checks on what firmware your installing, there are checks of what your doing on your ps3 but easily worked around.

You can refer to me as a xbox fanboy all you like, it still wont change the fact the ps3 has been jailbroke, nothing bad as it opens it up to an entire new audience

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Well, if those jtags are there on every DVD drive (and CD drive... and BluRay drive...) it's funny they couldn't use such an easy hack on the PS3. Sony had a lot of security on the PS3 and the only big downfall was when Geohot managed to find the root encryption key (which, as I say, still took 4 years to do).

And yes Sony could do better, but Microsoft could do A LOT better, but with anything in the world, human creations will have flaws.

EDIT: in fact why did you start this at all? This is in the SONY forum and has nothing to do with Microsoft and their console.

i didnt start it, i believe it was you or stuto, i merely was stating that sony could take a leaf from mincrosofts book on pre-planned security.

and a jtag isnt on a dvd drive, dvd drive is just for copied games. i believe a jtag is in the NAND. and yes microsoft can do 300% better but im only refering to the security measures not the console. would this "argument" happen if we were in a windows forum talking about linux's security?