Rule A5: Continued

I'd like to point out the trading Habbo furniture for any non-Habbo goods is probably in violation of Habbo T&Cs (Not Habbo Way) since they probably have something about it remaining the property of Sulake.

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* violate the contractual, personal, intellectual property or other rights of any party, or promote or constitute illegal activity;

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You have no property interest in Habbo® Credits, Premium Subscriptions, your avatar, virtual items (e.g., Habbo® Furni or rares), which remain the exclusive property of Sulake subject only to your limited, non-transferable revocable license to use such for in-game play subject to these Terms and Conditions of Sale and the Terms of Use.

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It violates Habbo T&Cs, this should end.. now.

Edit2: And concerning the other thread being locked, I thought I had raised the issue of closing threads management disagree with. The reasoning then did not seem valid at all.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

I'd like to point out the trading Habbo furniture for any non-Habbo goods is probably in violation of Habbo T&Cs (Not Habbo Way) since they probably have something about it remaining the property of Sulake.

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It violates Habbo T&Cs, this should end.. now.

Edit2: And concerning the other thread being locked, I thought I had raised the issue of closing threads management disagree with. The reasoning then did not seem valid at all.

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Habbo® Credits, and Premium Subscriptions have no monetary value, are non-refundable and cannot be used to purchase or use products or services other than in-game play offered by Sulake (e.g., Habbo® Furni (defined below) or Habbo® Games).

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Would that apply too?

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Originally Posted by Wiizzz

Would that apply too?

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Yes that would.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

I'd like to point out the trading Habbo furniture for any non-Habbo goods is probably in violation of Habbo T&Cs (Not Habbo Way) since they probably have something about it remaining the property of Sulake.

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It violates Habbo T&Cs, this should end.. now.

Edit2: And concerning the other thread being locked, I thought I had raised the issue of closing threads management disagree with. The reasoning then did not seem valid at all.

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* violate the contractual, personal, intellectual property or other rights of any party, or promote or constitute illegal activity; You have no property interest in Habbo® Credits, Premium Subscriptions, your avatar, virtual items (e.g., Habbo® Furni or rares), which remain the exclusive property of Sulake subject only to your limited, non-transferable revocable license to use such for in-game play subject to these Terms and Conditions of Sale and the Terms of Use.

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Okay to violate the intellectual property would be to breach their copyright without permission. This doesn't happen. To have no property interest just means they retain the right of beneficial ownership of the items and as a habbo member you have a licence to use them in the game of habbo. This is quite common for virtual games. You could not possibly play with the items outside of the game anyway. Every member of Habbo has a licence to play with them so I don't see any bar on trading just that your licence to play is non-transferable. This makes sense as account trading/selling is not allowed and neither is trading for cash. Nothing I can see backs up your argument that you cannot trade habbo for RS or vice versa. The rules are quite clear on Runescape now as Wiizz pointed out. If it was I am sure Habbo would be in contact about it.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

Okay to violate the intellectual property would be to breach their copyright without permission. This doesn't happen. To have no property interest just means they retain the right of beneficial ownership of the items and as a habbo member you have a licence to use them in the game of habbo. This is quite common for virtual games. You could not possibly play with the items outside of the game anyway. Every member of Habbo has a licence to play with them so I don't see any bar on trading just that your licence to play is non-transferable. This makes sense as account trading/selling is not allowed and neither is trading for cash. Nothing I can see backs up your argument that you cannot trade habbo for RS or vice versa. The rules are quite clear on Runescape now as Wiizz pointed out. If it was I am sure Habbo would be in contact about it.

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Because if it remain property of Sulake then you don't have the permission to trade it for other online goods outside of the habbo system.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention and it seems our rules will need to be changed slightly now to fit the RuneScape ones. Obviously we won't be changing rule A5 but we'll be changing the rules for the RuneScape trading forum.

As for the comments regarding Habbo, Sulake staff are frequent visitors to the forum and I haven't heard of any complaints. Should they have any complaints then I am sure they will contact us.

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Originally Posted by Nicola

Thanks for bringing this to our attention and it seems our rules will need to be changed slightly now to fit the RuneScape ones. Obviously we won't be changing rule A5 but we'll be changing the rules for the RuneScape trading forum.

As for the comments regarding Habbo, Sulake staff are frequent visitors to the forum and I haven't heard of any complaints. Should they have any complaints then I am sure they will contact us.

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They may not be aware it occurs, I wouldn't expect Redtiz to spend the little time she has snooping around the runescape section of all places.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

They may not be aware it occurs, I wouldn't expect Redtiz to spend the little time she has snooping around the runescape section of all places.

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Redtiz has nothing to do with fansites, for as long as Habbo have had a fansite way they have made sure it is stuck to, we know this because if there's something wrong they are on our backs instantly.

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They may not be aware it occurs, I wouldn't expect Redtiz to spend the little time she has snooping around the runescape section of all places.

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She gets 1-2 hours per week and that's probably not even enough to answer all PMs and look into all the unfair bans.

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Originally Posted by Wiizzz

She gets 1-2 hours per week and that's probably not even enough to answer all PMs and look into all the unfair bans.

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She was telling me the other day she doesn't get many PMs and asking if she's ok to direct people here who need a quick question answering, not that it's relevant to sulake checking up on us - like I said Redtiz isn't responsible for fansites.