The Queen & Ireland

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Answer the question, its a simple yes or no.



The thread was killed when Gerry Adams was mentioned as though his opinion deserves any respect.

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Oh well I tried. *frustrated* I don't have to answer any question just because you have posed one you know. It's called freedom of expression and freedom of speech so feel free to ignore me.

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I do however object to the idea that what Gerry Adams says or thinks holds any weight or that he shouldn't be criticised on this forum - if you or Eoin wish to quote Gerry Adams then everytime you do so I will bring up his disgusting history and expose him for the man he really is.

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The thread was killed when Gerry Adams was mentioned as though his opinion deserves any respect.

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Jesus Christ. You always blow what i say out of proportion and over exagerate what i say. I only quoted what he said to show the change in the mindset of people who used to be totaly against the British monarchy. I honestly don't see what's wrong with that. You are the only one that's interpretting my post in this way.

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would you then tell the families of the victims of 9/11, to quote a vapid phrase, 'look forwards and not backwards'? I would love to see the faces of the victims families if you suggested that to their faces, so just because its Northern Ireland being talked about here don't dismiss me as some dweller on the past.

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A bit confused here. You don't think these people should 'look forwards and not backwards', yet you have made it clear before that you want the Irish to do so with regards to the mistreatment and killings of many more Irish from the years of British rule?

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Originally Posted by Catz

Oh well I tried. *frustrated* I don't have to answer any question just because you have posed one you know. It's called freedom of expression and freedom of speech so feel free to ignore me.

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Please don't you give me lectures on free speech and expression when you don't believe in it yourself.

But anyway back onto the topic at hand...is it the fact that you won't answer my question because you are embarassed by the fact that you think terrorists/killers in government are acceptable on British soil? why is it that we should all 'move forwards and stop looking backwards' concerning Gerry Adams, the IRA, Sinn Fein and Unionist terror groups but not the same concerning Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda? So here is the question again;

Could you explain what makes Gerry Adams any better than Osama Bin Laden because I am genuinely interested to know and would you tell the families of the victims of 9/11 and 7/7 to 'move forwards and stop looking backwards' in justifying Osama Bin Laden being appointed to the Afghan government?

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Originally Posted by Eoin247

Jesus Christ. You always blow what i say out of proportion and over exagerate what i say. I only quoted what he said to show the change in the mindset of people who used to be totaly against the British monarchy. I honestly don't see what's wrong with that. You are the only one that's interpretting my post in this way.

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Well we'll see about that depending on your reply to the question I pose below.

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Originally Posted by Eoin247

A bit confused here. You don't think these people should 'look forwards and not backwards', yet you have made it clear before that you want the Irish to do so with regards to the mistreatment and killings of many more Irish from the years of British rule?

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The difference is that those people are dead my friend who committed those crimes decades and hundreds of years ago, therefore they cannot be tried for their crimes - the IRA, Gerry Adams, those in Sinn Fein and the Unionist terrorist groups are not only still alive, they are in government and they can be brought to justice rather than treating them as respectable statesmen.

So my question to you is, should those who appear to have committed crimes be tried for their crimes and removed from NI government? (including Gerry Adams) - if the response to this is no, then it seems quite clear to me that you sympathise with Gerry Adams and rightly believe that his actions have earned him a place above the law of the land.

If yes, then we are in complete agreement.

agreed richie serously sick of people trying to bring the past back. . . theres this pure umm (horrible girl) in my class n she was shouting all this sectarian crap about it all -.- i felt like getting someone to slap her or at least chuck something at her urghhhh. . . .

also i loved lizzies speech wat a wee legend =] hope she comes again

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Well we'll see about that depending on your reply to the question I pose below.

The difference is that those people are dead my friend who committed those crimes decades and hundreds of years ago, therefore they cannot be tried for their crimes - the IRA, Gerry Adams, those in Sinn Fein and the Unionist terrorist groups are not only still alive, they are in government and they can be brought to justice rather than treating them as respectable statesmen.

So my question to you is, should those who appear to have committed crimes be tried for their crimes and removed from NI government? (including Gerry Adams) - if the response to this is no, then it seems quite clear to me that you sympathise with Gerry Adams and rightly believe that his actions have earned him a place above the law of the land.

If yes, then we are in complete agreement.

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Firstly Gerry Adams isn't in the NI government. In fact, he was recently elected as a TD south of the border. I believe that people must be punished for their crimes and i make no exception for anybody (including Gerry Adams).

But on the other hand, if there wasn't this power sharing in the north there wouldn't be this level of peace that there is now currently in the north.