al-Qaeda seizes village that still speaks the ancient language of Christ

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I do not see one point in your post that makes any sense, it appears to me that you are seriously nitpicking. In any case, take the example of the man who you say might have been verbally abused (because those rebels/al-Qaeda are just kitty cats aren't they?) - who on earth as a soldier would make it their mission to verbally abuse somebody of another religion in a supposed non-religious war?

You are closing your eyes here to what the Syrian war is - it's heavily influenced by religion, of which you are correct - the Christians are a very small part of it. But it's telling that the Christians, Druze and Alawites all are hoping for an Assad victory. And why? because the Assad Government has protected religious minorities over the years against the muslim majority .... just take a look at the attacks in Egypt on thr Coptic Christian Church.

So to conclude that, yes it is important that the fact Islamic fighters have entered a Chrisitian village and are purposely intimidating the local Christian population - just as it would be a massive story if Christian US troops entered an Iraqi city and started firing at the Cresent over the mosque and desecrating the local mosque whilst telling the locals to convert.

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I pretty much quoted from the entire article at this stage. I'm hardly nitpicking. If you can't see my point from any of the quotes I explained, then ( while you know a lot about politics) you don't know much about journalistic/writing techniques. Can you not see how much this article insinuates? Reading it fact for fact (taking a pro government witness as fact in this case), nothing truly terrible has happened to any of these Christians.

For the last time. The only thing I have a problem with is the article itself. And after going through the article in detail in my last post to point out its problems, I'm not the only one who can see the article for what it is.

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Originally Posted by Marketing

I apologise, Dan. The way that post was written made it appear you were complaining that they weren't conforming with Western values which is wrong (I should have known better from a guy like yourself!) May I ask exactly what you study at University? Got to say, I am going to miss having those sort of debates :(

In fairness, the history of Christianity is not exactly glorious! I'm yet to meet an Islamic follower who is an extremist nut case, but you never know what the future holds :L I agree that Islamic culture should not be imposed on you, but I guess having been brought up away from cities I've never experienced this (my Islamic experiences being in other countries).

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I study Philosophy, Politics and Economics. :) Surprisingly with the politics, which is probably the one I enjoy least out of the three, I expected everyone to be mouthy in the class yet they rarely ever said anything - that's why I constantly provoked them into debating me. I once had (and you won't believe this) a left winger in the class tell me that we shouldn't have any borders and that everybody should be able to come here... to which I replied something along the lines that i'd left that stand as a statement without any further comment. :P

Anddddd it's true on Christianity, sure. But we're talking about the modern day, and Christianity does not have the problems that Islam has by any stretch of the imagination. The history of Islam afterall is based on relentless conquest.

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Originally Posted by Eoin247

I pretty much quoted from the entire article at this stage. I'm hardly nitpicking. If you can't see my point from any of the quotes I explained, then ( while you know a lot about politics) you don't know much about journalistic/writing techniques. Can you not see how much this article insinuates? Reading it fact for fact (taking a pro government witness as fact in this case), nothing truly terrible has happened to any of these Christians.

For the last time. The only thing I have a problem with is the article itself. And after going through the article in detail in my last post to point out its problems, I'm not the only one who can see the article for what it is.

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Nobody claims it's the worst thing in the world, I just think in every post here you've been grasping at straws as to not seem offensive or critical of Islam - I doubt we would ever see such a reaction from you concerning the Catholic Church or CoE.

But hey.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I study Philosophy, Politics and Economics. :) Surprisingly with the politics, which is probably the one I enjoy least out of the three, I expected everyone to be mouthy in the class yet they rarely ever said anything - that's why I constantly provoked them into debating me. I once had (and you won't believe this) a left winger in the class tell me that we shouldn't have any borders and that everybody should be able to come here... to which I replied something along the lines that i'd left that stand as a statement without any further comment. :P

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Embarrassingly, I can believe you. In my AS/A Level class we had a couple of nutters, one was obsessed with communism, and other had this daft idea that we should all be scared of China. Furthermore, in another class there was this CHINESE girl that couldn't work out why she couldn't find China.. whilst looking at a map of Europe. This is further escalated by another who thought Brazil was connected to Spain |-) Hate subjects where there are no real viewpoints to argue :L

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

But why are all the people on this forum who backed Obama in 2008 and 2012 silent?

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Ultimately there is a lot of disappointment over Obama's actions, and certainly most people would have hoped for better. However it's important to realise that Obama had support not necessarily because he's the best man for the job, but because both John McCain and Mitt Romney were just ridiculously inappropriate. We certainly shouldn't kid ourselves that their foreign policy would be any better.

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I once had (and you won't believe this) a left winger in the class tell me that we shouldn't have any borders and that everybody should be able to come here... to which I replied something along the lines that i'd left that stand as a statement without any further comment. :P

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It's not an entirely absurd thought, the Schengen area seems to be doing pretty well.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

Ultimately there is a lot of disappointment over Obama's actions, and certainly most people would have hoped for better. However it's important to realise that Obama had support not necessarily because he's the best man for the job, but because both John McCain and Mitt Romney were just ridiculously inappropriate. We certainly shouldn't kid ourselves that their foreign policy would be any better.

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Oh no i'm not claiming they'd be any better - i'm just asking why they aren't stepping in any criticising him whereas we know if McCain or Romney had won, the same people would now be posting 'IF ONLY OBAMA HAD WON!!!!!!' sigh.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

It's not an entirely absurd thought, the Schengen area seems to be doing pretty well.

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The people in German and French cities which have been completely taken over will disagree with you on that, as will the people of Boston in this country, the original inhabitants of Tower Hamlets, areas of Leister, London, Birmingham and so on and so on.

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'IF ONLY OBAMA HAD WON!!!!!!' sigh.

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Well it is all about playing the odds, the most likely candidate not to do this would have been Obama.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

Well it is all about playing the odds, the most likely candidate not to do this would have been Obama.

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From his rhetoric, not from his records.