House of Commons votes against ALL Brexit options - AGAIN

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Originally Posted by Saurav

State your question clearly and I will happily answer.



It is not just FTSE 100 companies who lose money "betting on currency fluctuations". Many businesses who import (which a large percentage of businesses do) are affected by currency fluctuations. It leads to increased prices and who pays at the end of the day? The public.

Yes, they were gullible idiots who believed everything they heard people like Boris etc say rather than doing their own research or looking at the situation realistically.

Do I like the Withdrawl Agreement? No, as I do not like the backstop. But I understand why it is there and there is no other solution if we want a hard brexit. There is literally no good solution due to the fact we have a land border with a EU member and we do not want a hard border.

If Parliament cannot agree on any alternatives then yes put it to the public, it is them who will be affected by the result (and it is a major change which will affect several generations) so let them decide it.

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Yes.... hence let the public decide if the fools we elected cannot decide.

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totally agree to your reply to me. parliament is CLEARLY still voting across party lines. if they won't let us vote on brexit options (as much as i'd like us to remain i'd even accept revoke article 50 NOT being on the ballot) then at LEAST let us vote on mps

I mean surely that is inevitable now??? It's at a total total deadlock????

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Originally Posted by lawrawrrr

totally agree to your reply to me. parliament is CLEARLY still voting across party lines. if they won't let us vote on brexit options (as much as i'd like us to remain i'd even accept revoke article 50 NOT being on the ballot) then at LEAST let us vote on mps

I mean surely that is inevitable now??? It's at a total total deadlock????

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If it goes to a public vote and public vote for a "No Deal Brexit" then I will accept it despite disagreeing with it as that is the democracy we live in. If our elected officials are unable to making a decision on such a significant matter then it is best to let the public decide. But problem is they do not like to give power back.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Do I like the Withdrawl Agreement? No, as I do not like the backstop. But I understand why it is there and there is no other solution if we want a hard brexit. There is literally no good solution due to the fact we have a land border with a EU member and we do not want a hard border.

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So you're advocating, as per EU's her Withdrawal Agreement -

• Handing the EU a whopping £39bn in exchange for nothing, all of which business will pay in taxation.
• Handing the EU 1/4 of our country, including the businesses in it and those which sell/buy products there.
• Allowing the EU to make regulations forever for our country, all of which we'll have no say in but which will effect every business.
• Allowing the EU to unilaterally control our tariffs, effecting all of our business, without even a say.

And then you say to me you don't want No Deal because of some "uncertainty". It doesn't add up mate.

The alternative to this is that we could be out, in 8 days time, on WTO rules - free to change any tariff/regulation/business law we wanted.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

If it goes to a public vote and public vote for a "No Deal Brexit" then I will accept it despite disagreeing with it as that is the democracy we live in. If our elected officials are unable to making a decision on such a significant matter then it is best to let the public decide. But problem is they do not like to give power back.

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OHHHH you'll respect it this time will you?

And if you win, do you expect us to accept the outcome this time? Or do we get another go as well?

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Originally Posted by Saurav

State your question clearly and I will happily answer.

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

What deal would you go for, out of interest? Considering the fact that the EU won't budge at all on their stance and so the only option for a deal is to give them everything they want

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What could be clearer? The only options deal-wise are "none at all" and work things out afterwards or "do everything the EU demands" - which one is best for the UK?

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Originally Posted by Saurav

If Parliament cannot agree on any alternatives then yes put it to the public, it is them who will be affected by the result (and it is a major change which will affect several generations) so let them decide it.

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We did decide.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

let the public decide if the fools we elected cannot decide.

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Originally Posted by followed directly by

if people continue to make comments without fully understanding the situation or how what they are saying effects the country and the economy then yes they are ignorant and in some cases stupid. It is better they not speak rather than speaking without know what they are truly talking about.

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So... do you think the public should choose things, or is everyone who doesn't agree with you best off not speaking and having no opinion?

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

So you're advocating, as per EU's her Withdrawal Agreement -

• Handing the EU a whopping £39bn in exchange for nothing, all of which business will pay in taxation.
• Handing the EU 1/4 of our country, including the businesses in it and those which sell/buy products there.
• Allowing the EU to make regulations forever for our country, all of which we'll have no say in but which will effect every business.
• Allowing the EU to unilaterally control our tariffs, effecting all of our business, without even a say.

And then you say to me you don't want No Deal because of some "uncertainty". It doesn't add up mate.

The alternative to this is that we could be out, in 8 days time, on WTO rules - free to change any tariff/regulation/business law we wanted.

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Do you even read my post before posting? I said I do NOT like the Withdrawl agreement.
This is what I mean, ignorance.

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

What could be clearer? The only options deal-wise are "none at all" and work things out afterwards or "do everything the EU demands" - which one is best for the UK?



We did decide.





So... do you think the public should choose things, or is everyone who doesn't agree with you best off not speaking and having no opinion?

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If you read my replies properly, you will see that I have already answered all of the points you have raised here.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Do you even read my post before posting? I said I do NOT like the Withdrawl agreement.
This is what I mean, ignorance.

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If you do not like the Withdrawal Agreement then the alternative is No Deal.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

If you read my replies properly, you will see that I have already answered all of the points you have raised here.

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No, no you haven't. You haven't answered my question at all, you've deflected it and put it on other people. It's really really extremely simple:
of the two options (AND YES I AM AWARE YOU DO NOT LIKE EITHER, THAT WAS NOT THE QUESTION), which do you think is best for the UK?

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

If you do not like the Withdrawal Agreement then the alternative is No Deal.

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See below.

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

No, no you haven't. You haven't answered my question at all, you've deflected it and put it on other people. It's really really extremely simple:
of the two options (AND YES I AM AWARE YOU DO NOT LIKE EITHER, THAT WAS NOT THE QUESTION), which do you think is best for the UK?

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Neither option is good for the economy. Hence let the public decide if they want the Withdrawl Agreement, No Deal Brexit or Stay in EU.

Even if we have No Deal brexit, tell me how we will resolve the Ireland/NI border issue? The country wants a open border, but we do not want a customs union. You can't always have the best of both situations, in some cases like this it does not exist.

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