Racism

hello thomas!!!!!


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racism is bad.




i dnt like onions but i still eat dem btw.

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Originally Posted by Xander

There is a difference between being jippy by sarcasm and me disagreeing with your opinion. I am criticising it because of morals, ones which you seem to lack on the subject of someone's race, which is pretty appauling. Yeah you joke as in stereotype but it sure is DIFFERENT to saying something racist, and even I know your not always 'joking' in your racist comments. And to call me patronising is a laugh, seeing as your pretty patronising:rolleyes:
You still never replied fully to my comment on how you can mock someone's skin colour and then go and be friends with 1 of the people who have that skin colour/race. That I don't understand atall. It's like saying you don't like onions yet you eat a part of an onion....you get me analogy.

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Wow, you really are good at trying to make people look an idiot. You say these things as if I don't know them (In reference to your opening statement).
"What are your honest thoughts on Racism? Please be truthful and if your racist with mates say and with your thoughts on it."
I gave you my honest thoughts on Racism. I said I was racist with my mates.
My morals differ to yours, sue me for being brought up in a racist family. I don't lack the morals, they just differ to yours, which you can't seem to accept people having a different moral about it.
Stereotyping someone has black, when they're really half-cast, or well tanned; Like I did with you. Yeah, I may not always be joking, but I admit these things. Like I admit I am patronising too, I've learnt that sort of stuff about myself.
How? Well, because you will never see 2 people with exactly the same credentials as another person. Sometimes you may hear stuff about 1 person from another race who burnt down the local .. church, but you are friends with another person from the same race, am I supposed to go straight up to this person who burnt the church and say "oh you alright buddy, I heard what you did and I think you're well brave", or should I be truthful and go up to him and ask "Why did you burn down the church? Have the people who use it offend you? It's people like you who are giving a bad representation to your race." (maybe not exactly like that..)

Its like battle of the users lmao.

Anyway,
I suppose people can't be told off for being racist if they were brought up that way. But i still feel strong about people not being racist as it is a crud thing. When you say it with an intention to hurt the other person. If its joking around, and the person doesnt mind then its not that bad.

I dont judge. Cant be politically correct all the time, cant pretend that certain stereotypes are untrue.

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Originally Posted by smiddy1234

Honestly - Yes I am a racist. Why should I try to hide that fact?

But, sometimes you can meet some great people of a different race - and to those people I am not racist.

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yeah i guess i'm the same.

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Originally Posted by paul♥

i think its un acceptble tbh

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& lol paul u talk the most crap.

i think racism is destroying the comunity peaople who are racists should just xcept othere people for who they are
and let them be who they are

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Originally Posted by smiddy1234

Well, it means sometimes I pre-judge people of a different race. But if I get talking to them, I may be plesantly surprised and find out they're a decent person who I shouldn't of pre-judged.

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ooer. i guess everyone does that to an extent. but i dont make judgement on whether they're gonna be decent or not based on their race..

Yes I am racist.

I dont want to kill people of other races or actually swear at their face.

But I do like to say racist jokes with my friends and stereotype races in jokes.

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Originally Posted by Allan♥

I walk into my local shop ran by an 'asian' and she shouts abuse at me like "******" "*****" for no reason...

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That happened to me & my mates too on our way down to Cardiff...Was in the West Brom area of Brum and went into this shop and they 2 asian women behind the counter was pure giving us dirty looks. So we got stuff we needed and went out, looked back in the window and theres to cheeky mares spraying air freshener and wiping the shelves we had touched and mopping the floor. So gave them a bit of abuse then went, then next thing we were getting followed round by this group of asian men but they went when we got back to the pub.

I'm not racist. My neices are half jamaican.

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Originally Posted by umstrang

i think racism is destroying the comunity peaople who are racists should just xcept othere people for who they are
and let them be who they are

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Why not accept racists for who they are? Theyre people too.

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Originally Posted by RedStratocas

Why not accept racists for who they are? Theyre people too.

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because they can affect the people they are racist against.
if they werent really bothering anyone, then you dont need to bother them.
but a lot of racists arent docile.

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Originally Posted by Pain

because they can affect the people they are racist against.
if they werent really bothering anyone, then you dont need to bother them.
but a lot of racists arent docile.

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But cant people who are anti-racist affect racists? hmmmm

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Originally Posted by RedStratocas

But cant people who are anti-racist affect racists? hmmmm

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yes, they can.
BUT its their fault isnt it? can a person control his/her skin color? no.
People choose to be racist, so they can control it.
if they werent racist, they wouldnt be affected.
while the people being bothered by racism have no choice.

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Originally Posted by Pain

yes, they can.
BUT its their fault isnt it? can a person control his/her skin color? no.
People choose to be racist, so they can control it.
if they werent racist, they wouldnt be affected.
while the people being bothered by racism have no choice.

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Not all racism is about skin color. Most racist people around today really dont care about your skin color, but they care about if you act like your skin color. Like a racist person can respect a black person if he is someone they can like, or if theyre like a white person. But the racism occurs when they cant tolerate black culture. Which technically, they can control.

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Originally Posted by RedStratocas

Not all racism is about skin color. Most racist people around today really dont care about your skin color, but they care about if you act like your skin color. Like a racist person can respect a black person if he is someone they can like, or if theyre like a white person. But the racism occurs when they cant tolerate black culture. Which technically, they can control.

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that's not racism.
that's stereotyping.

they're slightly different:
racism is discrimination because of race, usually the superiority of one over another
stereotyping is generalizing a group of people, usually resulting in less interaction with that group

Racism is bad. We all know that.

But everyone (ok almost everyone) can find themself laughing at a racist joke.

Racist jokes are funny because they dont really directly hurt the person of the race. It is just jokes based on common stereotypes of the race. They can be offensice but for the most part they can be really funny.

im racist against racists.
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I think truly hatefull racism is bad. Like groups getting together to kill other races.

But as I posted before. A little racims doesnt have to be bad.

I CAN SMELLLLLLL............

SUMMIN RLY STRONG N IT AINT MA NEXT DOOR NEIGBROUGHS CURRY POWDA!

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Originally Posted by paul♥

I CAN SMELLLLLLL............

SUMMIN RLY STRONG N IT AINT MA NEXT DOOR NEIGBROUGHS CURRY POWDA!

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Thank god there's no other type's of people in my neighbourhood. yet :rolleyes:.
that made me laugh paul!


I don't agree with racism nor do I think it's accepted or acceptable, but it's like social drinkers? Most people have some banter with some friends when it's goin' really. As i've said, it only seems as if white's are getting persecuted for racism when it's far from JUST whites?

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Originally Posted by Seduce

Thank god there's no other type's of people in my neighbourhood. yet :rolleyes:.
that made me laugh paul!


I don't agree with racism nor do I think it's accepted or acceptable, but it's like social drinkers? Most people have some banter with some friends when it's goin' really. As i've said, it only seems as if white's are getting persecuted for racism when it's far from JUST whites?

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Exactly

Just walking down the roads of Middlesbrough I get called things like: White honkey ECT.

I think it’s damn right out of order and I think we should inform the authorities tbh.

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I also think it’s out of order that they move to an innocent city and have like 5-10 kids each then move on to a new wife. Within a few years of them living there they have took offer the place and it looks like south Africa or something.

If I didn’t know better I would say that there king or w/e has told them to so they can go to war with us in 20 years and out numbers us then rule the world.

^^ True story tbh.

YES BRB LEMME GO TELL DEM. They wouldn't do anything, because sadly you forget that most of the time things are biased and they are against white's in our 'own' country. You often find it'd be from someone who's been in our country shorter than you can say I'VECAMEFROMAFGHANISTANATTACHEDTOAFRIKKINGTRAINAND THROUGHDOVER!

If we were to complain, we'd get ignored comparing to what an asian or negro would because the high would say "No-voter's want us to help the minorities".

You often find that our OWN taxpayer's money (well parents :rolleyes:) is going into someone's that doesn't deserve it? or funding something such as free driving lessons for immigrants BUT not any hard done-by citizens? that was in england two years ago.

half of that wouldn't make sense.

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Originally Posted by Xander

What are your honest thoughts on Racism? Please be truthful and if your racist with mates say and with your thoughts on it.

In my opinion I hate it and think it is pretty disgraceful, picking on someone because of their colour of skin which they cannot help "/ I never joke about racism with my mates because I just don't think racism is right atall.

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I just totally agree with what you have said. The other night some idiots
were outside the Kebab place we go to with a megaphone shouting racist chants. They are really nice people just earning a living like anybody else.

Right, i am not racist, i do not hate people BECAUSE there a different race.

In some cases, yes, i do hate people who are a different race but its not because the colour of there skin or the shape of there eyes.
For instance, i have a big problem with a large group of the sarmarlian men living in cardiff because they treat women disgracefully, yes it may be there religion or whatever but in my oponion they have no right to treat women like objects.
If i was to walk past a sarmarlian man in cardiff 3 out of 4 times they would make some sort of comment, pinch my bum etc.
They seem to think that just because British women wear more revealing clothes and make up etc it means they want that sort of attention. (They make there women wear the full letterbox lady robes)
Im sure there are some sarmarlian men/boys out there who arnt like this but in my experience, the majority are jerks.

If you think thats racism then whatever but tbh, i dont hate them for who they are, where there from. I hate them for the way they treat others.

I understand what you mean Bef, you don't hate them you hate their culture that they stand for, when they should adapt to our countrie's law's and culture's?

I'd truthfully stamp on their family jewel's if i was a girl and they did that to me, and set alight to their hair. HEAD HAIR.

I dislike cultures and minorities that come and 'invade' our country and disrespect it, and don't adapt? If we go visit a mosque say in isreal, we have to remove our shoes and women cover up. But when say pakistani's come to our country they don't adapt for us?

sorry kinda got diverted there.
I admit i'm racist, but normall only provoked. Like the freaky smelly people who run my local shop. Sound's stereotypical... the women swears at me and shouts racist taunts?

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Originally Posted by BL!NKEY

I think truly hatefull racism is bad. Like groups getting together to kill other races.

But as I posted before. A little racims doesnt have to be bad.

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Exactly.

As long as you dont act on your racism, it isnt really bad.

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Originally Posted by kassandra

im not racist. i do joke about it with my friends though...



lol ages ago you told me on msn that you did with your friends

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lmaooo!!!

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Originally Posted by smiddy1234

Honestly - Yes I am a racist. Why should I try to hide that fact?

But, sometimes you can meet some great people of a different race - and to those people I am not racist.

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Same as Tom reallyyy.
I make the odd racist joke, but i do have muslim and halfcast friends, who i have nothing against.
So I can be kind of racist, but I'd never act on it, and I wouldn't judge a single person by their race.

When I'm racist it's usually with friends or family because my family are all pretty racist, pretty much everyone on this island is.
When you're on an island where like 99% of the people are white, you can't really expect people not to be making racist jokes and stuff.

I don't think anythings wrong with racism when it's done jokingly though, it's only a real problem when people act on it.

And Craig wth, you make a thread asking for peoples honest opinions, then practically tell them their opinions are wrong?
You should accept that people have differemt views on things.

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Originally Posted by smiddy1234

Wow, you really are good at trying to make people look an idiot. You say these things as if I don't know them (In reference to your opening statement).
"What are your honest thoughts on Racism? Please be truthful and if your racist with mates say and with your thoughts on it."
I gave you my honest thoughts on Racism. I said I was racist with my mates.
My morals differ to yours, sue me for being brought up in a racist family. I don't lack the morals, they just differ to yours, which you can't seem to accept people having a different moral about it.
Stereotyping someone has black, when they're really half-cast, or well tanned; Like I did with you. Yeah, I may not always be joking, but I admit these things. Like I admit I am patronising too, I've learnt that sort of stuff about myself.
How? Well, because you will never see 2 people with exactly the same credentials as another person. Sometimes you may hear stuff about 1 person from another race who burnt down the local .. church, but you are friends with another person from the same race, am I supposed to go straight up to this person who burnt the church and say "oh you alright buddy, I heard what you did and I think you're well brave", or should I be truthful and go up to him and ask "Why did you burn down the church? Have the people who use it offend you? It's people like you who are giving a bad representation to your race." (maybe not exactly like that..)

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Trying to make people an idiot? You called me jippy yet I was just trying to find out your motive for racism etc. Who said my family isn't racist? Well none of them are actually but just because my family aren't racist doesn't mean I have to not be. I can accept different morals but on a big scale like this how can they differ? Racism is racism, if your going to be racist your going to lack in morals in this scenario, yours aren't different you just seem to lack them. I can accept people having other opinions yet I will argue my opinion against it and try and rationalise their opinion to see if they think differently. In this example of a church you shouldn't greet him but you should ask him why he did it, but just because he might be a different race doesn't mean you need to be racist about it "/ So you can be NOT racist and still ask them the question, just because they did something bad doesn't mean you should be racist cos there is a hell of alot of people who are the same race as other people and you wouldn't be racist to them about it. You should say, as you said 'You are giving a bad reputation to your race', but equally white people such as Ian Huntley, Pete Doherty etc are giving a bad name to white people, so I don't see what's different just because they are a different colour cos all races have bad/evil people in them.

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Originally Posted by Pain

ooer. i guess everyone does that to an extent. but i dont make judgement on whether they're gonna be decent or not based on their race..

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Exactly, that's how it should be done.

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Originally Posted by RedStratocas

Why not accept racists for who they are? Theyre people too.

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Yes they are people but thats like saying 'Why not accept murders for who they are' because some racists take it as far as killing people of a different race.

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Originally Posted by Seduce

Thank god there's no other type's of people in my neighbourhood. yet :rolleyes:.

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Explain what you mean by "other type's of people" please "/

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Originally Posted by Seduce

I don't agree with racism nor do I think it's accepted or acceptable, but it's like social drinkers? Most people have some banter with some friends when it's goin' really. As i've said, it only seems as if white's are getting persecuted for racism when it's far from JUST whites?

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Actually if you read this thread most of the people are commenting on asian people mainly, I am just showing them that white people aren't exactly 'angels'.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

I just totally agree with what you have said. The other night some idiots
were outside the Kebab place we go to with a megaphone shouting racist chants. They are really nice people just earning a living like anybody else.

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Exactly, what does that acheive? Do they think they're big and hard because of it? Lack of intelligence really.

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Originally Posted by Seduce

I understand what you mean Bef, you don't hate them you hate their culture that they stand for, when they should adapt to our countrie's law's and culture's?

I dislike cultures and minorities that come and 'invade' our country and disrespect it, and don't adapt? If we go visit a mosque say in isreal, we have to remove our shoes and women cover up. But when say pakistani's come to our country they don't adapt for us?

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Actually if you think about anyone that you know who has emigrated/'invaded[as you blunty put it "/] say to Spain or America for instance where alot of British people emigrate to. Do they suddenly become the same religion as the Spanish people? No they don't and that is exactly what the immigrants are doing. Would British people who emigrate adapt to cultures of a different country? I'm damn sure they wouldn't as they have been brought up with tradition and wouldn't do that "/ So see it from a British perspective when you start stereotyping.

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Originally Posted by delicious

And Craig wth, you make a thread asking for peoples honest opinions, then practically tell them their opinions are wrong?
You should accept that people have differemt views on things.

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I ask for their opinions fair enough, but then I compare it to my opinion and let them see a different perspective which they often don't do, thinking that their ethnicity is perfect and don't do crime etc "/

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Originally Posted by Xander

Yes they are people but thats like saying 'Why not accept murders for who they are' because some racists take it as far as killing people of a different race.

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But thats not hypocritical. Everyone says "those stupid/mean/idiotic racists shouldnt judge, and accept people for who they are", but isnt calling them idiotic and stupid judging?

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Originally Posted by RedStratocas

But thats not hypocritical. Everyone says "those stupid/mean/idiotic racists shouldnt judge, and accept people for who they are", but isnt calling them idiotic and stupid judging?

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Well I personally just say "Those racists shouldn't judge", I don't tend to call them idiots or whatever when they could be pretty smart, even if what they are saying isn't smart:P

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Originally Posted by Xander

Well I personally just say "Those racists shouldn't judge", I don't tend to call them idiots or whatever when they could be pretty smart, even if what they are saying isn't smart:P

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Indeed, but if you look through the pages, everyone is saying "racists are disgusting"... isnt that defeating the purpose? Youre right though.

And by the way, Im just argueing the stuff for the sake of arguement. Not because I really have a strong oppinion about it

But arnt they saying racists are disgusting at their actions, not at them as a person?

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Originally Posted by <x3!

But arnt they saying racists are disgusting at their actions, not at them as a person?

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Yes, but thats still judging, still hypocritical. Trust me, Im not defending racism, but actions are different than words. Its like me saying I hate dogs, but that should be acceptable, but if I killed dogs, that shouldnt be.

Most racists dont act upon it these days.

Im coloured. And I Hate Racism...
People Makign Jokes About Religion, Skin Colour Or Anything Really ****ess Me Off

But What ****ess Me Off More, Is When Someone Says Something Obvious And Says Im Coloured ( In a not a nasty way ) and some noob ( my "friend" keiran possibly ) says something silly like dont be racist.. When it wasnt... I find that more annoying. maybe It Just Me!

But In all i don;t think Racism Is A Problem Where i live. Except when i hear people makign fun of the Polish Immagrants That Moved Nearby... Who Cares If Their Polish! Their PEOPLE!

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Originally Posted by Jargit

Im coloured. And I Hate Racism...
People Makign Jokes About Religion, Skin Colour Or Anything Really ****ess Me Off

But What ****ess Me Off More, Is When Someone Says Something Obvious And Says Im Coloured ( In a not a nasty way ) and some noob ( my "friend" keiran possibly ) says something silly like dont be racist.. When it wasnt... I find that more annoying. maybe It Just Me!

But In all i don;t think Racism Is A Problem Where i live. Except when i hear people makign fun of the Polish Immagrants That Moved Nearby... Who Cares If Their Polish! Their PEOPLE!

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I agree with all of that. Especially when someone says dont be racist when that person was either joking around or didnt mean to. Its like shut up.

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Originally Posted by Jargit

Im coloured. And I Hate Racism...
People Makign Jokes About Religion, Skin Colour Or Anything Really ****ess Me Off

But What ****ess Me Off More, Is When Someone Says Something Obvious And Says Im Coloured ( In a not a nasty way ) and some noob ( my "friend" keiran possibly ) says something silly like dont be racist.. When it wasnt... I find that more annoying. maybe It Just Me!

But In all i don;t think Racism Is A Problem Where i live. Except when i hear people makign fun of the Polish Immagrants That Moved Nearby... Who Cares If Their Polish! Their PEOPLE!

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I make a few politically correct jokes. Like whenever someone says 'black'--I mean black for describing anything, like a book--I stop them and say "No! African American".

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Originally Posted by RedStratocas

I make a few politically correct jokes. Like whenever someone says 'black'--I mean black for describing anything, like a book--I stop them and say "No! African American".

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Reminds me of a family guy quote.

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Originally Posted by Family Guy

Brian: Uh, Peter according to this you're not a genius. In fact you're mentally handy capped.
Peter: Oh yeah? Well would a mentally handy capped guy have hired a bulldozer with a drunk driver to level half of his house in celebration of his fantastic test results?
Brian: Uh, maybe.
Peter: Oh.



Peter: Don't say mentally handy capped Chris, we prefer to be called little people.

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As long as racist jokes are not really hurtful they are acceptable. Just stereotypes. With stereotype jokes people should know that the joke teller doesnt really think that "ALL" blonds or Asians ect. are like that.

Edit had to substatute "handy capped" for the word which was there before.

haha at the people who said "they come to take our benefits"
Well the UK invaded loads of countries and took all their money, so I dont know what the hell you are on about.
Also I would go on about how many asians etc own businesses here and how the richest man in the UK is Indian ... but I cba.
For example ... I moved to the UK 6 years ago, my dad owns like 3 businesses here and has around 50 staff - so er, he is helping the economy, not taking benefits.

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Originally Posted by ksoz

haha at the people who said "they come to take our benefits"
Well the UK invaded loads of countries and took all their money, so I dont know what the hell you are on about.
Also I would go on about how many asians etc own businesses here and how the richest man in the UK is Indian ... but I cba.
For example ... I moved to the UK 6 years ago, my dad owns like 3 businesses here and has around 50 staff - so er, he is helping the economy, not taking benefits.

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Exactly some of my points Saurav:) Tis Craig btw!